00:17:06 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> `Someone needs to writo up some grammer rules`
00:18:05 <hbergeron> I think we all do quite well
00:18:22 <hbergeron> I enjoy plowsof's writing style 
00:18:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> My typing us l33t
00:18:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I make sure to smash tgecwring key at least once
00:19:37 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> "tgecwring" ???
00:19:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> The wrong*
00:20:20 <hbergeron> except for those matrix people that edit multiple times and spam IRC
00:20:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> The wrong* sorry
00:20:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I make sure to smash the wrong key at least once
00:20:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> like this
00:22:18 <hbergeron> ofrn spams anyway, imagine if he edited  :D
00:23:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> i never knew what a parent was either
00:23:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (this spam is for you, nioc) 👾
00:27:21 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Nioc get's his own spam 😬
00:27:21 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> why don't I ever get spam dedicated to me 😢
00:27:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I talk to myself more than enough at home.
00:28:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (Ok, no more encores. Im going to get band)
01:31:05 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:nokyc.im> Monero Observer is back! https://monero.observer/monero-observer-is-back/
02:05:57 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:nokyc.im> ICYMI. Revuo's XMPP MUC address changed. Join us, bring your friends. xmpp:revuo⊙cmc?join
05:11:43 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> About my ccs proposal (https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/408) . I was thinking of ways to make it less "trust me bro". How about at the end of each month I clone both repos (the mirror and the main GitHub one) do a sha256sum , ask a "trusted" member of the community to do the same and then that member can sign it with PGP. I will then upload <clipped message>
05:11:43 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> it to a repo on the site.
05:13:15 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> It isn't trust in the regard of the integrity. That can be solved by comparing it with the current repository, there is no need for that process.
05:13:15 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> It is trust in the regard that you will keep it up. And remember, git is decentralized by nature. There really isn't a use to having another place where it is hosted. Wownero already has had a mirror for us for a while.
05:13:22 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> It isn't trust in the regard of the integrity. That can be solved by comparing it with the current repository individually, there is no need for that process.
05:13:22 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> It is trust in the regard that you will keep it up. And remember, git is decentralized by nature. There really isn't a use to having another place where it is hosted. Wownero already has had a mirror for us for a while.
05:13:58 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> If I don't keep it up there's no payout. Wownero mirror isn't on tot
05:14:03 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Tor
05:14:25 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> >git is decentralized by nature. There really isn't a use to having another place where it is hosted
05:17:09 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> The repo is still hosted on a site controlled by Microsoft tho. I do understand that "everyone" has a copy and stuff. But forcing people to go through a proprietary site to use a privacy project isn't the best look. This does not only have to act as a mirror but as a way for people to access the code via tor
05:19:01 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> I would also like to research and see if there is any way or if it is already included, that people can push to the gitea mirror and that is then reflected to the repo on github
05:19:57 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Your CCS gives me an idea, I'll just host a mirror and make it available over tor
05:20:00 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I'll do that later
05:20:19 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I'm really not sure if its worth a CCS, it just seems like a basic effort IMO
05:20:30 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Your CCS gives me an idea, I'll just host a mirror and make it available over tor myself
05:22:00 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> I will keep on hosting the mirror even if the CCS isn't funded. Just thought it would be better than begging for donations. Electricity ain't free
05:23:39 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> 🤷
05:48:27 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> http://gitea.recanman7nly4wwc5f2t2h55jnxsr7wo664o3lsydngwetvrguz4esid.onion/monero-project/monero
05:48:41 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Here's a mirror. I'll host it for as long as I know what Monero is
05:49:08 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> And free gitea server for anyone who wants to make a user there I guess. Registrations are open.
05:57:33 <dukenukem> Nice vanity address. 8 characters.
05:58:10 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Yes, it took me around 48 hours to generate on sixteen cores. I got maybe four of them, then chose the one I liked
05:58:18 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Yes, it took me around 24 hours to generate a few on sixteen cores. I got maybe four of them, then chose the one I liked
05:58:33 <dukenukem> Damn, sweet deal.
05:58:56 <dukenukem> Quite a resume for a self-taught computer scientist. Congrats.
05:59:46 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Thank you very much. You're probably the first to look at it. I need to update it with a certification I got last week
06:00:52 <dukenukem> CompTIA A+? :D
06:01:02 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Sounds good. I posted a comment: https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/408#note_22525
06:01:10 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Yes dukenukem
06:01:28 <dukenukem> Congratulations once again. CCNA would be a fantastic addition.
06:01:56 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Started studying for it yesterday. I'm testing for RHCSA in a month 😄
06:02:08 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I studied much less for RHCSA because I already have a lot of experience with gnu/linux stuff
06:53:30 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Yo how tf do you get a subdomain on tor?
07:07:26 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> monerujo on android routes all traffic over tor but if you use something like XMRWallet in TAILS it's the same, right?
07:10:35 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> monerujo on android routes all traffic over tor but if you use something like XMRWallet(wallet website) in TAILS it's the same, right?
08:26:59 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Tails routes everything via tor by default
10:01:56 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> bridgerton you here
10:02:13 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> great, only killed my monero node
10:10:33 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> node is back.
10:11:14 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> does it matter whether you use a remote node for monero if you use tails for monero transactions
10:11:19 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> so if you use tails to trade with monero?
10:11:39 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> with tails you should use a remote node over tor
10:11:43 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> nodes.cakewallet.com
10:12:14 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> nodes.monero.com
10:12:38 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> actually the site doesnt have tor nodes
10:12:50 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> so you don't need to setup your own node right OK. that's less of a hassle
10:13:06 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> and is there software without the need for persistent storage
10:13:28 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> you dont need to but running your own node is preferable
10:13:29 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> you can download featherwallet
10:13:29 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> featherwallet.org
10:13:51 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> should have quality tor nodes by default
10:14:42 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> why dont you want consistent storage? i think its very practical
10:14:54 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> why dont you want persistent storage? i think its very practical
10:15:30 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> well is it easier deanonymize someone with a remote node if you use tails? I'm afraid someone installs spyware on the storage and my operation is compromised
10:16:16 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> if you dont download anything you cant get spyware
10:16:43 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> set up persistent storage, download featherwallet, verify the download, never download anything else
10:26:09 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> so I found out about xmrwallet.com it's in browser. if you use a new wallet with every transaction I guess that should be safe over the tor network and no need for persistent storage. not sure though. i'm a laymen
10:26:15 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> man'
10:26:28 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> so I found out about xmrwallet.com it's in browser. if you use a new wallet with every transaction I guess that should be safe over the tor network and no need for persistent storage. not sure though. i'm a layman
10:27:41 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> thats a scam
10:27:41 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> dont use it
10:28:22 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> also
10:28:29 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> dont use a webwallet for tor use lmao
10:28:44 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> web wallets can see your transactions
10:29:35 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> so maybe I can create a persistent storage that's exactly the size of the feather wallet?
10:29:45 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> i doubt it
10:30:02 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> malware can be tiny
10:30:04 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> just dont install anything after getting feather
10:30:38 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> you could also just use the monero.com wallet on your phone
10:30:54 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> then you dont need persistent storage
10:32:29 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> ok thank you I will think about it. I was thinking about using monerujo with orbot on a new phone but then there is storage on a phone and I don't trust storage xD
10:34:36 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> i guess you dont need persistent storage on tails?
10:34:49 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> but youd have to always re-scan your wallet
10:34:57 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> and reinstall feather
11:05:29 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> how do you mean?
12:53:45 <m-relay> <w​oodser:monero.social> announcing full TypeScript support in the software library formerly known as monero-javascript, and henceforth known as monero-ts: https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/monero-ts :)
12:56:18 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> rottenwheel: thanks for sharing that escapethe3ra is back / welcome back!
12:57:34 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> woodser: wow great work! please accept this small token of appreciation for the hard work spanning over months https://bounties.monero.social/posts/80/3-500m-typescript-support-of-monero-javascript-library
12:58:07 <m-relay> <w​oodser:monero.social> sweet! :)
14:37:04 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I sincerely thank you very much. I use monero-<del>js</del>ts very frequently
14:37:15 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I sincerely thank you very much. I use monero-ts very frequently
14:41:07 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> If you are hosting a hidden service and have it point to a reverse proxy, just use subdomains normally
14:41:08 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> ```
14:41:08 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> server {
14:41:09 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com>     listen 80;
14:41:09 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com>     server_name subdomain.somethingsomething.onion;
14:41:10 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> }
14:41:10 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> ```
14:41:19 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> If you are hosting a hidden service and have it point to a reverse proxy (below example is nginx), just use subdomains normally
14:41:19 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> ```
14:41:20 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> server {
14:41:20 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com>     listen 80;
14:41:21 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com>     server_name subdomain.somethingsomething.onion;
14:41:21 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> }
14:41:22 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> ```
14:44:38 <plowsof> recanman with the comment edit followed by multi line code paste, a huge faux pas. Meanwhile im on my best behaviour. I don't think i've just parenthesis all day 
14:44:54 <plowsof> s/just/used a
14:45:17 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Sorry, I keep forgetting about IRC
14:45:24 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> IRC users just move to matrix 😄
15:07:06 <m-relay> <z​henyapav:zhenyapav.com> TIL that's possible
15:39:02 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah
15:39:21 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> these grandpas and their old protocol
15:39:27 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> dont even have emoji reactions
15:39:35 <hbergeron> meow
15:40:28 <hbergeron> ^_^
15:41:19 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ^ cope
15:49:38 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> lol
16:37:56 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> I will use a usb stick with a write protection switch with feather because I can't find any other solution.
17:14:18 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> New MoneroOS release https://github.com/4rkal/MoneroOS/releases/tag/v0.3.7. Contains some quite cool new updates, including windows support, MoneroOcean support, P2Pool v3.7 and some additional small changes
17:17:32 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> -.- but you won't react to my marvelous problems
17:18:00 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> anonymous,secure monero transaction on the dark web
17:18:12 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> with the aid of tails
17:20:06 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Don't call it the dark web pls
17:20:31 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Sounds like your a skid
17:21:26 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Makes it sound like you're a skid
17:23:13 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Btw I'm looking for people to try the windows setup (https://github.com/4rkal/MoneroOS/wiki/Installation#windows) . Basically just writing the iso from windows and following the instructions.
20:25:55 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Makes them look like a haxxor
20:44:27 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok
20:44:28 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok but
20:44:31 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok but they
20:44:32 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok but they will
20:44:34 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok but they will have
20:44:36 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok but they will have to
20:44:38 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok but they will have to suffer
20:44:40 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok but they will have to suffer the
20:44:44 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok but they will have to suffer the consequences
20:56:07 <m-relay> <e​scapethe3ra:matrix.org> thanks!
23:10:33 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:nokyc.im> image.png
23:10:36 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:nokyc.im> Was that really necessary?
23:23:33 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Lol
23:32:44 <m-relay> <h​anshan:monero.social> Are there any monero wallet generators that allow you to add your own entropy?
23:34:03 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Use gomuks and look like a "haxxor"