00:40:32 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> vik (Cake): can we expect Coinjoins of Samourai in cake 00:40:35 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> plus need BCH and WOW 00:42:54 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> Dan r/dark (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate ): yea Samourai do troll maxi but are also stuck with BTC 00:46:06 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> not only lightning they don't even have taproot receive function only send till now LOL 00:54:17 Bing bong 00:54:46 Will see for how long it doesn't revert back to 2020 01:11:43 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Start counter 01:19:07 Serai 07:21:18 just use Samourai. i wouldn't trust Cake implementation of anything, you dont want to lose your BTC suddenly while mixing 07:21:52 i think Stack Wallet might be integrating coinjoin, at lease they have competent devs 07:21:54 rehrarcan confirm 09:09:44 Go fuck yourself 09:17:59 Deleted my rude reply. It’s typical of the person above to take every opportunity to take a shot at cake. So predictable. With over 400,000 users and with our apps being used 50,000 times a week that says enough. Furthermore on that 50,000 times a week usage, we only get around 50 support tickets a week. So he can try to spread whatever he wants, but our users love us! 09:21:42 Good morning btw 🙏🏽 09:43:03 you never miss an oppurtinity to advertise. jesus christ youre sleaze 09:43:36 great to know that your tracking your users usage btw 09:43:42 not news to me tho 09:44:07 App Stores provide download info. Nice try to spread shit again. Moron. 09:44:19 "Furthermore on that 50,000 times a week usage," 09:44:25 those are app analystics there 09:44:48 keep spinning, those who care about privacy know how much of a snake your and cake are 09:44:52 Yep, app stores tell you how many times your app is opened. Not user info. But nice try. 09:44:53 have a good day 09:45:16 Everyone sees what you’re doing here. 09:45:30 everyone knows what cakes doing 09:45:45 Thanks for the well wishes on the good day. 09:45:48 You too. 09:45:51 you can try to bribe aka "sponsor" all you want, but youre obvious as fuck 09:46:08 those who know, know 09:46:52 You’re right. Our record speaks for itself. Go ahead and have the last word. 09:47:06 yes, it clearly does lmao 09:47:14 funny you think thats a good thing 09:47:59 We will enjoy our users and monthly growth for 5.5 straight years. You can keep being miserable. 09:48:40 your wallet is the butt of all jokes in privacy/monero community 09:48:48 enjoy your cucked users 09:49:38 Nice try again. 09:49:44 facts 09:49:48 feel free to ignore reality 09:49:53 and pump those app store numbers 09:49:54 Keep going. No one believes you. 09:49:56 cringe as fuck 09:50:07 Keep going. 09:50:10 Done yet? 09:50:11 hahahaha theres no need for belief. its fact. 09:50:21 Done? 09:50:28 Keep going. 09:50:49 yeah im done, wouldnt want to push you to another adult temper tantrum like last time 09:51:20 You’re the only one having a temper tantrum and craps his pants when the word cake comes up. 09:51:36 Yes keep going. 09:51:43 I know you have more 09:51:55 Fucking moron. 09:52:04 fucking snake 09:52:13 r4v3r23 does not like cake and im sure the feeling is mutual, we have established this, lets move on 09:52:18 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> back to the corners 09:53:41 this rant was sponsored by Cake Wallet(tm) 09:54:21 Only one ranting was you. I was replying to your silly post. 10:00:17 People that don’t contribute to anything nor build anything seem to be loudest critics of the people that actually do. The person above is the perfect example. 10:06:15 I guess we all have our differences but it's often important to find best in ourselves 10:07:08 this is why we have aliens/UFO's - a common enemy - to unite us all 10:11:19 i am trying to write another positive sentence, but it's not working soo here is the enemy 10:11:56 Chainalysis CEO might face jail time for defrauding investors 10:12:12 apparently their software is shit 10:15:25 https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.232431/gov.uscourts.dcd.232431.159.1.pdf 10:15:36 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> bitcoin fog case can confirm 10:16:00 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> i think artic is involed with that case 10:16:10 Ciphertrace in 41 page expert report 10:17:13 proved their software is inaccurate, not-science based 10:17:25 'guess-like' 10:18:52 there is 6 heuristics algorithms mentioned, which is really gold for someone interested in this stuff 10:20:16 followed by research papers, good stuff 10:20:29 considering they can't trace bitcoin properly 10:20:42 they are probably 10 years behind monero 10:21:02 https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/chainalysis-the-theranos-of-blockchain-forensics 10:22:18 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> artic has this theory that heard on monerotalk that the curtain will fall 10:23:03 you know nothing and your project is a disgrace to monero 10:23:34 page 12: "Advertising for Privacy is not Illegal" ciphertrace 2023 10:27:08 Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to monero 10:30:18 defense is asking for their source-code to be reviewed, it would be interesting to see the outcome 10:30:23 https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/chainalysis-denounces-bitcoin-core-contributor-as-unqualified 10:31:31 thanks for sharing 10:35:38 Tweeted 10:41:26 Hope to see you all at our monero meetup on Nov 2 in Chicago! With Justin Berman as guest speaker! 10:41:26 https://meetu.ps/e/MnvWW/6Qq7Y/i 10:44:36 Kayaba will also be there and will give a quick update on Serai as well. 10:45:21 Two of the smartest people in Monero in one room! 10:49:49 …And one of the dumbest people (me) in Monero will be there to balance out the smartness. 10:51:17 MajesticBank: Very interesting, good find 10:53:25 I wanted to post in research-lab but I guess some of you also read in here 10:55:07 it's interesting if some of this stuff can be used to fortify monero future development 11:18:06 another monero scam coin fork created, spotted by tevador to have 1 million pre-mine 11:18:10 #define NUM_MIXIN 15 11:18:11 #define PRE_MINED_COINS 1000000 * COIN 11:18:45 listed on nonkyc.io after 3 weeks of existence ( red flag ) 12:08:19 BusyBoredom: does acceptxmr spin up an api server or is it only a library? 12:10:31 Guess only a library 12:18:03 selsta has put up the release notes PR to -site https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2195 thank you! if anyone wants a sneak peak before the files are pushed/live browse the preview of -core here: https://deploy-preview-2195--barolo-time-757cf9.netlify.app/2023/10/07/monero-0.18.3.1-released and of the GUI here: https://deploy-preview-2195--barolo-time-757cf9.netlify 12:18:03 .app/2023/10/07/monero-gui-0.18.3.1-released 12:21:06 Google Play has removed our Monero.com app due to supposedly violating their "Repetitive Content" policy. They say it is too close to Cake Wallet. Ridiculous! (well it is a stripped down Cake wallet) 12:21:06 So in the meantime, you can download the apk directly from our site or get it on Fdroid. 12:21:06 https://monero.com/wallets 12:40:31 not gonna change a lot tbh, most monero maximalist hate google play 12:41:08 but the wasn't the split caused by zcash funding ? There is no zcash support atm, did i miss something 12:41:18 but wasn't the split caused by zcash funding ? There is no zcash support atm, did i miss something 12:46:38 Yeah we have no zcash in cake. We canceled the grant and all that. 12:47:30 Still we wanted to give the community a monero only wallet. I guess which they can still get as apk or fdroid. 12:53:29 i wonder if this "ruling" will effect Stack duo 12:58:04 Don't know. I'm thinking what we can change in Monero.com to be different from Cake other than stripping out the other assets. 12:58:42 add monero-lws support to monero dot com wallet and sue goggle ! 12:59:11 plowsof "This release was the direct result of 12 who worked" 12 people? 12:59:35 disciples 13:00:38 lol 13:04:54 probably selected too much when changing the number lol 13:06:13 fixed it 13:13:15 Hey guys, why are you using IRC when there are so many more modern technologies available? 13:14:37 it works? 13:16:51 We have over 12,000 people on the waitlist for our debit/credit card for crypto site http://cakepay.com. We are approving people daily so please keep a lookout in your inbox. 13:17:48 We have over 12,000 people on the waitlist for our debit/gift card for crypto site http://cakepay.com. We are approving people daily so please keep a lookout in your inbox. 13:33:06 We have over 12,000 people on the waitlist for our debit/gift card for Monero and other crypto site http://cakepay.com. We are approving people daily so please keep a lookout in your inbox. 13:52:04 Do those cards (visa and mastercard) work just in the US or Europe too? E commerce only or shop too? 13:53:54 Unlike matrix 13:58:07 Why not XMMP? 14:44:31 Siren: yep only a library for now, but a standalone acceptxmr server is WIP 15:10:19 We are live! https://x.com/monerotopia/status/1710447507937825010?s=46 16:01:17 about the cake pay cards - currently we only have cards denominated USD, but they may still work in the EU 16:38:39 i can confirm they work with google play and amazon 16:38:40 a little tricky for amazon though 16:39:33 for example if you want to add 5$ visa to amazon you have to basically set a euro amount that is as close to 5$ as possible 16:40:22 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/bVtzknmeIYdTNOtmvHGrvqNr 18:07:23 Have you used the visa or mastercard one? You have it used in a Google pay wallet and used in a shop or just online? 18:07:48 Ok this kind of stuff the word 'may' is not enough, unfortunately 21:38:14 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: uh what happened while i was away ? will Serai have both monero wownero bitcoin coinjoin litecoin coinjoin Mweb grin beam bitcoin cash ? 21:38:52 When were you away 👀 21:39:22 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> r4v3r23: yea samourai and stack wallet is good too so is cake best to have privacy everywhere 21:40:17 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> vik (Cake): will we get wownero bitcoin cash bitcoin coinjoin of samourai and litecoin Mweb grin beam ? 21:40:40 serai.exchange 21:41:06 ``` 21:41:06 We’ve partnered with Cake Wallet to enable users to provide liquidity and perform swaps. 21:41:06 ``` 21:41:46 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> still would be cool to have shielded zcash too 21:41:46 What wallets work with Serai? 21:41:47 We’ve partnered with Cake Wallet to enable users to provide liquidity and perform swaps. 21:41:50 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: oh cool 21:42:03 What for. Zcash is broken 21:42:24 i mean.. its too heavy to use shielded 21:42:58 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> did they not fix it with ywallet warp sync 21:42:58 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> warp sync 2 21:43:09 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> and DAG sync 21:43:27 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> + fee changes with ZIP 21:45:05 https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/size-zec.html#3y 21:45:28 Yeah 21:45:35 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> is elite wallet legit ? 21:45:45 define legit 21:45:49 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> community member or fed bois ? 21:45:55 Does it work? Yes 21:46:01 Majesticbank 21:46:13 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> its the only one with wownero lol 21:46:20 No 21:46:25 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> 🥲🤣😂😅 21:46:28 Stavk wallet has wow 21:46:36 Stack* wallet 21:47:13 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> yea that too stack and wonerujo 21:47:32 Wonerujo doesnt work anymore 21:47:35 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> but man cake is slick 21:47:48 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> same is samourai 21:47:59 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> good color choice lol 21:48:15 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> 🤣😂😅🥲 21:48:18 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> RIP 21:48:24 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> what happen 21:48:34 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> what did i miss on wownero lol 21:48:36 Hasnt been updated 21:48:44 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> RIP then 21:48:55 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> yea need a cake wownero wallet 21:49:21 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> 👍️🫡 21:49:27 Cake has a few problems/bugs of its own these days 21:49:48 Mysu and anonero are good to try as well 21:50:08 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> wait did they have wownero and monero both ? 21:50:20 Nope. Monero only 21:50:54 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> i heard long ago chum wallet or what it was got abandoned 21:51:11 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> we need more wallets LOL 21:51:29 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> 😅 21:51:41 We need lws 21:51:54 + lws wallets 21:52:31 .. or molly / sdk 21:53:03 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: yea size increase of zcash shielded pool 21:53:04 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> spam attack 21:53:04 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> they called it sand blasting attack 21:53:05 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> fee was too low 1000 sats 21:53:05 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> now its 10000 sats and higher 21:53:11 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> + wrap sync saved all their wallet 21:53:47 someone said they want to start working on the monero-lws android library https://bounties.monero.social/posts/90/6-200m-implement-monero-light-wallet-server-client-library-for-android-native 21:54:14 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> and new wrap sync 2 and DAG sync they are bringing 21:54:21 Need wallets 21:54:33 to be fair , they may have just started an empty project and put donation links on that github repo 21:54:34 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> yea 21:54:50 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> need more wallets 21:55:37 Server is useless without wallets. I dont trust Mymonero anymore 21:56:31 (mymonero is the only lws capable wallet) 21:56:39 who cares what you trust or don't? 21:56:55 Mymonero leaks view keys 21:57:02 Rotten 21:57:10 got a client done and coming... 21:57:11 Use yur real acct 21:57:13 Lol 21:57:21 Ty endogenic 21:58:03 endogenic: we've been hearing about "loads of code coming" for a year or three. 21:58:30 trivia: what comes first? endogenic's groundbreaking terabytes of code or seraphis? 22:00:52 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> thats what she said 22:01:54 the oscar 22:02:00 Jk 22:02:13 Dont shoot(ban) me 22:04:55 tipxmr wen 22:04:57 Solopt 22:05:30 SeedSigner (we could play CCS top trumps) 22:05:39 since were here. Should we have a 30min meeting some day about the purgatory ccs? 22:05:53 Or, ones in limbo 22:07:25 Were not a bank acct. Completed ccs should he collected wherever the person is availabl 22:07:48 Exampke, dougs ccs. Is it complete? Whats the status? 22:07:52 Monerotopia 22:08:51 chowbungaman: any plans on moving forward with your open CCS (payouts due?) 22:08:59 Outreach ccs, workgroup dead, jet fund it 22:09:27 it would be like storage wars where we bid on a mystery abandoned proposal 22:09:41 Then the other 237 of them with 66% completion 22:10:23 what the CCS shows is not necessarily accurate 22:10:26 ^ part of the reason i dont mind retroactive proposals like kayas (maybe with more input). 22:10:26 its not like molly 22:10:51 Where there isnt the slightest hint of monero integration yet 22:11:03 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> lol 22:11:32 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> wish their was a rust i2p 22:12:04 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> since zcash will fund the onion rust anyway 22:12:08 all those that love rust will love my car 22:12:09 If you say rust 3x, kaya will come 22:12:21 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> since zcash will fund the tor onion rust implementation anyway 22:12:38 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> rust rust rust rust 22:12:40 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> here said x4 times 22:12:46 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> 😅 22:12:55 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> sounds like candy man 22:12:58 Have me anxiety when i read that 22:13:04 Gave* 22:13:11 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> you have to say rust 3X in the mirror in a dark room 22:13:26 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> lol 22:15:15 :'( 22:15:59 Kaya has 8 weeks to raise 310 xmr. 22:16:45 What round/week do you think the money will be raised? Any bets? 22:17:56 Whoever guesses the closest wins 0.05xmr 22:21:23 ``` 22:21:23 Resolution 22:21:24 If this proposal is not funded within two months, it will be closed regardless of status. All raised funds will be directed towards the already completed milestones, even if only partially funded. Whatever amount raised will close this CCS, and be considered as complete funding for these milestones. 22:21:24 ``` 22:21:25 plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: merges? 22:22:12 soon(tm) - there's a line of people waiting patiently for payouts also 22:22:57 Do they need wrenches? 22:24:44 they need our thoughts and prayers 🙏 22:25:36 "f u plowsof. I need my money!" 22:25:36 someone just dm'd me 22:25:41 (jk) 22:25:54 Lmao 22:26:20 Imagine payday, and your boss says "heres some thoughts and prayers" 22:26:20 im crying 22:27:33 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> run subscription wallet and auto pay 22:27:48 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> and upgrade to business version 22:29:31 when things get rushed, mistakes happen, luigi is love, luigi is life 22:29:37 Nono. Prayer is more fun 😂. Im going to uae that one irl 22:29:49 He also lives on a boat 22:32:46 btw that lws proposal is unnecessary. there most certainly is code for android 22:33:58 thanks for taking a look endogenic hm 22:34:16 better to wait for my code 22:34:20 it's finished 22:34:40 i just have to do the write up and fix some bugs in something unrelated 22:34:52 the reason is, my code solves many problems 22:35:02 aside from saving the community some money 22:36:42 We'll see it by 2030 hopefully. 22:38:17 (we're talking about this https://bounties.monero.social/posts/90) if your code solves the bounty or goes above and beyond endogenic then the bounty can also be updated to show 2 people are working on it . the other gave a turnaround time of ~1 year and has 'just' started,, could save them some wasted time if you get it done soon(tm) 22:38:36 :( dukenukem 22:38:51 ya my code is vastly improved 22:38:59 and finished and highly tested 22:39:14 ZzZzZzZ 22:39:50 im sure you are excited about jeffro256 / tevadors 'dynamic viewtags' - bringing near perfect* privacy to monero-lws users 22:40:13 we're back with the forward slashes, quotation marks and parentheses! it only lasted one day! 22:40:54 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> \o/ 22:41:08 :D its the weekend, finally some freedom! 22:43:07 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> lol 22:44:22 protect yourselves against "alt accusations" - and consider misusing parenthesis on one of your alts so people can't confuse them 22:50:01 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> 🤣 23:00:33 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> anti finger printing 23:00:39 But 23:00:56 We said the same thing earlier. 23:00:56 rip plowsof / ofrnsockpuppet 23:03:15 Also, make sure one acct uses autocapitalization and no autocorrect 23:07:15 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> found me! 23:08:07 <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> lol 23:12:55 https://monero.observer/meeting-log-summary-monero-research-lab-meeting-4-october-2023/ 23:14:01 Looks good, these summaries are very helpful to people who don't attend the meetings but don't want to scroll through the logs 23:14:21 Will this be done for other workgroups or just research-lab? 23:16:16 Mostly MRL but sometimes I also do Seraphis, Community, and Dev. 23:16:43 https://monero.observer/tag/logs/ & https://monero.observer/archive/#logs 23:48:02 file ima_eba6859.jpeg too big to download (1687864 > allowed size: 1000000) 23:48:02 ima_eba6859.jpeg 23:48:11 Out with the wifey for a formal evening 23:52:27 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> nice Rolls Royce