01:24:49 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> vik (Cake): so are we getting anything new
01:25:39 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> samourai stealth mode looks epic can it be done in flutter
01:26:45 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> or is it a java thing only
01:28:30 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> and what happen with r4v3r23 looks like no fan of cake ?
01:28:40 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> and what did i miss again ?
01:39:31 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> We haven’t looked into it yet.
01:39:46 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> It’s bizarre.  But whatever.
01:39:56 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> It’s bizarre. But whatever. 🙏🏽
01:40:16 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> We haven’t looked into it yet.  What is it?
01:42:39 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> Ah stealth mode.  Just looked it up.  Funny thing, before Cake, we had built an email client that you could hide behind a calculator screen. I guess we can do that again for cake.
01:43:05 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> Ah stealth mode. Just looked it up. Funny thing, before Cake, we had built an email client app that you could hide behind a calculator screen. I guess we can do that again for cake.
01:52:25 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> vik (Cake): https://twitter.com/SamouraiWallet/status/1608080485430722560?cxt=HHwWgICwhc-rhtEsAAAA
01:53:16 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> https://samouraiwallet.com/stealth
01:54:17 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> cool man very cool
01:54:27 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> 👍️👍️👍️👍️
01:54:44 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> it will be epic monero stealth mode
01:55:48 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> last we need a decoy dummy wallet inside a dummy wallet and it will be perfect maybe for the future
01:55:54 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> 😁😁😁😁
02:10:25 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> Right.  I was just thinking of the dummy wallet. 😂
03:10:58 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> eh? isn't this supposed to be a matrix space
03:41:13 <m-relay> <c​openhagen_bram:matrix.org> you're looking for #monerospace:monero.social
04:36:23 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> thankuu
07:41:26 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> i know ANONERO and Mysu are already planning on sleath mode
07:42:05 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> ANONERO already has decoy wallets on the radar
07:43:18 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> donate to those project if you want to see proper implementation of privacy featurres
07:43:32 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> they dont have CEOs / corporate funding (thank fuck)
08:27:16 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> i know ANONERO and Mysu are planning on sleath mode
08:52:30 <dukenukem> don't say ANONERO, say my wallet!
09:00:16 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> who is the CEO of ANONERO?
09:02:35 <dukenukem> sech1: r4v3r23, doh. it's obvious.
09:02:51 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> CEO LMAO
09:03:15 <dukenukem> funny how he speaks about anonero in third person like he's not behind the project.
09:03:31 <dukenukem> just read this shit lol https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/16yrw44/anonero_airgapped_transactions_hardware_wallet/
09:03:39 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> i do UI/UX design but its not "my" wallet
09:04:00 <dukenukem> nobody can tell w1ck3dAF is r4v3r23
09:04:03 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> this would fall under the 'please disclose involvement' rule thingy
09:04:44 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> its not a secret that im involved, idk what the conspiracy is
09:05:12 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> i dont code i jsut help out with research/ux stuff
09:05:19 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> is there an about page on the anonero website?
09:05:27 <dukenukem> don't forget the heckling!
09:05:28 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> nope just the code
09:05:46 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> thats in a personal capacity :)
09:06:01 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> nope just the code - its a project, not a company
09:06:02 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> you ave to attatch your persona to the project
09:06:11 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> i dont have to do shit
09:06:18 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> the app speaks for itself
09:06:21 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> then we will do it for you
09:06:23 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> ban me from community if you want
09:06:38 <dukenukem> you're such a lovely character!
09:06:39 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> its no secret
09:06:51 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> no reason to ban, just make it known
09:06:51 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> :)
09:07:26 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> its already known
09:07:27 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> otherwise you are tommy form all ark
09:08:06 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> a bunch of us ex-shruum wallet users got together to fund a new project which became anonero
09:08:26 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> a new user reading those reddit posts wouldnt know. and it would appear like an endorsement from an un-involved third party (which holds more weight)
09:08:39 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> i voluntaried to design UI/UX and we got couple devs who like monero to help out
09:08:52 <dukenukem> based bri'ish comment.
09:09:10 <dukenukem> must be the monday biscuit!
09:11:10 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> not my posts. i was surprised to see it, most of our users hate reddit
09:11:46 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> gotta love the sock pupper accustations that get thrown around here all the time tho
09:11:49 <dukenukem> lol
09:12:04 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> 2 people hold same opinon OMG THEYRE THE SAME PERSON
09:12:26 <dukenukem> cynicism is a croatian feature. TIL
09:13:13 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> w1ck3dAF is not r4v3r23?
09:13:22 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> no
09:13:35 <dukenukem> one is the left hand and the other is the right hand. not the same
09:13:45 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> and this is a funny time to start caring about "conflicts of interest"
09:14:37 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> plus that post isnt an advert or endorsement - its just a user experience lmao read the fucking thing
09:15:53 <dukenukem> plowsof https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/tkoned/feedback_requested_would_you_like_the_monero_moon/i22u596/
09:16:36 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> now i know how ofrnxmrfeels lmao
09:16:50 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> a lot of our users hate cake, reddit, twitter, monero community drama
09:16:53 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> sue us
09:18:38 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> my involvement in anonero hasnt been a secret - ive spoken to plenty of devs and community members about it
09:21:52 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Btw you can also access the archive via cli with `torify ssh iji2hhxnh4jfyx6q2wenr7bo2p2jmsmk7dzu5pvh2s2gupud472mihad.onion`
09:22:25 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> It shows a pretty cool git dashboard via soft-serve
09:23:48 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> so what's a good mixin level then
09:24:32 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> i'm currently reading some explanations concering how monero works
09:24:41 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> what ever value is forced on us https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20231008#c287566
09:24:48 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> https://www.monero.how/how-does-monero-work-details-in-plain-english
09:26:04 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> 4rkal: looks really nice
09:26:45 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Thanks !
09:26:59 <m-relay> <a​nxietyinducing:matrix.org> so it's 16 with the newest release?
09:29:37 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> since last hardfork v.018
09:29:42 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> since last hardfork v0.18
09:29:53 <nioc> 16 is the ring size, the term mixin is no longer used 
09:30:56 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> you can't choose ring size (you used to be able to select mixin amounts)
09:36:34 <dukenukem> plowsof - https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/16f6dx7/cake_monerocom_coin_control_tests_and_issues/k0l0vi8/ lol
09:38:10 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> i always enjoy rbrunner7 s comments/observations
09:40:49 <dukenukem> https://monero.town/u/ANONERO | https://old.reddit.com/user/w1ck3dAF | https://github.com/snex | https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/679 and r4v3r23 are definitely not the same person!
09:41:01 <dukenukem> Now I know what ofrnxmr feels!
09:41:37 <dukenukem> Tails of trying to hide the sun with one finger.
09:46:35 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> lets try to bring this full circle and dish out some compliments. the CCS sponsored an air-gapped Monero wallet called MoneroSigner. the repo following progress is not .. showing much progress since >5 months (https://github.com/Monero-HackerIndustrial/MoneroSigner-Project-Tracking/issues/1). The CEO / head of operations and UI/UX / outreach officer for ANONERO walletr4v3r23 (jus <clipped message>
09:46:35 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> messin wit ya) has released a working solution using Android devices (something that Monerujo has not yet released with SIdeKick) so we are thankful
09:47:22 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> you can thank the team
09:48:20 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Pretty sad to see the seedsigner ccs being abandoned
09:48:39 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> is it? some one shared a photo of it wokring this weekend
09:49:27 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Maybe it was seedsigner for bitcoin? Idk the repo doesn't have any commits lately
09:52:49 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> someone on twitter building the physical seedsigners said it would be two more weeks™
09:55:02 <m-relay> <system> file clipboard.png too big to download (4168395 > allowed size: 1000000)
09:55:02 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> clipboard.png
09:55:15 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> thats the pic - idk if its monero or bitcoin
09:55:38 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> @someone is it Monero or Bitcoin?
09:56:10 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> I think it's monerotimes casing or something
09:58:34 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Holy fuck, my fundraiser is fully funded.
09:58:48 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Thanks to the giga Chads who donated
09:58:48 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> https://nitter.net/MoneroSigner
09:59:31 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> no new updates
10:00:13 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Pico will EOL soon
10:00:16 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Pico will be EOL soon
10:01:07 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> in this case , retroactive funding would have saved us
10:01:24 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> did we already pay out?
10:01:25 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> cant retroactively fund something that doesnt exist
10:01:55 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we did not pay out no* i meant save us from hoping :(
10:03:19 <dukenukem> Matrix profile exists: @monero-hackerindustrial:monero.social 
10:03:27 <dukenukem> Grabbed username from proposal. https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/323
10:03:49 <dukenukem> Question is, are they active? Do they check new messages?
10:04:39 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Ping user -t
10:04:47 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> yall silly
10:04:50 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> just get a ledger
10:05:00 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> 30% off with code GONESOON
10:05:21 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> ....or just use anonero
10:05:24 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ./s
10:05:35 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> :)
10:05:48 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> from what ive heard, anonero currently doesnt work / not properly
10:05:58 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> then youve heard wrong lmao
10:06:06 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> i actually got a ledger recently
10:06:08 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> have you tried it?
10:06:10 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> the LED screen on my ledger does not work thats for sure
10:06:31 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> i literally made airgapped txs last night using it
10:06:44 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ill use it for my non-monero shenanigans
10:07:42 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> it just doesnt sit well with me entering a seedphrase into a web-frontend when those get taken over all the time
10:08:20 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> so try anonero's airgapped tx. it was made for this exact reason
11:19:40 <m-relay> <s​needlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> it's awesome to see that there are working alternatives for those projects that don't fit into ccs, congrats
11:50:50 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Hey all!
11:50:50 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Our proposal for a series of 4 animated videos about Monero's core concepts is now posted. Please give your comments and feedback on GitLab, thanks 💯!  https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/412.
12:31:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Youre welcome
12:37:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (https://twitter.com/nahuhhXMR/status/1711182644845625535)
12:46:22 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Lol
12:50:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/zuOvcQNekBBDXbUqrLJMJvEf
13:05:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> how my alts feel*
13:15:59 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Does anyone know who owns monero.social?
13:21:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> The domain itself?
13:23:20 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> I mean who controls it
13:23:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Controls the domain?
13:24:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Anyway, yes people know 1. Owns the domain 2. Manages it 3. And who controls the matrix server
13:25:28 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> infra sponsored by the general fund and/or sponsors of the project https://www.getmonero.org/community/sponsorships/
13:25:59 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> vague questions make me nervous
13:26:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ```
13:26:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Cake Wallet sponsors the "tools" server with the mailing list, GitLab, Matrix, Taiga, and Weblate.
13:26:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ```
13:27:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Dontasktoask.com
13:28:28 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Lol
13:28:45 <m-relay> <4​rkal:matrix.org> Just thought about creating a matrix account there
13:29:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Well then yes. Homeserver is in good hands
13:32:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 4rkal:  keep up posted in Monero Community Dev  about the mirror and its features, onion line, i2p availability etc
13:32:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> new* onion link*
14:50:55 <m-relay> <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> Hey guys, anyone knows any updates about monerosigner?
14:57:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ^
15:07:16 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> sunchakr: wen will Doug come for his CCS funds? currently $36k of XMR just sitting there https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/DTuman_6months_full-time_on_monero-projects.html
15:08:55 <m-relay> <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> why not tag Doug himself?
15:09:01 <m-relay> <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> chowbungaman:
15:13:52 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> comradeblin: https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20231007#c287402
15:17:51 <m-relay> <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> mybad
15:18:08 <m-relay> <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> I'll have a little chat with them anyway. I'll mention it to him
15:19:03 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> thanks!
15:19:22 <m-relay> <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> Of course!
15:43:06 <m-relay> <s​unchakr:monero.social> Hi!!! Yeah!! Sorry we have been super busy with balancing monero projects and work/life in general but we will take the time this month to officially ask for the payout. We can certainly use the payout at this point though to keep everything funded. 🙏🏽
15:45:10 <m-relay> <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> Oh, I just messaged you about the CCS on tele :D But I see you seen it the easy way. :)
17:00:11 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> its oled, and can be easily replaced
18:07:05 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004883507458.html
18:07:14 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> if anyone need one too
18:09:05 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> thanks ceetee, after your comment, i notice YT videos about it also, looks simple enough
19:10:11 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Ledger released that update yeah?
19:18:48 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Migrating my stuff to monero.social home server. Am i a cool kid now?
19:18:50 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> lol
19:20:01 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Yest
19:20:07 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Haxxor on irc tho
19:21:47 <nioc> can confirm
19:31:33 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> r4v3r23: cool man 👍️👍️
19:33:35 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> Decoy wallets stealth mode and native atomic swaps wallets are the best thing to happen
19:46:37 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> yea thanks vik (Cake) both dummy wallet and stealth mode will be epic for all Monero wallets
19:46:40 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> 👍️👍️
19:47:39 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> yea thanks vik (Cake) both decoy/dummy wallet and stealth mode will be epic for all Monero wallets
20:44:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Oi
20:45:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Is this essentially like simplex?
20:45:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Type the wrong password, shreds the OG account and restores a preconfigured fake one
20:51:42 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> maybe
20:52:39 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> pub private key setup is the way to go for all social media along with default end-to-end encryption
20:53:10 <m-relay> <0​x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> we need to get rid of emails and sms crap
21:57:56 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Start with degoogling first 🤔
22:18:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Google kicked monero.com from google play. 
22:18:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> vik (Cake):  just make sure you guys keep fdroid server up to date. Who uses google anyway, right?.... right?!
22:18:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lol