00:37:48 They said it was too similar to cake. 00:41:10 But they allow stolen foss apps 00:41:19 That steal 00:42:00 from them 00:43:27 Seriously 00:47:06 <123bob123:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/hGWBzqUvBQMmaGAllrmacaKI 00:51:03 Nioc 00:51:41 yes 00:51:42 Cat looks dangerous. I hope nioc is okay 02:22:25 <0x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> yea rust based BSD and Linux mobile OS next 02:22:33 <0x1zxq7896lp2zero:matrix.org> 😛 06:28:32 https://www.themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-62 06:34:09 Can we tell this guy to fuck off: https://www.moneroconsulting.com/beratungsleistungen/nft-blockchain 06:34:17 Like. 06:34:39 His not-even-proper company has Monero in its name 06:34:54 and his example for fungible tokens is fucking bitcoin 06:35:40 seems to be doing nothing regarding Monero, just got the name because its a somewhat known crypto 06:49:03 <123bob123:matrix.org> get the lawyers on too it. 06:49:20 <123bob123:matrix.org> trademark breach! 06:49:20 .#monero-legal 06:49:29 we actually do have the Monero trademark 06:49:57 and im sure we could actually enforce it in this case because that guy is offering NFT/Blockchain services aka same industry 06:50:17 <123bob123:matrix.org> lets ban them! 06:50:24 <123bob123:matrix.org> banhammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 06:50:39 you could reasonably assume someone is mislead by the company title into thinking this is official monero business 06:50:57 <123bob123:matrix.org> true 06:51:41 next community meeting we should do a vote 06:52:15 "should we send this guy a scary email or not" 06:52:36 we just need the ceo⊙go siren requested 06:53:58 <123bob123:matrix.org> OO 06:54:09 <123bob123:matrix.org> email fluffy 06:55:09 <123bob123:matrix.org> plz cease and desist or we send ofrn 06:57:18 we literally have a photo of this guys house 06:57:58 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/aOhwGBgYztEubWKfUyjEtcFo 06:58:01 <123bob123:matrix.org> i'll send the monero drone 06:58:14 shit like this is why i would never incorporate 06:58:15 shit like this is why i would never incorporate 06:59:30 if you cant put a virtual office or PO box as address for a czech sro im also not going to sign for the monerokon company 06:59:58 <123bob123:matrix.org> you need sign with your blood 07:00:05 <123bob123:matrix.org> you need to sign with your blood 07:00:49 <123bob123:matrix.org> was there a list of information required? 07:01:29 i believe it just said something generic 07:01:46 not specifically what typ of address is allowed or not 07:03:58 <123bob123:matrix.org> youd have to look at the legal document 07:04:21 <123bob123:matrix.org> and get monero legal department too look 07:04:58 another case for #monero-legal 07:05:10 stuff is really piling up for them 07:05:17 ``` 07:05:17 When you become a director of a Czech s.r.o, certain information becomes publicly visible. This includes: 07:05:17 Your name and role: As a director, your name and role in the company are part of the public record. This information is included in the company's articles of association and is registered with the Commercial Register gsl.org. 07:05:18 Criminal record: In accordance with Czech law, you must provide a certificate of good conduct, which is a document verifying the absence of a criminal record. This document is required to be not older than three months and must be translated into the Czech language hartmanova.eu. 07:05:18 Ultimate beneficiary information: In the Czech Republic, the registration of a company implies that the ultimate beneficiary of the legal entity will be identified and information about it will be publicly available. All persons falling within the definition of ultimate beneficiary, or having the greatest influence, are considered beneficiaries. Similarly, any person who recei 07:05:19 ves 25% or more of the profits or has influence over voting rights directly or indirectly can be considered a beneficiary gsl.org. 07:05:19 Company's activities: The company's activities are also part of the public record. This includes the business activities registered with the Trade Licensing Office gsl.org. 07:05:20 Registered office: The registered office of the company, which is a legal requirement, is also public information. The registered office should not be a temporary address only for the purpose of company registration gsl.org. 07:05:20 Please note that while this information becomes publicly visible, it does not necessarily mean that it is freely accessible to the public. Access to certain details may be restricted or require a specific request. 07:05:21 ``` 07:05:45 ^ ai says this 07:12:42 <123bob123:matrix.org> there doing a criminal record check 07:13:02 <123bob123:matrix.org> that will be full kyc 07:13:43 as long as its not published 07:13:55 <123bob123:matrix.org> dont think it would be 07:14:05 yeah im fine with that 07:14:14 <123bob123:matrix.org> but you will fail cause you use monero! 07:15:43 <123bob123:matrix.org> also looks like beneficiary are public too 07:16:07 <123bob123:matrix.org> i assume if there is a board of directors that counts as beneficiaries 07:17:10 <123bob123:matrix.org> you'll have talk to the lawyer is dealing with this 07:18:14 we just need a damn bank account 07:18:14 there wont be a borad 07:18:15 there wont be a board 07:18:48 <123bob123:matrix.org> no other people benefiting from the company or wateva? 07:22:37 i dont think so? 07:22:53 depends whats classified as benefiting 07:24:45 <123bob123:matrix.org> gaining something from it 07:25:14 <123bob123:matrix.org> you'd have to clarify if its monetary or non monetary 07:25:40 that would probably be contractually gaining something 07:25:59 like, i highly doubt you need to report volunteers getting travel reimbursed 07:26:07 then youd have to report every company you do business with 07:26:49 <123bob123:matrix.org> it would have to be in the expense statement 07:27:08 probably for when you have something like "this person gets 3% of all money after tax" 07:27:08 <123bob123:matrix.org> dount you would have to say who it is tho 07:27:16 <123bob123:matrix.org> doubt you would have to say who it is tho 07:27:35 "First, it's important to note that as of now, the Czech Republic does not impose capital gains tax on cryptocurrency transactions. This means that any profits made from selling or trading cryptocurrencies are not subject to tax" 07:27:37 lets go 07:27:56 <123bob123:matrix.org> having the greatest influence, are considered beneficiaries 07:27:59 <123bob123:matrix.org> or 25% profits 07:28:06 <123bob123:matrix.org> from your post 07:29:58 <123bob123:matrix.org> youd have to ask about re reimbursement for volunteers 07:30:03 <123bob123:matrix.org> youd have to ask about reimbursement for volunteers 07:31:48 that seems to be a business expense 07:31:52 anyways 07:32:10 were hiring a crypto accounting firm, im sure theyll handle all of this 07:32:48 <123bob123:matrix.org> yeah 07:33:12 <123bob123:matrix.org> the question is your reimbursing a non employee 07:34:19 probably pretty simple 07:34:52 reimbursements ideally shouldnt even cross 2k€ per year 07:35:46 and that number is mainly for speakers who have to fly in from the US/elsewhere 07:35:46 <123bob123:matrix.org> these are the questions youd have to ask the accountant 07:36:21 jup 07:45:22 <123bob123:matrix.org> just remember the chair thieft falls on you 07:46:23 fuck 07:46:39 we will have to hire a chair bodyguard 07:46:45 im not taking the fall for this one 07:46:47 <123bob123:matrix.org> exclude from ceo contract 07:56:33 where have we seen that before? 07:58:43 monero devices selling via getmonero.org? monero.com? but at least those actually have something to do with monero 08:00:59 you definitely cant take the name just because it has made itself known in crypto and you want to profit off its name with your nft consulting business 08:01:17 you definitely cant take the name just because it has made itself known in crypto and you want to profit off of this with your nft consulting business 08:02:57 Monero's BSD-3 license: 08:02:57 Neither the name of the copyright holder nor the names of its contributors 08:02:57 may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without 08:02:58 specific prior written permission. 08:03:21 its already been violated and the community seems to swallow it, so its fair game for anyone to use 08:03:29 no double standards 08:05:43 <123bob123:matrix.org> who the copyright holder 08:05:44 <123bob123:matrix.org> gf? 08:05:53 we need to chain down all chairs next time 08:17:05 core 08:18:07 id definitely say we can protect ourselves from complete outsiders using our name to do crypto-grifting 08:18:28 id definitely say we can us double standards to protect ourselves from complete outsiders using our name to do crypto-grifting 08:28:45 uh huh. stockholm syndrome. incredible 08:29:16 monerujo did it right - used esperanto theme for a funky monero-based name 08:29:46 outright use of the project name is not only unoriginal and lame, but techincally against the license 08:30:49 i dont make the rules, just calling it how i see it 08:34:52 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/SDoyXeVKhivwAtOjacCsJFEZ 08:34:56 I guess I'm in trouble then 08:39:32 <123bob123:matrix.org> https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/view/951400?q=monero 08:39:43 <123bob123:matrix.org> free here 08:42:22 <123bob123:matrix.org> dunno if its trademarked 08:42:23 Yeah, but Australia doesn't really count. 08:42:23 They couldn't back-door monero, so they banned it from exchanges, right? 08:43:55 <123bob123:matrix.org> yeah 08:43:59 <123bob123:matrix.org> for buyinh 08:44:04 <123bob123:matrix.org> for buying 08:44:21 <123bob123:matrix.org> "This website and its content are protected by copyright, trademark and other proprietary laws. For details please refer to our Copyright section." 08:44:21 <123bob123:matrix.org> https://www.getmonero.org/legal/ 08:44:35 <123bob123:matrix.org> so there is monero legal department 08:44:57 there are seriously real people in this world that buy garbage like .net.com? 08:46:32 <123bob123:matrix.org> The Monero Project 08:46:32 <123bob123:matrix.org> The majority of the content on this website, including the Monero logo and our Monero Missive podcast, is released under the CC BY-SA 4.0 license (the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International license). This means that you can copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format, and remix, transform, and build upon the material for any purpose, even commerci 08:46:33 <123bob123:matrix.org> ally. However, when doing so you must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests The Monero Project endorses you or your use. 08:46:55 Eh, why wouldn't I get .com domains? monerobull: 08:47:26 i mean the "double-domains" 08:47:39 .com is fine 08:47:47 <123bob123:matrix.org> sub domain? 08:48:14 yeah thats garbage 08:48:46 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/nlcdQaMwhyRHRTTOaePyDhHq 08:49:04 ah 08:49:05 <123bob123:matrix.org> lol 08:49:15 thats fine 08:49:17 i meant shit like this 08:49:20 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/tlfikMkfZQYyodTLXtXxNNba 08:49:43 Yeah, I got that (finally) 08:49:52 <123bob123:matrix.org> monero.gov.au 08:51:50 isnt there currently some hacker on twitter inside a .gov domain 08:52:06 <123bob123:matrix.org> maybe 08:52:11 maybe they can give us monero.gov.whatever 08:52:39 <123bob123:matrix.org> monero.gov.fail 09:46:37 monerobull monerosupplies moneroconsulting 09:48:50 yes but i dont sell nfts 09:49:25 i also said that monero.com is _alright_ 09:49:37 there are monero sites distributing hacked binaries 09:49:45 what 09:51:13 i just checked and it seems offline, but wasn't monero dot org distributing some modified binaries for a long time? 09:51:33 my point was that we should consider doing something against completely-unrelated-but-still-in-crypto companies using Moneros name 09:52:00 we should also do something against stuff like this, even more so 09:52:34 like, i have no problem with monero construction 09:53:12 i wouldnt have with monero consulting, if they actually consulted about monero and not nfts and the fungbile token bitcoin 09:53:14 <123bob123:matrix.org> Degooglemonero? 09:53:31 monero dot org is down, we should throw a party https://web.archive.org/web/20220101191655/https://monero.org/ 09:54:37 Maybe check if it expired, somehow? 09:54:38 <123bob123:matrix.org> You can 09:55:28 image.png 09:55:30 ._. 09:55:44 <123bob123:matrix.org> https://talosintelligence.com/reputation_center/lookup?search=monero.org#whois 09:56:08 <123bob123:matrix.org> 15-8-2023 09:56:12 they also got 42$ in eth 09:56:38 <123bob123:matrix.org> Ban 10:00:08 monero dot org was going on forever. looking similar to getmonero and distributing modified binaries, so if "we" cant "stop" that, and have @getmonero being used to sell merch then "you must become the change you want to see in the world" ~ GanDefiNFTconsultancy 10:01:02 are you selling a product with "monero" in the url? is there an about page clarifying that this isnt official? or lists who is involved? 10:03:23 <123bob123:matrix.org> I sell plushies :0 10:03:26 <123bob123:matrix.org> Dont tell bull 10:15:24 monerochan is public domain 10:15:48 :P 10:16:12 go ahead and sue me core (/s, dont) 10:17:15 plow you must see the difference between monero people using the name and logo and people just using the name for their own, non-monero grifting 10:26:45 yes there is a big difference (but we're preaching to the choir here) someone finding the site via a search engine can always assume the consulting is official and also that supplies is official .. partly why monero dot com added a disclaimer* 10:27:29 so can you please point people to the official @getmonero merch reseller 10:27:47 im joking 😬 10:27:59 lmao 10:28:43 <123bob123:matrix.org> Pretty is a copyright requirement 10:28:53 <123bob123:matrix.org> Its on getmonero 10:29:01 <123bob123:matrix.org> Pretty sure is a copyright requirement 10:31:46 <123bob123:matrix.org> The Monero Project 10:31:46 <123bob123:matrix.org> The majority of the content on this website, including the Monero logo and our Monero Missive podcast, is released under the CC BY-SA 4.0 license (the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International license). This means that you can copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format, and remix, transform, and build upon the material for any purpose, even commerci 10:31:46 <123bob123:matrix.org> ally. However, when doing so you must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests The Monero Project endorses you or your use. 10:45:23 ``` 10:45:23 Updated Date: 2023-08-09T11:22:46Z 10:45:23 Creation Date: 2013-08-15T21:54:22Z 10:45:24 Registry Expiry Date: 2024-08-15T21:54:22Z 10:45:24 Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC 10:45:25 ``` 10:46:11 <123bob123:matrix.org> Missed the year 10:46:18 <123bob123:matrix.org> :/0 10:46:20 <123bob123:matrix.org> :/ 10:53:58 Yeah whoever owns that won't forget about it 10:54:43 <123bob123:matrix.org> Lets offer 400k 10:55:27 .org is worth way less than com 10:55:28 I'm guessing that the fireice dude is involved 😬 10:56:31 <123bob123:matrix.org> 399k 10:57:57 <123bob123:matrix.org> https://www.invoiceninja.org/ 10:57:58 <123bob123:matrix.org> found this, add to monerokon account keeping list 11:21:17 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/PYRKSUOOSIkICZpakKERPbAo 11:21:18 hm yeah 11:21:20 looks decent 13:51:10 Like.. monero-hardware 13:51:33 Doxxing!!! Threatz 14:29:01 nono 14:29:08 the doxxing was done by the german state already 14:29:21 public info now 14:29:43 Doxxinggg 14:29:45 (/s) 17:27:54 <4rkal:monero.social> How do you guys like to configure stuff? Web ui vs json config file 18:26:58 Have question about the make_uri rpc api. Could someone assist a bit. the amount params . 18:27:33 what data type does this need to be as the input? 18:29:41 https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/wallet-rpc.html#make_uri should help. is something not working? 18:29:52 Do I need to convert this to a unsigned int? 18:30:17 Yes I have that, thank you. 18:30:24 are you having an issue with the amount needing to be in atomic units? 18:31:10 from recanmann https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/recanman/monero-denominations-converter/blob/main/index.html 18:31:22 yes. Do I need to convert it before sending? It appears to making the conversion for me if its a int data type. 18:31:59 wait, that doesnt have that exact feature, but just ^10 -12 18:32:15 float it fails. So 50 works. 50.25 fails. 18:32:46 the input will be in Piconeros 18:33:34 I have this written in python and request ( POST). Works as advertised, but the amount seems to be sticking issue. 18:33:35 a value of 1 will be requesting 0.000000000001 XMR 18:34:22 OK, math.pow(a, b) works such a m,pow(50, -12) 18:34:29 it has to be converted yes 18:34:58 yes I get that. I would love to see how others may have solve that for a refernce. 18:35:17 Got it piconero! 18:36:15 I saw that their was another reference about converting the amount to uint64 as an input, but have not found any collaboration on that. 18:46:43 It interesting that the rpc call takes my 15.25 of Monero, and makes the conversion in the URI as the output without I making it a piconero prior to the POST call ( amount = 15.25) 18:46:47