00:20:22 Hello everyone I'm supplier of cannabis and psychedelics products 00:20:22 I have edibles 00:20:23 Shrooms(mushrooms) 00:20:23 Weed 00:20:24 Vapes 00:20:24 Codeine 00:20:25 CBD oil 00:20:25 Packwood 00:20:26 Cocaine 00:20:26 Ketamine 00:20:27 Pills 00:20:27 Hash 00:20:28 Rosin 00:20:28 DMT 00:20:29 Meth 00:20:29 Cart 00:20:30 Clone card 00:20:30 Bank notes too etc... 00:20:44 hold that thought 00:21:10 Just what i was looking for 00:21:21 Monero stash gone again, damn. 00:23:14 Whatsup with the Monero Dev icon 00:23:24 Using a square icon for a circle 00:39:02 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/DKASAiOZmfTRVmzDfFCSschC 00:39:12 I held the thought what do i do next 00:39:18 Good point 00:39:27 But jet would be cooler 00:39:40 Put monero and monerochan on it 00:40:04 You could've got one in dc maybe 07:26:05 can we just buy the bitcoin caffee /s 07:26:29 do a ccs for the remaining funds 07:27:04 "if you fund this ccs future monerokon ccs will be like, 500$" 07:28:11 building a node with a used mini PC can be super cheap, about 150€ all in. Currently working on a buyers and setup guide 07:29:01 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/ukasRPhKTuptIvnGGfTVNbJz 07:29:25 imagine if we had the funding of your average shitcoin 07:29:36 beldex can buy 20 castles 07:33:40 lol, how can you say something is in prague if its 250km away from it 08:07:15 hello 08:09:48 Hi! welcome to the Monero community! 08:09:48 If you need help setting up a miner reply with 1 08:09:49 If you need help buying XMR reply with 2 08:09:49 If you would like to chat with a xmr care executive reply with 3 08:14:52 2 08:26:58 Thank you for your selection. 08:26:58 To buy XMR please dial 1800-XMRCHAN-BIGBOOBA 08:29:37 If you have further questions, please reply with 1 08:29:37 If you are satisfied with the service, please reply with 2 08:29:38 To return to the main menu, please reply with 0 08:30:03 lmao 08:30:44 @sjy keep the same energy but do it after you have helped someone in #monero-support:monero.social and not here 08:31:32 Okay.. joined that room 08:32:47 Monero space on matrix here https://matrix.to/#/#monerospace:monero.social 09:44:30 Localmonero.co 09:46:46 For kyc onramps, it depends on your region. 09:46:46 alternative to buying xmr directly, is to buy kyc ltc first, then use a service like trocador.app to swap it into xmr 10:53:05 I like kraken 10:53:06 Instant sepa deposits 10:53:19 Direct euro/xmr pair 11:00:34 binance used to have that, and then, poof, gone - try not to rely on CeX's 11:01:06 im still recovering from not being able to use xmr in my local supermarkets with cakepay 11:02:06 need to use localmonero p2p nooooooo 11:03:41 i dont rely on kraken 11:03:44 its just convenient 11:03:57 but thats my "investment" xmr 11:04:17 my spending xmr comes from monerosupplies 11:04:40 bro making millions on the merch 11:05:17 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Baller 11:06:34 kek 11:06:46 more like, pays the hosting bills 11:20:24 https://web3isgoinggreat.com/single/bitmain-stops-paying-employees 11:20:38 that monero miner really worked out swimmingly 12:04:48 m​onerobull: when monero golden chain and ring in stock? 12:06:51 MajesticBank: AllArk.io - monerobull form AllArk.io 12:07:18 wtf 12:07:23 where did their store go 12:07:37 its a eth dex now or what 12:07:45 its an eth dex now or what 12:18:24 I saw them working with trocador no ? Any service or wallet that's open to community cooperation 12:18:56 should be praised in my point of view 12:19:26 they use trocador because apparently their swaps are all done manually 12:19:41 so now they use trocador for anything below 1000$ 12:19:55 which makes a lot of sense 12:20:09 as more business cooperating in the community, makes community stronger 12:20:31 so we together are attacking market cap of wallets and services that doesn't care 12:20:36 about community 12:20:42 making monero better in the process 12:20:46 circular economy lets go 12:20:48 in the best faith 12:22:33 would anyone be interested in setup/managed hosting for websites/e-commerce stores? 12:23:08 i believe i could offer complete solutions for a small fee 12:36:06 need addition on monero site: fixedfloat, for sure service valuable to monero users 12:36:47 i use it also sometimes 13:54:44 Kraken requires KYC. With MiCA passed by EUParl KYC can turn into KYS if XMR angers Yuroglowies. That said yea Kracken is a better CEQ. 13:56:31 eh, worst case it gets delisted 15:34:14 https://www.blockchainireland.ie/kraken-achieves-emi-authorisation-with-cbi/ 15:35:10 What is KYS? 15:35:12 Kraken have been granted their full European licence, so you can presume they have satisfied compliance requirements thus far. 15:36:35 thanks for sharing midipoet 15:49:10 New MiCA rules require CEQs to delist AECs no? Sgp and others had written commentary about it to EU parl like last year... 15:55:17 Monero Policy 15:55:30 sjy: ^ 15:56:01 https://matrix.to/#/!mehPttlWNbDtNeDbvu:monero.social/$qhU3Hba1DrvChbmx0abVrd9sGTYzWq2jFTVquMEe0Qg?via=monero.social&via=matrix.org&via=nitro.chat 15:56:01 rofl 15:58:04 Ignore last msg. Thx. Im just being a donkey 17:51:35 Thanks! I have so much to discuss in the policy group! 17:51:55 I did not know it existed. 18:21:14 the laws are pretty broad 18:21:36 but banks can fulfill their KYC requirements when dealing with cash so why shouldnt kraken be able to do it with monero? 18:21:46 and banks can fulfill their KYC requirements when dealing with cash so why shouldnt kraken be able to do it with monero? 18:39:04 [Privacy Advisory] Exodus Desktop Monero users, update to latest version for privacy fix https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/176e1zr/privacy_advisory_exodus_desktop_users_update_to/ 18:40:13 MiCA does not mandate to delist AEC, it increases the obligations of intermediary, so does TFR, but delistings are the choice of intermediaries 18:44:55 thats very naive thinking 18:45:18 just like "uhhhh monero is fungible and you cant see any history so it should comply with AML laws!" 18:46:14 no its being realistic 18:46:35 no law says "privacy coins are banned now lol" 18:48:18 i think privacy coins are banned somewhere in the world tbf 18:48:47 or crypto entirely (pls fact check) 18:49:34 Dubaï, Japan, Korea IIRC 18:49:35 thanks 18:49:49 binance exited Netherlands .. removed euro.. removed gbp... 18:50:06 way easier to do for single countries than something like the EU 18:50:22 UK isnt EU and Kraken is still everywhere binance pulled out 18:51:55 kraken has removed xmr/gbp ... 18:52:27 UK isnt EU 18:53:55 there is no law that says xmr/gbp is banned now lol 18:54:27 things just happen, can't be sure what will happen 18:55:03 "The UK FCA recently clarified a position on monero. As one of the world's largest cryptocurrency exchanges, we are constantly working to balance offering one of the most comprehensive sets of assets available to crypto investors and traders, with all applicable regulatory compliance obligations," the spokesperson said in an emailed response on Monday. 18:56:01 only because UK regulators clarified a broad law doesnt mean it will also be banned in the EU 18:56:43 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Ban all! 18:56:44 sure, they could "clarify" their law as well but i doubt it 18:56:45 in any case, wouldnt be a huge loss 18:56:58 at least once we have our own infrastructure in place 18:57:31 which we should seeing how mica only goes into effect for existing coins in like, EOY 2024 19:13:04 Well if they make monero illegal, i guess that just makes me a criminal 19:13:50 I didnt stop using cash when they started associating cash users with extremism 19:14:43 I also didnt start smoking cigarettes when they were saying how good they were good for you 19:17:13 bsers are going to bs, and followers going to follow. they arent gods, theyre some people who let 90 year old senile weirdos be the faces of the country 19:18:30 (cont in offtopic) 19:21:07 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Neva! 19:26:16 Can any monero node be used as a seed node or am I thinking of another network? Or does the operator have to set a flag in the settings for that? 19:33:31 Yes, i believe so.. 19:34:31 no, its not 19:34:43 its you being optimistic 19:40:33 yolobrika: you can manually specify a seed node with the --seed-node flag 19:40:43 if you don't manually specify a seed node it will use one from the source code 19:57:58 it hasnt been banned in nearly 10 years 19:58:26 i dont see how a bank can accept cash but kraken (a bank) cant accept monero 20:01:35 MICA just says you need to comply with AML rules as a vasp. 20:01:51 with kraken having all these licenses and being a literal bank, that shouldnt be a problem at all 20:10:37 guess that means itll never be banned then! 20:30:10 in order for exchanges to use banks they must follow what the banks say 20:30:20 what they say comes from their risk adverse interpretation of regulations 20:30:28 so kraken became their own bank 20:30:34 AIUI they are in the process of doing the same in the US 22:02:51 Because, unlike cash, any crypto transfers should observe FATF's travel rule. This is not a problem when dealing eith cash, bank money or e-money. But it is a yuge problem when dealing with Anonymity Enhanced Cryptocurrencies. 22:04:24 MiCA mandates to observe travel rule and SOF rules starting 2025 I think. This is de facto not possible with AECs. 22:05:45 it is 22:05:55 ...Albert Jay Nock intensifies. <3 22:05:56 Monero's proofs and signatures are sufficient to prove that you have control of a given wallet 22:06:05 also 22:06:16 you can just do it how they do it with a lot of other stuff 22:07:10 "please click here to confirm that you are not breaking FATAFs rules :D" 22:07:10 "please click here to confirm that you are not breaking FATAFs with this transfer rules :D" 22:07:17 "please click here to confirm that you are not breaking FATAFs rules with this transfer :D" 22:08:12 oh no, we didnt break the rules, if there is rule-breaking going on on our platform its individuals and we will obviously terminate their account! 22:08:17 True, but it is not possible to know SOF.. . that makes FATF big mad 22:08:53 SoF has nothing to do with the funds itself 22:09:36 SoF is separate from the Travel Rule 22:09:50 you may need to present a bill stating you sold your car but you can do that with cash, monero or shiny rocks 22:10:25 Correct. VASPs in EU should observe both TR and SOF starting 2025. 22:10:51 well 22:11:17 Correct. But you need PID of all parties involved if the net value is greater than 10K euros. 22:11:27 Ref: DAC8 22:11:35 woodser: kayabanerve you know your deadline 22:11:50 lol 22:12:08 😋 22:12:08 Top KEK 22:12:36 also, not everything is in the EU 22:14:44 i dont see these little dots respecting borders and neither will companies registered in funny little islands 22:14:54 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/OZaFsFNTbWtRsBiYrqBofevx 22:14:59 G20 signed an accord to share PID of crypto using natural and legal persons just a few months ago in India 22:15:12 Sure, not everything is in G20 22:16:08 Those funny tiny islands may be the last stronghold of individual freedom. 22:17:57 grafik.png 22:18:43 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/fWrzBsruOOwiZWNkCDwfyjcl 22:18:54 ive got 1 fren in dubai, cool 22:19:53 Is there an offtopic channel? 22:22:07 man i love the map, great work lza_menace 22:22:51 Monero Offtopic 22:24:12 T. Hanks