06:13:54 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> He going to jail if they catch him putting stickers
06:21:48 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> cut hands off?
06:24:22 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> thats for stealing
06:25:02 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> what would be a proportionate punishment for running a monero node 🤔
06:25:14 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> is running a node even banned or just using xmr to buy things?
07:03:03 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> chop head off
07:19:19 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Even talking about is haram
07:19:28 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Even talking about it is haram
07:19:56 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> nonono
07:20:00 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> monero is halal
07:38:39 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Try talk about monero in uae and you will see what it is 😂
07:39:17 <sech1> Is it banned there? What is the reasoning?
07:55:40 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> based
07:55:53 <m-relay> <o​cean:matrix.thisisjoes.site> do they still do this? 🤔
07:56:52 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Not in public
08:37:27 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> they just BBQ them
14:27:28 <plowsof> update from MoneroSigner https://nitter.net/MoneroSigner/status/1712719779843248476 
14:28:20 <plowsof> community meeting tomorrow https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/906 
14:31:34 <plowsof> the feedback i wanted to leave on vostoemisio and xenus animated video proposal was to reduce the videos to 2 - considering the last ccs took >4 months to complete, 4 videos would be pushing 16 months. reducing to 2 would allow the left over funds from savandras proposal to entirely or almost entirely fund the proposal
14:32:33 <plowsof> Monero observer has also posted their proposal which awaits feedback
15:52:05 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> https://ccs.getmonero.org/ideas/
17:51:48 <pumpkin> hello
18:02:22 <pumpkin2> Any timleline for seraphis implementation ? sorry i did not thoroughly research his topic
18:03:47 <nioc> no real timeline, hopfully 2 years
18:03:55 <nioc> also hopefully 
18:05:46 <pumpkin2> :O
18:07:20 <pumpkin2> i thought it was much sooner
18:07:57 <pumpkin2> Does implementation of seraphis have impact on blockchain size of monero ?
18:08:35 <pumpkin2> i read serpahis allows larger ring sizes
18:10:41 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Yea tx size will increase a bit
18:12:57 <nioc> ring size is not chosen yet, probably a small increase in size which shouldn't mean much, verification time is a more meaningful metric
18:13:51 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Main person is on AL
18:14:09 <nioc> pumpkin2: yeah almost a year ago 2 years was mentioned and considering all first estimates are optimistic I still now say 2 years  :)
18:14:44 <nioc> still much work to be done
18:15:03 <pumpkin2> okay !! keep it killing !
18:15:16 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> 2yrs™️
18:15:24 <pumpkin2> AL ?
18:15:40 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Annual leave
18:15:48 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Ceo approved it
18:15:52 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> :)
18:16:12 <pumpkin2> :(
18:16:35 <nioc> 123bob: AL guy was not doing the implementation 
18:16:57 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> But is not the project leader?
18:17:07 <nioc> no
18:17:35 <nioc> and I thought that I was senile  :D
18:17:49 <pumpkin2> i was trying to work on mobile App, which would be capable of running a monero node
18:18:22 <pumpkin2> i think this would be very useful for decentralization and privacy of monero
18:18:35 <nioc> AIUI you already can
18:18:54 <nioc> ofrnxmr knows about this
18:19:10 <pumpkin2> we can run through cli for sure
18:19:32 <pumpkin2> but i don't think a dedicated app was made or attempted
18:21:05 <pumpkin2> Smartphones are really not made for using CLI on them
18:21:17 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> So why is seraphis getting funded to koe then? If hes not project leader
18:21:26 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/seraphis-ongoing-support.html
18:21:30 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Hmm
18:21:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Pocketnode by cryptogrampy
18:22:27 <pumpkin2> ohh
18:22:55 <pumpkin2> must be pruned one
18:24:32 <pumpkin2> thanks i will try
18:25:05 <nioc> dan bob, I think he has completed most of that, AIUI rbrunner is the project leader, if that is the correct description 
18:25:53 <nioc> aka cat herder 
18:34:31 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Ok, so i assume there is man with a plan for the “project”
18:35:02 <nioc> yes, that man is all of us
18:35:03 <nioc> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
18:35:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> rbrunner is project leader of seraphis _wallet_ workgroup
18:35:56 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Soon™️
18:36:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> There is no seraphis leader
18:36:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> No seraphis "daemon" workgroup etc.
18:36:59 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Hope Somone knows where “we” are going too
18:37:19 <nioc> "monero is the least professional cryptocurrency"  -- fluffy
18:37:32 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> Sidenote: Seraphis is a sexy name.. Reminds me of Sephirot
18:44:01 <pumpkin2> monero should hire full-time devs
18:44:29 <pumpkin2> again, i am new so i don't know if there are already
18:45:09 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> There is a few “full time/part time”
18:46:42 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://ccs.getmonero.org/work-in-progress/
18:58:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero isnt a company
19:11:34 <pumpkin> test
19:13:09 <pumpkin> yeah i understand monero is not a company
19:13:15 <pumpkin> Pocket node seems cool
19:13:23 <pumpkin> i  managed to get it running !
19:13:32 <pumpkin> Now i would never connect to remote nodes even if i am not in my home network :)
19:13:40 <pumpkin> its running monero v 18.2.2 right now though , hope it gets updated soon
20:45:03 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ^
20:45:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Update it then?
20:45:19 <nioc> he left
20:45:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ah
21:32:03 <m-relay> <c​hch3003:monero.social> My monero desktop gui on Mac is showing received txs twice, once with amount, once with "Amount unknown"
21:37:26 <selsta> c hch3003: which version do you use? which wallet mode do you use? you can sheck in Settings -> Info
21:41:49 <selsta> *check