12:44:14 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/879
12:44:14 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> So where is the emails been 2 months
12:44:34 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> I smell cover up
12:48:22 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> the mailbox exists
12:49:06 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://email-checker.net/check
12:50:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> How many other volunteers have official email addresses
12:50:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Contact potential sponsora
12:50:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And rug them?
12:51:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Who knows? Right? Lmao
12:51:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Msvb the only one doing it in public
12:51:30 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> i have one since last week, havent ever logged in though
12:51:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> A getmonero?
12:51:49 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> no a monerokon
12:52:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> But youre ceo
12:52:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> to-be
12:52:57 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> when I send mail to ceo⊙mc it better ends up in mbs inbox
12:53:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> +1
12:53:23 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> i only have mb@ :,)
12:53:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 🚮
12:53:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Hardware⊙go 
12:53:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> michael⊙go
12:53:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Step your game up
12:54:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You need mb. Monerobull, ceo, king, lord, s*th
12:55:09 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Bull does it work
12:55:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Mb
12:55:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Wanna send me an email
12:55:30 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> MBull does it work
12:55:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And ask if i want to sponsor stickers for the next monerokon
12:55:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 6k
12:56:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ill pay u directly, u go buy you something nice
12:56:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> #volunteer
12:57:11 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> you can just send it to my xmr address if you want 😊
12:57:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Will do! Feels great to support "monerokon"
12:57:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Wait, what? Im not a sponsor?
12:57:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> what did i just send the ceo 6k for?
12:58:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> What did i sponsor, if not monerokon?
12:58:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Oh. I sponsored monerodevices?
12:58:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Tf?
12:58:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Oh. I sponsored moneromerch?
12:58:59 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> about 60 shares of Vanguard FTSE All-World UCITS ETF (USD) Accumulating
12:59:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yolo
12:59:35 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> i shall retire 6 months earlier, thank you
13:00:23 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> that'd be counter productive
13:00:38 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> Can't have volunteers retiring
13:02:11 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/pAIyTTKyFkTnjkGldWdUDsvb
13:02:19 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> wow never mind, ill retire a year earlier
13:02:42 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> at least if i move to some cheap country
13:04:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monerobull takes ccs $, buts 6k worth of vanguard and takes off like grampy
13:04:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Buys*
13:05:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (Maybe if i say his name enough times, he'll get mad at me and come back)
13:06:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I vote msvb for ceo and single signer wallet
13:06:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I trust his track record
13:06:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Solid guy
13:07:48 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> yeah he has always maximized returns
13:08:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> tough choice between him and mj though. Msvb is more active and doesnt ragequit
13:09:41 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> So, catch me up. What are we bitching about this time?
13:12:11 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> #monero-events meta
13:12:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Youre my alt, how tf dont you know?!
13:13:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Other day, ofrnxmr woke up to a "credits" post from ajs, listing sponsors and volunteers of monerokon
13:13:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> It had 15k msvb listed as a volunteer
13:13:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Had firo who was robbed of 6k listed as "special thanks"
13:14:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Had doug and sunita under sponsors at one point
13:15:03 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And some weird line about "in appreciation of mooo" < terrible english
13:15:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not sure wtf that means, but its listed in the middle of a list of handles
13:15:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Anyway
13:15:40 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> background: a CCS donor requested that instead of his name
13:16:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> So i can donate
13:16:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And ask
13:16:56 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Okay, just the usual fuck-ups then.
13:17:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> not just
13:17:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Thats old news
13:17:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> New news is
13:17:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ajs wants to run his own monerkon every year from prague
13:17:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> They want to stop using DR for their $
13:18:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And decided to use monerobull to register an LLC for them
13:18:11 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> DR?
13:18:45 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Hence the CEO :)
13:19:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Dr is the company that held their euros
13:20:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> But now they want to be their own company
13:20:30 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> So, totally not a company, is going private.
13:20:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> They just dont want to be responsible when shtf
13:20:37 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> So monerobull was chosen as a fall guy
13:20:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yes
13:20:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> wanted to be a non profit last week
13:21:37 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> This week they want monerobull to be own their company, and have no power but all of the responsibility
13:22:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ANDDD
13:22:20 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Graduating from fuck-ups to full blown shit-show.
13:22:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> they have a ccs open to get us to pay to bury mb
13:23:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ajs wants to run what he treats as _his_ monerkon, from the same location every year, working with _his_ partners in the area
13:23:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> _he_ should be responsible for his own business
13:24:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its not "monerkon"
13:24:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> its "monerokon prague"
13:24:55 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And if it IS monerkon, and not just ajs' prague conferences, than mb is also liable for any business organized under the monerkon banner
13:25:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Buncha dog shit if you ask me
13:27:02 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Is MB jumping in on that deal, or is he diving out to safety?
13:28:28 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> hopefully he's talking to a lawyer rn
13:29:08 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Hopefully 👍️
13:29:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> He has to kyc fornit, of course
13:29:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not to mention monerosupplies
13:30:10 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> ```
13:30:10 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> 2023-10-18 13:22:55.088        I Found block <657fcd3fce105a914039c0891f09fdf1645727859054ede0de4b32bd0336f3fe> at height 1460919 for difficulty: 141040
13:30:10 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> 2023-10-18 13:23:31.422        I Found block <e7652739d76a564638ba32ec6fdb6bee45ab23f266ab8f58e77e52fd7acc0aaf> at height 1460920 for difficulty: 141015
13:30:11 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> 2023-10-18 13:23:38.209        I Found block <2ae668a2dea65eca98ecc8c9ce8ad693967a866c367529e8eff1b9999d1306f2> at height 1460921 for difficulty: 141042
13:30:11 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> 2023-10-18 13:23:39.629        I Found block <63035f1f1b0f1c6b892d10b4b3c61ad470f2f17c99f7b7622e5d9c3347331019> at height 1460922 for difficulty: 140771
13:30:12 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> status
13:30:12 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Height: 1460925/1460925 (100.0%) on stagenet, mining at 872 H/s, net hash 1.17 kH/s, v16, 12(out)+12(in) connections, uptime 0d 8h 13m 54s
13:30:13 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> ```
13:30:13 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Mining at `872 H/s` 😂
13:30:22 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> oh shit, forgot its run under the same username 💀
13:30:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lolol only 300h/s on stagenet
13:30:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Is haveno using stagenet??
13:31:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (aside from yours)
13:33:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ccs to form a company? leftover events $ pays for lawyer fees for mb consult first
13:36:03 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> A real consult, where lawyer goes over 2023 books, 2024 plans, roles of other people etc and advises mb accordingly as to whether to sign on the dotted line
13:38:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> even stuff like with "what happens if i, as a resident of xxx, am ceo allow a sponsor from a sanctioned or unknown country"
13:39:06 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> How does the formation of a private, for profit, company, fit into CCS funding? I have a hard time imagining how that would be formulated.
13:39:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> It does bcuz monerkon is a cesspool
13:39:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (it doesnt)
13:40:15 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> vastly cheaper then non profit, wallet is supposed to be multisig, and signers are imho good people
13:40:32 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> and monerokon kinda sorta needs a bank accounz
13:40:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its a private company
13:40:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monerobulls
13:40:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Bank accts
13:41:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ?
13:41:17 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Kinda sorta just need xmr
13:41:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> and if im ajs
13:41:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Id register my own damn llc
13:41:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> The venue is a multiyear thing
13:42:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> They better learn to convert xmr
13:42:25 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Honestly tru
13:42:51 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> We should look for a venue that accepts xmr
13:45:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I think ajs said one of then accepts xmr or eth or some shit
13:45:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> sorry for the lang lolol
13:46:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://matrix.to/#/!gclBVGbCMQJYuMOAYr:monero.social/$RKNo7CDJ9nyCOoKCbUA_6tRPPrSOIXm1mpTQASraBSI?via=monero.social&via=matrix.org&via=libera.chat
13:46:03 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> Paralelní Polis does accept BTC/XMR as payment
13:46:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yeah pp accepts xmr for venue rental
13:46:37 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> La Fabrika doesn't. They prefer payment by bank transfer
13:46:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> they have a few months to figure it out
13:47:14 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> also many suppliers only accept fiat
13:47:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Them too
13:47:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Or we just do conferences for the lols?
13:48:14 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> we also need an entity with VAT number to be invoiced
13:48:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I vote ajs or msvb
13:48:46 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> #staffmembers
13:48:48 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> What kind of supplies, besides beer and barbeque do you need?
13:49:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 9k worth of msvb shirts and thongs
13:49:23 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> merch, furniture rentals, food trucks
13:49:36 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> DJs
13:49:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Food truck that wont acceptnzmr = rip
13:49:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Djs that wont accept xmr = rip
13:50:11 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> A/V company
13:50:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Rather
13:50:16 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Don't accept vendors who don't accept XMR. How hard can that be.
13:50:17 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Wont adopt* xmr
13:50:32 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> also misc bits and pieces: name tags, wrist bands, scanners for tickets, and a bunch of other small items
13:50:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not invited if you dont like xmr
13:51:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Or arent interested in learning about it
13:51:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Just here to make a quick buck off of people who do give a damn
13:51:40 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> difficult enough to organize as is
13:52:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> These things = sponsors can donate directly
13:52:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Like firo did for the badges
13:52:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Or liberty did for our coffee
13:52:28 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Those can be brought by staff
13:52:33 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Doesn't need a bank account
13:53:00 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> for low value items, yes, can be done by proxy in a sense
13:54:22 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> but for high value, it would need to be someone that has the liquidity to pay large orders/venue rental
13:54:39 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> Do they accept cash?
13:54:52 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> I know a guy who can swap like 200k
13:54:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Cake
13:54:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lol
13:55:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Majestic
13:55:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lol
13:55:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Cmon
13:55:47 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> No way majestic had a bank account outside the caymans lmao
13:55:51 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> even with payment by proxy or cash, the suppliers will want to issue an invoice and request contact and VAT info
13:55:56 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> No way majestic has a bank account outside the caymans lmao
13:56:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ?
13:56:32 <m-relay> <a​js_:matrix.org> many of the sponsors paid us by bank transfer
13:56:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> If i buy something, i pay tax and walk away
14:00:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> So why not give em your own bank info? Or open your own company and do it? (Not monerobulls lolz)
14:05:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> call it "Monerokon Prague" etc and you be the only person. 
14:05:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> we trust bf with the gf, no multisig. we can trust you to not misappropriate sponsor funds, cant we?
14:05:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> its much, much less money
14:23:05 <nioc> The blind men and the elephant 
14:41:32 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Or, the frog and the scorpion 😬
16:47:54 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Trying to compile the latest monero version with gitian. Its been stuck at ```Running build script (log in var/build.log)```.
16:48:12 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> When running docker ps from another user i get this
16:48:14 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> ```
16:48:24 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> ```CONTAINER ID   IMAGE                      COMMAND            CREATED       STATUS       PORTS     NAMES
16:48:25 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> 5885c8d472fb   base-bionic-amd64:latest   "sleep infinity"   2 hours ago   Up 2 hours             gitian-target
16:48:25 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> 57a66608dcc4   gitrun-bionic              "sleep infinity"   2 days ago    Up 2 hours             gitrun```
16:48:55 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> "sleep infinity"
16:49:17 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Running in a qemu vm with 4 cores 4 gigs of ram on ubuntu 18.04
16:51:59 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Following the DOCKRUN.md guide
17:36:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> How long was it stuck for? And how does cpu usage look?
17:38:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Been a while since i did the gitian build, but iirc it looks like its stalled but should be building the sw
18:23:53 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> its possible that the process takes over 12 hours , depends on hardware (and you are running in a VM)
18:24:44 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> a VM thats running a VM(docker)
18:36:56 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Gonna leave it over night
18:37:12 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Think something is happening tho
18:37:43 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> When I run htop I see quite a lot of processes related to it. Is probs running just extremely slowly
19:02:40 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> As long as there is no smoke