00:59:25 well that's a brand new sentence lol 12:27:56 I couldn't resist, It was way too much... https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/17ej4pb/hot_take_monero_nodes_are_safer_on_windows/ 12:40:27 someoneelse and spirobel need to join forces and create the most secure Windows Monero server with a Javascript back and front end 12:40:46 ermmm.... based? 12:40:52 based department? 12:40:53 based much? 12:42:05 make it typescript though or i will find you in real life and murder you with my hands 12:45:21 i should make a public monero node running on the original xp 1.0 release unpatched and livestream the display 24/7 to see how long it takes until something really bad happens to it 12:45:45 no firewall 12:46:25 okay bill gates. still not running monerod in winblows. kthxbai 12:46:59 ok antisemite 12:52:54 <4rkal:monero.social> What you are saying in that awfully long post is basically that a closed source program is more secure than an open source one. Which is completely incorrect. Is closed source monero more secure than open source monero? 12:52:58 <4rkal:monero.social> Don't think so 12:53:25 <4rkal:monero.social> Even if you think that windows is secure you will never know for sure 12:57:18 <4rkal:monero.social> I feel stupid having to explain this to an **open source** community 12:57:30 <4rkal:monero.social> I feel stupid having to explain this to an *open source* community 12:59:58 <4rkal:monero.social> Quoting from your own article '''Security is the ability to trust the applications you use''' . Can you really trust Microsoft? 13:00:10 <4rkal:monero.social> Quoting from your own article "Security is the ability to trust the applications you use" . Can you really trust Microsoft? 13:00:22 <4rkal:monero.social> Can you really trust closed source software? 13:00:42 true 13:00:58 personally i prefer doing my monero transactions on apartheid linux 13:02:21 <4rkal:monero.social> I use Hana Montana Linux 13:02:36 <4rkal:monero.social> Prolly more secure than w*ndows 13:02:45 <4rkal:monero.social> Lol 13:03:40 TempleOS is the most secure OS 13:04:53 if your software is closed source / proprietary and gives me more FPS on quake, im using it 13:05:14 well unless you use something like gentoo with no binary repos and set up a 20k usd build server cluster with 19 threadrippers to build chromium youre relying on whoevers building your shit to not fuck you 13:05:26 Werent you advocating for increased monero node running on windows like 14 hrs ago 13:05:51 Many GUI wallet users run on Windows, and they run nodes 13:05:51 fingerprinting and opt in usage statistics ^ 13:06:54 many even mine on p2pool with the gui 13:07:04 great addition 13:17:18 ^ 13:17:59 List it on monero.fail as well lmao 13:23:32 <4rkal:monero.social> Still advocating for more windows usage. Just saying that it's less secure. Diversification is more important. 13:25:04 <4rkal:monero.social> Tried Gentoo, not too bad compiling times on an old laptop. The kernel took like 5 hours. But pretty fast either way 13:25:08 . 13:26:03 <4rkal:monero.social> Still if a bug exists on Windows it most probably won't exist on Linux and vice versa. 13:27:10 <4rkal:monero.social> The fact that windows is inferior to Linux doesnt change the fact that we need diversification 13:27:36 <4rkal:monero.social> Will look into nmaping all the public nodes to see if I can get the os 13:28:11 http://ofrnxmrqhjqb2zwl2zafkyv7cd52k5yrnivlu37mo7a7qsd4a3tva5id.onion 13:28:14 siren did above 13:28:18 :18089 13:28:34 He wants _all_ bootstrap nodes 13:28:59 right 13:34:32 <4rkal:monero.social> cant nmap on tor 13:34:42 not only do GUI users use windows but CLI as well 13:34:57 <4rkal:monero.social> ran on https://node.lzahq.tech:443 and got Running (JUST GUESSING): Linux 4.X|5.X|2.6.X|3.X (90%), Crestron 2-Series (86%), HP embedded (85%) 13:35:35 <4rkal:monero.social> no wait 13:35:54 <4rkal:monero.social> ``` 13:35:54 <4rkal:monero.social> ``` 13:35:58 <4rkal:monero.social> Aggressive OS guesses: Linux 4.15 - 5.8 (90%), Linux 5.0 (90%), Linux 5.0 - 5.4 (90%), Linux 5.3 - 5.4 (89%), Linux 2.6.32 (89%), Linux 5.0 - 5.5 (88%), Crestron XPanel control system (86%), OpenWrt 12.09-rc1 Attitude Adjustment (Linux 3.3 - 3.7) (86%), Linux 3.13 or 4.2 (86%), XBMCbuntu Frodo v12.2 (Linux 3.X) (86%) 13:36:07 <4rkal:monero.social> So prolly linux 13:36:12 <4rkal:monero.social> lol 13:41:56 You can with proxychains 13:42:11 <4rkal:monero.social> Trying that rn 13:42:16 <4rkal:monero.social> torify doesnt seem to be working 13:42:38 peer lists are accessible (see py_levin), no need to limit yourselves ot public rpc nodes 13:43:25 Why do these mutually exclusive probabilities add up to over 100%? 13:46:44 Those are results of fingerprinting tests for a given OS. 13:50:40 <4rkal:monero.social> 😥 https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/120708/nmap-through-proxy/120723#120723 13:50:44 https://nmap.org/book/osdetect-fingerprint-format.html#osdetect-ex-clean-subject-fprint 13:59:42 <4rkal:monero.social> Scanned some more, can't find a single windows one 14:00:31 <4rkal:monero.social> Might be because no one wants to run a public node on windows. 14:01:08 Scan on a known windows machine running anode and see what OSes it detects. 14:01:14 try installing a fresh windows server vm and try scan it with nmap. I'm sure you'll see it coming /s 14:01:53 You're assuming nmap classifies OSes correctly. 14:02:00 <4rkal:monero.social> Yeah ofc 14:02:52 rbrunner7 is probably running a node on Windows FWIW. 14:03:04 also sech1 14:03:18 might be good nmap their nodes 14:03:23 might be good testing nmap their nodes 14:03:26 might be good testing nmap on their nodes 14:04:03 99.9% of users running a node on Windows are behind NAT, so no point in scanning them 14:05:33 <4rkal:monero.social> Yeah I don't think scanning all public nodes is a good sample to get an idea of what the whole network is running... 14:09:54 For the most part it does. And often times the monero RPC ports aren't the only ports open on public nodes. That helps with fingerprinting too. 14:10:18 You can't scan what's behind NAT obviously. 14:20:51 <4rkal:monero.social> Started syncing from the gui on a windows machine, ran nmap ```Too many fingerprints match this host to give specific OS details``` 14:21:04 <4rkal:monero.social> On the same lan 14:21:22 <4rkal:monero.social> Unless you open some ports, its impossible for nmap to know what os is running 14:36:57 https://youtube.com/watch?v=8yOQtjgdOz0 15:04:13 where can i find the original video of 2:02 ? 15:04:24 where can i find the original video at 2:02 ? 15:09:42 i don't know It was posted on reddit 15:09:51 never saw this video 15:23:39 Welp. I think I'm out of Monero stickers... 15:24:16 congratulation 15:24:18 congratulations 15:24:33 Thanks. 15:24:43 Now do I buy more? Xd 16:02:47 monerosupplies.com :) 16:14:20 this message was brought to you by monerobull, the ceo of monerosupplies 16:14:33 sounds like a boss 16:14:47 ***Monerobull, CEO of monerosupplies*** 16:14:53 it's a fact that i have the highest quality, cheapest stickers 17:04:47 Sorry to disappoint. I am a Windows guy alright, but I nevertheless switched to Linux as my main OS about 2 years ago ... and not running a mainnet node at the moment, only a testnet one. 18:56:38 Hello! Can someone explain the purpose of the recent RandomX update? 18:56:56 <123bob123:matrix.org> Even border security steals mbull stickers 19:01:31 chch3003: Ask in #monero-pow:monero.social 19:01:42 ok 19:11:57 <123bob123:matrix.org> https://monero.town/post/883264 19:11:57 <123bob123:matrix.org> I remember mentioning the version is wrong many moons ago 19:25:48 v1docq47: have you looked into using AI tools for translating/dubbing videos? 19:32:41 kayabanerve your Russian is perfect, i had no idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GjK617zt9Q 19:34:43 we don't need AI for dubbing/translating Russian we sponsor humans for this 😬 20:00:20 <123bob123:matrix.org> Da comrade 20:23:15 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/WlanTSOJvPBkIZbSxGyrpECl 20:23:15 We can self promote? in that case... this girl is THIRSTY for XMR devs.... If you are one of these fine ladies or gentlemen, let me ease some of that deadline pressure 🥺 20:25:16 file xmrtran.jpg too big to download (2197235 > allowed size: 1000000) 20:25:16 xmrtran.jpg 20:25:27 Girl's gotta stay warm somehow... 20:25:47 bros. 20:36:54 That a mans setup 20:37:24 Thats* 20:42:10 *man's 20:42:29 is binding your feet in now? 20:42:49 the mining only started huh? 20:42:58 but nice setup bro nonetheless 20:44:32 Is that windows 20:46:07 yea, win 11 from the other screenshot 20:46:47 4rkal: see? Plenty of diversification in monero :P 20:47:47 yea, very diverse in beliefs 20:49:02 Yur just jealous cuz windows gets better hashrates 20:49:12 (Or so ive heard) 20:49:44 I've heard the opposite, but yea beliefs don't justify realities ig 20:49:51 not sure if there is any test data on this 20:50:06 Xmrig.con/benchmark 20:50:12 Xmrig.com/benchmark 20:51:06 Top scores for (probably any cpu ive checked) are all on windows 20:53:39 you'd have to adjust to the portion of windows miners as well 20:54:37 I thought Linux would grant more direct access to the RAM, but point taken not to trust the appearance 20:55:29 I absolutely did not imply that windows held the majority hashrate 20:55:39 I said windows gets better hashrates 20:56:04 And there are OS like mmpos, which try to get better hashrates but it seems windows still has an advantage 20:57:08 mining OSs do seem like an interesting option, haven't heard of mmpos before 20:57:19 Monero Mining a few of the guys there use it 20:57:32 Ive never used it, i dont see why i would 20:57:47 Unlike other coins miners, xmrig is foss. 20:58:23 Which is another joke. How decentralized is your shitcoin, if the only mining software is proprietary 21:01:51 definitely, but most of the "decentralization" of these projects is just a mere paper curtain if you get what I mean. 21:07:10 That's a dude wtf 21:07:24 Bro got a better mustache then me tf 21:07:55 I'd still hit 21:08:06 Game is game 21:15:17 Game is most certainly not game 21:17:46 Bread is bread no matter the baker 🤤 21:17:50 Dont assume 21:18:32 Not sure we have a room for that nsfw stuff 21:19:29 he is 15 either way, even if there was, it shouldn't be for him 21:22:39 Well this room is a workgroup. Comments about sexual orientation, race, etc. are, lets say "unwelcome" here 21:22:44 Bobbedbort is a lolicon 21:22:57 Ur unwelcome 21:23:01 And im not sure theyd fly in offtopic either YMMV 21:23:24 lets not bring the discord meta over here 21:24:24 gay 21:24:25 We dont discriminate against age either, plowsof! 21:24:39 Yeah lil nigga 21:24:42 Yeah lil bri 21:24:45 Yeah lil bro 21:24:46 Raver trying to summon a mod 🤣 21:24:57 🙃 21:25:37 Where's the naked black men porn? Is there any place where i can buy that with xmr? 21:25:50 monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org: can you answer that 21:26:24 I love big black men 21:26:55 Whole bridge gonna get kicked 🥴 21:27:00 Me when i say big oily black men with fat butts and their willies hanging out: 😍 21:27:10 * m-relay removes bridgerton from -community 21:27:16 and nobody bats an eye 21:27:30 zero / slow moderation on discord to begin with 21:27:43 moderation is gay 21:27:56 One of the discord mods got doxxed by an ex-member btw lol 21:28:18 You are not the only one working on this. If you want shipped a set of USB media free of charge, then write about your current work progress to hardware⊙go or #monero-hardware. 21:28:28 Shit's crazy on this side of the bridge 21:28:48 HUH? 21:28:59 It's never that serious lol 21:29:10 again, this is discord meta stuff 21:33:34 if your energy in your pseudo-mind is not conducive to what I'm saying or what I'm feeling, then there's incompatibility. 21:33:38 The devices that some of us have found to be best have dual interfaces of type-A and type-C. The transceiver chips are real Taiwan, usually SMI, Sandisk, or Micron. The standard is USB 3.0. 21:34:20 But the speed is not good enough yet to use as someoneelse495495 needs, so we are working on that as well as changing from digital to silkscreen printing. 21:42:22 /shrug It's where I got my first ones 21:42:30 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 21:42:47 Bruh 21:44:36 Nah, use Monero Community Dev 21:44:40 msvb is a scammer 21:44:49 Monero Community Dev 21:45:01 Lol 21:45:15 be careful with those email addresses 21:47:41 https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/879 21:48:56 <123bob123:matrix.org> When someone is on ignore do you get phantom pings? 21:51:52 is msvb wants to collab, he should be posting a link to a repo 21:52:24 Not an official sounding/looking email address for his backroom bullshit 21:52:42 If* msvb 21:54:19 https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/879#issuecomment-1689657318 22:16:14 We should deprecate geonic from the community 22:25:08 wtf is geonic ? 22:28:56 A scammer 22:29:24 Scammed the community out of 25k for a 5 second scene in a movie that's probably gonna flop 22:36:14 Which 5 seconds? 22:36:37 Could have sworn monero isnt even in the script. Maybe the 5 seconds in the scrolling credits? 22:37:40 ❤️ 22:37:42 Lol 22:38:40 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/o0sura/an_open_letter_to_the_core_team/ 22:38:53 This one deserved an oscar 22:40:46 Digital Euro, Latest Monero Nostr relay, Terrorism crypto-funding & more! - with @tony_uberbleu (NEWS EPI #138) 22:40:46 ———- 22:40:47 RandomX 1.2 and Fluorine Fermi - with @ComradeBlin (DEV EPI #138) 22:40:47 ———- 22:40:48 Crypto & gold optimistic, stocks shaky - with BawdyAnarchist (PRICE EPI #138) 22:40:48 Thank🙏🏽you to our Sponsor 22:40:49 @localmoneroco 22:40:49 https://localmonero.co/ 22:40:50 📺Watch Full Epi Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4vT54p_mjc 22:41:53 bruv 22:42:35 Sup? I was told that I can post it here, but do not post it in other channels. 22:42:44 ok bruv. 22:43:49 *15 shekels have been added to your account* 22:44:06 what is a shekel? 22:44:19 who am I and how did I get here? 22:45:40 i paid 15 shekels for you. Youre mine, is who you are. And i am plowsof, in case youre wondering 22:46:00 0_o 22:46:11 👀 22:46:14 Ok retard. 22:46:36 hey, at least i know what a shekel is 22:46:41 Genius 22:46:45 You have been sent to horny jail, guilty of impersonating a-a-a plowsof. 22:47:40 If plowsof doesnt identify as a person, is it stilk impersonating? 22:48:03