01:38:08 yo 01:38:10 is kovri still a thing? 01:38:18 im writing a guide for kyun on hosting an eepsite 01:38:18 No 01:38:39 It never happened iirc 01:38:53 ah that sux 01:39:00 It never happened iirc (got implemented) 01:39:16 is the shit written here still valid?https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/2324/what-is-the-difference-between-i2pd-and-kovri 01:39:29 That I'm not sure of 01:41:21 naphtha: no, Kovri is dead 01:41:35 i2pd is recommended 01:41:52 :'( 01:41:54 aight thanks 04:35:34 https://matrix.to/#/!YXAWqTPrnyDMWUqKVD:matrix.org/$ITDiRRXUB9HJL6kh6oocCmczZIVOh4kuSuIdIl57xkI?via=monero.social&via=matrix.org&via=frei.chat 04:35:34 naphtha: 04:38:07 i almost fell asleep in my chair you woke me up 04:38:08 ! 04:38:29 Did you at least log out? 04:38:40 👎️ physical security 04:38:55 no ones entering my house i have gypsies with knives guarding my door 04:39:26 u trust gypsies with knives? 04:40:57 i trust these gypsies 11:48:35 Meeting today in 3hrs12mins~ https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/912 12:13:39 ofrn's last message is a link which asks me the following question "Choose an app to continue" 12:13:58 maybe one day we will have a proper babel fish 12:35:39 All but one of the CCS issues are spam: https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/issues 12:35:39 Do you have the rights to remove those plowsof? 13:15:44 no, but i poke luigi1111 when there is *looks* yes thats enough to get cleaned lol 13:24:20 nioc: is Monero Support available on mrelay? Too lazy to check :D 13:24:54 yes 15:00:40 Meeting time https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/912 15:00:58 greetings! 15:01:06 hi frens 15:01:09 hello 15:01:25 Hello. 15:01:35 hello 15:02:11 hi 15:02:33 lets discuss some recent news while people arrive 👋 15:03:06 [RISC-V binaries](https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/9029#pullrequestreview-1691266562) PR from selsta. tobtoht and others testing/helping. and it looks to be complete 👍️ 15:03:46 Greetings! 15:03:52 selsta discovered an issue some time ago which prevented M1/M2 Mac users from using the Monero-GUI to manage a local daemon. A patch fixing this issue (which reduced hash rate/performance for GUI Mac users) has been reverted: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pull/4229 after sech1 found the root cause [#monero-pow logs](https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-pow/20231019# 15:03:53 tevador and tobtoht did most of the work 15:03:53 c290842) . sech1 is also working on adding merge mining into p2pool, links to the repo can be found in the bounty that will reward this effort https://bounties.monero.social/posts/96/1-100m-add-merge-mining-to-p2pool 15:04:15 tyvm tevador and tobtoht 🫡 15:05:21 more details of this can be discussed with the professionals in #monero-pow 😄 15:07:02 Rucknium has been busy.. after detecting a privacy leak from Exodus, proving that it had been fixed: https://monero.town/post/842460 he "counted the number of non-RingCT rings and outputs created between block height 2689608 (v16 fork on 2022-08-14) and 3003871 (2023-10-25)." to aid with the privacy impacts of "Treating pre-RingCT outputs like coinbase outputs" https://github.com/ 15:07:02 monero-project/research-lab/issues/59#issuecomment-1783237506 15:08:09 all Monerokon videos have been uploaded by ajs_ Monerokon videos https://yewtu.be/watch?v=clCcuAIaAz4&list=PLsSYUeVwrHBm1m7IaU3JiDVb5EC7cn0KG&index=0 .. a talk by BasicSwap dex can be found there. who have this week released a Gui for Windows 15:08:31 The videos are very good. 15:09:35 i need to redo two (noot and midipoet's) as the stream didn't get part of the intro 15:10:06 I think its more than a GUI, but an exe installer 👀 (basicswapdex windows update) 15:10:10 I'll be repairing the videos from locally recorded backups 15:10:33 there is also a remote presentation missing on monero standard book 15:10:43 will upload soon 15:11:09 Jberman who will be appearing soon in a chicago meetup sponsored by cakewallet has been finishing [background sync with view only wallet](https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8617) ready for review/testing - [bounty for this here](https://bounties.monero.social/posts/41/) rbrunner has been testing and providing actionable feedback/issues ... rbrunner also posted the [Ser 15:11:09 aphis 1 year development report ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/17duyvo/seraphis_wallet_development_1_year_report/) 15:12:00 vik (Cake): 15:12:08 Hinto who i notice being here today... released a new GUPAX version recently. their CCS maintenance period is up/due for payout at the end of December, thanks for your support 15:12:11 when this book will be released? 15:13:21 there was a recent announcement from their twitter account 15:14:35 any other items to discuss? all our newsletters have been active: News: [Monero Observer](https://www.monero.observer/) - [Revuo Monero](https://revuo-xmr.com/) - [The Monero Standard](https://localmonero.co/the-monero-standard) - [Monero Moon](https://www.themoneromoon.com/) 15:16:14 Cake wallet meetup in chicago in a couple days 15:16:28 Featuring jberman: and kayabanerve: iirc 15:17:03 Thats.. nov 2 i think. Nit sure exact details 15:17:04 boog900 finished their 1st milestone, awaiting payment https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/405 15:17:22 more info on that here https://www.meetup.com/monero-chicago/events/295349648/ hosted by sgp 15:17:24 Payments will come soon tm 15:18:13 we#re keeping track of those awaiting payouts, apologies for the delays, everyone should be listed in my update comment here https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/385#note_22625 15:18:46 valldrac has also posted an update of his milestone 1 nearing completion https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/388#note_22758 15:19:12 lets try and tackle the ideas list 15:19:37 https://ccs.getmonero.org/ideas/ 15:20:03 skipping a. [Add retroactive funding proposal for FCMPs](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/403) as its waiting to be merged 15:20:14 b. [dangerousfreedom - wallet work](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/409) 15:20:19 One thing - website needs to be updated 15:20:28 It still shows loveras ccs as requires funding 15:20:40 true 15:21:00 I am already using this wip lib to develop my monero wallet, it it currently in a private repo, but I'll open source it when it is done. You can check some simple demo videos here: 15:21:01 https://drive.proton.me/urls/SRA0MVB4HG#zNrGiHiiWXCI 15:21:01 Password: rafaelrsanches 15:21:14 I am already using this wip lib to develop my monero wallet, it is currently in a private repo, but I'll open source it when it is done. You can check some simple demo videos here: 15:21:14 https://drive.proton.me/urls/SRA0MVB4HG#zNrGiHiiWXCI 15:21:15 Password: rafaelrsanches 15:21:52 dangerousfreedoms proposal was discussed last week, positive vibes all round. and since then rbrunner along with the no wallet left behind workgroup are providing reviews of their previous work, so this is progressing 15:22:09 not much else to say really 15:22:19 The good thing? Even if we voted to merge, we'd still be waiting 15:22:43 this is true 15:23:20 up vote for whenever it's ready 15:23:59 hopefully roads converge and it makes the merge queue in time 15:24:00 moving on? 15:24:05 +1 for dangerousfreedom 15:24:36 c. [Core Monero Concepts](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/412) 15:25:05 in its current form, it would absorb the remaining funds from savandras proposal, and go to funding requiring 1 XMR 15:26:15 2 videos are planned. RandomX and Nodes. i shared concerns about nodes perhaps being boring/generic and xenu explained their concept for the video 15:26:15 Imo nodes and randomx are 1 video 15:27:45 What where the other 2 future topics planned? 15:29:01 found it 15:29:01 • Random X: Understanding the significance of ASIC resistance 15:29:02 • Breaking down the how-to and the rationale for P2Pool. 15:29:02 • Nodes: Why every Monero enthusiast should consider running one. 15:29:03 • Fungibility: Explaining its essence in the context of Monero. 15:29:33 thanks, was swimming through my tabs 15:29:53 Yeah i think RandomX and Nodes are good picks to do first 15:30:11 and yes i think they should be separate videos 15:30:55 this would be a test then to make a Monero-centric video about nodes, and not just about http / a series of pipes on a decentralised networks 1 node 1 vote 15:31:02 also think that they should be separate 15:31:05 cryptocurrency/internet^ not Monero 15:32:27 xenu did a good job with the script last time, and I will proof read it too 15:32:46 I'm pretty certain it will work out well 15:32:54 thanks ceetee 15:33:19 Hello, apologizes for being late 15:33:34 merging this team to produce 2 videos, requiring only 1XMR + remaining funds from savandras has my vote 15:33:56 +1 15:34:15 hi recanman ! 15:37:29 1 vote is make it 1 video, 2 votes for merge as is, 1 vote for 'meh nods could be boring but i see you will help to make sure its not' 15:37:42 moving on? 15:38:09 +1 merge as is 15:38:30 cant find the proposal for last vid, was that also 18XMR 15:38:32 cant find the proposal for last vid, was that also 18XMR? 15:38:51 previous was 9xmr for 1 video 15:39:48 okey, why do we now have such a jump in price? 15:40:43 theyve cornered the market / the previous one was at a heavily discounted rate 15:40:44 im not certain though, vostoemisio can clarify 15:41:13 iirc the 'real' price vosto's team charges commercial entities for this work is greater than 18xmr / video 15:41:32 Were not a commercial entity 15:41:41 expect a clarification on the jump soon 🙏 15:41:43 It seems a bit expensive 15:42:30 ok lets move on 15:42:40 e. [Incorporate LLC for MoneroKon](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/415) 15:42:46 hi 15:43:02 hello, i think -events still need to fine tune this idea? 15:43:03 so, planning for MoneroKon 2024 has been on hold until the entity issue has been been resolved 15:43:20 there has been concerns expressed regarding the number of directors vs the need for decentralization, that an LLC is technically "for profit" vs alignment with Monero ethos, and why even have an entity when invoicing could be outsourced and there is no need for banks since everything should be paid in XMR 15:43:30 I understand these concerns 15:43:44 on the other hand, the perfect could become an enemy of the good 15:43:45 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/415#note_22771 15:43:45 I'm about to thumb up this comment 15:44:10 as no one "owns" MoneroKon and MoneroKon is a community lead initiativ 15:44:23 your input on the future direction we take is extremely important 15:45:19 you cant register a legal entity, with 1 shareholder, and claim no one owns it 15:45:24 Fantasia 15:45:38 Independent option will be discussed more at the meeting in hour hour 15:45:43 The latter (no entity) means yes, no one owns it 15:45:44 Independent option will be discussed more at the meeting in one hour 15:45:50 I'm not sure how it would work though 15:46:06 And everybody is responsible for their own actions 15:46:24 i think the structure of this LLC has changed (monerobull has decided not to move forward) and other things have been suggested, may need some edits/further discussion? 15:46:44 if it is independent option, I would have to step away for the project since I am a known person and have been KYCed 15:47:12 Why dont YOU open an llc ON YOUR OWN? 15:47:23 And head it as ceo, yourself 15:47:35 yes, we need to work on it more 15:47:44 Super comfortable if _someone else_ does it, right? 15:48:00 thats not good as ajs has been heavily involved/crucial to all the monterokons (someone who has attended one can attest) 15:48:02 we are open to comments, suggestions 15:48:12 Does it have to be EU-based? What were the reasons that MAGIC was ruled out earlier? 15:48:23 Tax stuff 15:48:25 Aside from that "i wouldnt touch this project with a 10 foot pole" sounds like a funng thjng to say, after nominating your friend 15:48:30 And KYC afaik 15:48:33 Monerokon state side would be ok with MAGIC i assume 15:48:39 usa based 15:49:03 sgp: 15:49:08 is there an events meeting today? 15:49:12 Yes 15:49:24 In one hour and 10 minutes 15:49:28 Why is USA-based a barrier? 15:49:38 Good question 15:49:42 someone in US needs to organize it 15:49:54 Since the issue is being reconsidered 15:50:16 Yes plowsof, there is a events meeting today. 15:50:31 Thanks recanman 15:50:47 I think it's in about one hour. 15:51:01 Someone has recan on ignore? 15:51:02 Anyway, I just wanted to make sure people didn't forget that MAGIC is an option. 15:51:13 thanks, i think its best to dedicate more time to this proposal in the #monero-events:monero.social meeting 15:51:15 Oh no 15:51:27 okay 15:51:30 we can move on 15:51:42 thank you for attending ajs_ 15:51:42 for one person this chat must be half-empty, lol 15:52:04 f. [erc: ccs for getmonero and weblate](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/416) 15:52:28 I upvoted. 15:52:28 He needs help over there anyway 15:52:30 There are many issues with getmonero website in terms of localization 15:52:56 ceetee left a nice comment, noticed some typo and made sane suggestions about minimum availability / disclaimers 15:53:03 hardenedsteel: , plowsof hinto @hinto.janaiyo:matrix.org: 15:53:04 help out 15:53:12 I'd like to see weblate work again 15:53:38 Id like to see some people contribute ❤️ 15:53:57 erc has access to the vps / pings back end staff about it and performs maintenance tasks himself. weblate should be coming back online soon(tm) 15:54:08 After plowsof's answer I'd say 1 hour availability/week is fine. I just want to make sure that there is someone to contact if/when thinks break 15:54:34 Depending on how large it is, I could do arabic 15:54:42 erc is available everyday most times 15:54:49 Monero Website 15:55:20 erc has to at least correct the typo ceetee spotted and respond to the comments 15:55:43 work in progress list will show a catalogue of pain and suffering dating back ~4 year of website contirbutions 15:55:49 completed list* 15:56:32 there are reasons to dislike the proposer, but those reasons do not prevent work on site being done 15:57:27 i think we can move on awaiting response/edit 15:57:55 we need to discuss the most important one! 15:58:02 g. [Monero Selfhosted View-only Web Wallet (with received transaction Telegram/Email/SMS/Discord/Webhook alerts)](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/417) 15:58:19 -1 15:58:27 lol 15:58:27 News folks: its the first view only wallet 15:58:34 i did not alert the proposer about this community meeting, because hteyve been in the shadows for 3 years following all news 15:58:48 im sure they are here right now, so let them know how you feel 15:58:52 rafaelrsanches: that upvote is sus 15:59:04