01:16:20 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> is this 108xmr donation legit binaryFate https://nitter.net/WatchFund/status/1718352903058956651
01:19:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> luigi1111:  !
01:20:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ppl are donating and proposals are empty 🙈
01:20:34 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> im going to unofficially say it is legit as the bot isnt watching the main address (where change is sent) :)
01:26:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> luigi1111:  hows this sound:
01:26:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> send plowsof the 242(?) xmr that are "overpayments". 
01:26:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Plowsof can handle payments on saturday/sunday after each meeting, and you can repay that wallet monthly. 
01:26:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> then, all you have to worry about is merges. 
01:26:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> nothing should change with payment criteria. If people normally ping luigi for pay, they still should. 
01:26:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> this could also work for streamlining bounties
01:27:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not usual to make payments from the whale wallet. Should have a smaller "float" hot wallet
01:27:25 <plowsof> i do not want to hold funds / exit scam anymore, i think friday was a moment of madness 😅
01:28:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Got a better idea?
01:29:04 <luigi1111w> update soon
01:29:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ty luig
01:33:03 <nioc> ™
01:50:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> this is on topic, but controversial
01:50:46 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Rumors are spreading that anarkiocrypto is a scammer
01:51:03 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> What?
01:51:04 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> How?
01:51:09 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Any evidence?
01:51:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ill send links in a sec
01:51:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Hes supposedly the same person he transferred kuno to, and someone who is raising funds on kuno but lying in their proposal
01:51:54 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Interesting
01:54:05 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> that kuno fundraiser is not from anarkio himself, didnt the tweeter ask for anarkio to comment about a scammer using kuno?
01:55:36 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> the fundraiser in question was for 2 xmr iirc and anarkio has forcefully returned > 10 xmr in the past / removed his donation addresses, surely a misunderstanding?
02:01:47 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> twitter thread in question right? https://twitter.com/monetaryreset/status/1717471484770181567
02:01:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://twitter.com/Z33z10n/status/1717191203395871123
02:01:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Supposedly that is anarkio
02:02:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://twitter.com/IanNiculescu/status/1717527803971731469
02:02:36 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> @elon elmo plz confirm ID
02:03:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Dm screenshots between someone and anark, had anark saying he would delete his handle if it made him happy, and would repay the money etc. 
02:03:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> sounds fishy
02:03:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ian Niculescu:  r ya here
02:05:03 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> A lot of deleted tweets now. Id didnt screenshot them, but sounded like zee = anarkio, and zee = a liar, fake pics and everything
02:05:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ... doesnt anark know we would have paid him 🤨
02:05:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Doesnt add up
02:05:54 <nioc> such proof
02:06:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> right?
02:06:22 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> plowsof scammed me on kuno
02:06:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I donate to every kuno
02:07:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> But seriously, i saw it and was like ... anark would have to be stupid
02:07:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Someones a liar
02:08:42 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> I propose we form  xmr gestapo
02:08:47 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> And investigate
02:24:34 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> anarkio has offered to send me money / refused help. can also type coherently in English. i bet if someone was scammed on kuno and approached anarkio he would feel obliged to repay them out of guilt... no way on earth this Zee is anarkio https://nitter.net/Z33z10n/status/1717162132234494370
02:26:51 <dukenukem> highly doubt that is anarkio.
02:30:27 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> preach!!
02:30:39 <dukenukem> you first!!
02:36:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Anark deleted all tweets
02:38:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> :(
02:38:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> anark has offered to _send_ you money?
02:39:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> can o worms, i just opened, lol. Another day
02:44:14 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> I must have missed the memo. Link to the lws client thingy, anyone?
02:46:18 <endogenic> .soon
03:10:37 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Endo is luigi alt. Confirmed
03:12:38 <endogenic> impossible. i have met luigi.
03:17:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And i have met ceetee and trasherdk 😉
03:18:28 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Maybe in a wet dream 😳
03:19:14 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Serious or no?
03:26:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> My lips are sealed. 
03:26:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (no)
06:55:39 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> I'm using the custodial plowsof backup service for my cold wallet and so far I happy with the service!
06:56:33 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> jk of course, but out of all people here the chance that plowsof rugs us is the lowest
07:01:06 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> I do like this idea, especially for smaller payouts like bounties and such
11:29:14 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> https://twitter.com/WatchFund/status/1718352903058956651
11:29:24 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> That's a lot of monero...
11:36:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Im sure 4rkal like the idea too.. those delays were costly 😭
11:54:47 <m-relay> <k​aizer:hackliberty.org> Wassup the good people of the monero community, I've got a proposition that might just tickle your fancy, imagine a foss tool that made it easy to build personalized activitypub websites. I think that would be a huge step towards the circular economy we always talk about while maintaining our ethics. Eventually maybe it would be a full-blown CMS like wordpress but for starters it <clipped message>
11:54:47 <m-relay> <k​aizer:hackliberty.org> could be a simple site generator, not necessarily only for static websites, but it would allow for users to write a custom theme once and then make updates using markdown, org-mode or even plain ol html and run it through the generator and boom, you've got a website with a fully functional activitypub implementation. We can add other functionality as we go along, I imagine people <clipped message>
11:54:48 <m-relay> <k​aizer:hackliberty.org> would want to be able to quickly publish a hidden service for example. Or personalize their feed. On that note, the main reason for this activitypub side of things is the federation we would get if people used this system. We can host private servers as well and maintain network privacy if so desired. What do y'all think? Would you want to use a system like this? It's FOSS. What f<clipped message>
11:54:48 <m-relay> <k​aizer:hackliberty.org> eatures would you hope to see? What is the desired UX? We can also adapt it for educational/entertainment content as well. Just thinking out loud is all. I would love to hear some feedback though. Long live MONERO!!!!
11:55:31 <m-relay> <k​aizer:hackliberty.org> I made this post in the other monero channel and just reposting here cause I was told some people might be interested here as well. Just let me know what you guys think. Thanks
13:31:20 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> How is it related with Monero ?
13:31:46 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> anyway, sounds cool, tho I might not use it
13:32:08 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> What we talking about?
13:38:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Payment delays
13:39:34 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Oh lol
13:39:48 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Considering giving plowsof some funds?
13:39:52 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Good idea
13:40:24 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Unless he rugs 👀
13:44:21 <plowsof> i will definitely rug. core have other options. me custodying ~10xmr wont have much an effect in the grand scheme of things, it would only delay issues from being solved correctly by core
13:52:54 <dukenukem> I wouldn't trust plowsof with even 0.01 XMR. Questionable character.
13:53:08 <dukenukem> He might buy biscuits with that loot!
16:14:53 <m-relay> <s​ilverpill:poa.st> Tools for building personalized ActivityPub sites already exist. One notable example is Wordpress which has a well-maintained ActivityPub plugin.
16:14:53 <m-relay> <s​ilverpill:poa.st> Is there some specific feature you want to see implemented?
16:14:54 <m-relay> <s​ilverpill:poa.st> If you're interested in Monero + ActivityPub working together, check out my project https://codeberg.org/silverpill/mitra
17:46:22 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> uhm
17:46:26 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/vLdAegZXnNlAXqDJObsttKRW
17:46:44 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> plowsof:
17:47:13 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> we might want to get this guy his funds back
17:49:02 <nioc> oh my
17:49:59 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> imagine how lucky you have to be that the wrong address you copied is the gf wallet
17:50:19 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> that's like, the only one where he has a chance of getting the funds back
17:50:36 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> he will definitely get every piconero back if he can prove payment
17:50:55 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> might want to tell him
17:50:55 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://www.reddit.com/r/monerosupport/comments/17j1iww/sent_to_wrong_adress/
17:51:55 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nah
17:52:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> No way to get funds back
17:52:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> broke lm TOS
17:52:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not supposed to use wallets you dont own
17:52:21 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> how is that?
17:52:37 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ppl do it all the time
17:52:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Mostly scammers who dont want any connection with the trade
17:53:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Use exchange wallets etc
17:53:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Or houdiniswap
17:53:35 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> you are aware that you can just use any monero wallet to "not be connected" to the trade right
17:53:46 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> thanks monerobull
17:54:02 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> i dont think this guy planned to send 17k to the general fund in order to wash his money
17:54:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Uh
17:54:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> When you buy on lm, you have to confirm your address
17:54:38 <selsta> sent from localmonero to general fund means he won't be able to prove it? or how does localmonero wallet work?
17:54:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> lm can prove it if he still has his acct
17:55:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> The wallet address is tied to the transaction and cant be changes after you begin the trade
17:55:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> The user must enter it themself, and confirm that its _their own_ wallet before proceeding
17:56:19 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ofrn that guy clearly just fucked up
17:58:59 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk: can you help look into this situation? does local monero hold the keys of the wallet that made that transaction?
17:59:34 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> imaging being new to some crypto, making a costly mistake and getting top notch customer service from the community and your money back
18:00:00 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> incorrect donations have been refunded in the past
18:02:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/YHlFnFqUZkfCxTHgGrbJbeLU
18:03:09 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ofrn jesus christ not everyone is involved in some conspiracy
18:05:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nah, just the 10k "mistakes".
18:05:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> either way, they didnt send the funds, the money should only be refunded to the localmonero acct it was purchased from
18:06:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (Not the seller, the wallet address of the buyer)
18:06:27 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://cointelegraph.com/news/gitcoin-sends-treasury-gtc-tokens-wrong-address-frozen
18:06:59 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Nah this never ever happens
18:07:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> localmonero* Wallet addr
18:07:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Thats a typo
18:07:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not a "i entered 90 chars wrong"
18:07:30 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> everyone is guilty until proven innocent, do not trust verify!
18:08:01 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> if they made the mistake, they will be able to prove it was sent from their account
18:08:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Right
18:10:42 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> so atm we need alex to tell us the next steps
18:13:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Alex doesnt have anything to do with it
18:13:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> User needs to provide rhe settlement proof from their acct
18:13:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Chrck dm
18:14:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Im not posting mine here
21:40:10 <m-relay> <a​tomfried:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/tTNbPrKbHaTDtGKlZgvdQbNG
21:40:10 <m-relay> <a​tomfried:matrix.org> what trading pattern is this?
22:04:01 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> damn
22:04:10 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> quantum tunnel trading
22:18:58 <m-relay> <a​tomfried:matrix.org> monero started bending time, get ready
22:25:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> The "reprice it, hurry" ?
22:25:26 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/EkVgDbbtDVreOfqWixWUtBjb
22:25:27 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> so is this the bullrun
22:28:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I think its just monero coming out of hibernation
22:28:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> So.. bear run?
22:28:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yeah, bears running (away) haha. 
22:28:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> My jokes are the funniest.
22:32:54 <nioc> m​onerobull what did I say in off topic not long ago?
22:33:19 <nioc> just the preliminaries now
22:33:33 <nioc> I believe in the cargo cult
22:50:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> @ nioc #monero
22:52:10 <nioc> I think you mean offtopic  :)
22:56:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Oh no, i mean markets
22:57:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> But were having an offtopic/market chat in monero if youd like to join me 🤣 jk
22:57:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ban
22:58:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (im serious though. Theres an offtopic/market chat going on in #monero. Dont ask me how i know. I definitely wasnt involved 🙈)
23:00:27 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> offtopic in ontopic channels is a capital offense punishable by death
23:00:35 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> plowsof: get the chair ready