00:58:44 Nobody elected you. It is arrogant to claim that your "soft feeling" is speaking for "the community". But lets assume it does. What "the community" thinks is stupid and stands in the way of what needs to be done. Look at the way kaya had to work in quiet for example. Because it was clear that his proposal would have never been accepted had he announced his work beforehand and trie 00:58:44 d to convince "the community". 01:02:03 because it gives you a chance to taunt people. 01:02:47 you know you can fork the project if you wish right 01:03:09 just like the original core team members did. no one needs to “elect” you to do that 01:03:31 if you dont like it the way it is you can leave 01:03:36 get out 01:04:24 in all seriousness, "just let developers take individual donations" is no solution 01:04:24 who said this is a democracy anyway. most people are dumb, I don’t want ofrn and friends determining the future of the project 01:05:49 It is a better solution than sending all the money to luigi. 01:05:54 you’re bitching and moaning like someone is forcing you to be here or is imposing their will on you 01:06:16 when it’s actually you trying to impose your will on everyone else 01:06:21 just shut your mouth for a second you are not productive. 01:06:30 nonsense 01:06:38 well yes I hope we do something besides "send all the money to luigi" going forward but that doesn't imply demolishing the CCS 01:06:49 if you dont like it the way it is you can leave <<>> are you talking to yourself? 01:07:06 give me my paycheque 3 months up front in advance and see what happens to my motivation levels 01:07:14 he’s rephrasing what I said about forking the project 01:07:17 as i suggested the other day... y'all should just give me the ccs. I know how to opsec a wallet 01:07:31 spadin that'sa what I said too dude lol 01:07:37 ah, yet seems to fit 01:07:41 See the money, Take the money (and do no work or work on something else that provide more money, easy) 01:08:09 then it is settled... Lyza and I hold the new ccs with 2/2 multisig 01:08:13 so you wouldnt be motivated to work if you got the money up front? not a good look. 01:08:35 we're not sure the multisig is working :D but I'm sure we can sort out something 01:08:53 Can we have a 30/40 multisig? 01:08:53 I can be one of the signer :) 01:08:55 anyone who suggests multi sig - follow this guide with 2 of your friends https://monerodocs.org/multisignature/ 01:08:56 "not sure that the multisig is working"...? :skull: what the fuck 01:09:24 oh yeah XMR multi sig is hella fucky is part of why it was jsut like.... held in a wallet 01:09:35 hey what do you guys think like, Kraken does 01:09:47 with their cold storage 01:09:48 there goes one of the modules i had planned for my project then rofl if there's no multisig 01:10:01 Kraken has an excellent setup from what I know 01:10:05 spadin now your project is fix multisig :D 01:10:05 but don't remember the details 01:10:18 maybe they can share it with us heh 01:10:28 > so you wouldnt be motivated to work if you got the money up front? not a good look. 01:10:29 how is it not a good luck to be honest? 01:10:30 but the person responsible for monero seemed really knowledgable 01:10:35 look* 01:11:07 I mean they must have the same issue, they also can't just trust the keys to like, some employee 01:11:17 I guess they can physically share a space 01:11:23 must be nice 01:11:52 i'm not cryptographer ;-; i'd be the last person to figure it out 01:11:57 girls and boys. one of two people leaked the seed and/or made off with a bunch of money. it’s either fluffypony or luigi. lower the attack surface by removing fluffy’s access and get back to business. very high likelihood that solves the problem. no reason to reinvent the wheel. 01:12:02 wanna be my friend? ❤️ 01:12:02 jk 01:12:14 if i handed any one of you amount of money, are you coming to work on monday if you have a slight headache? 01:12:42 I mean if it's something I give a shit about yeah of course 01:12:44 back to volunteering* 01:12:49 plowsof I would still be here shitposting 01:13:00 But 01:13:06 They dont even shitpost 01:13:23 And are gone for lentgtht periods 01:13:32 They dont _want_ to be present 01:13:43 Not sure why were calling water wet 01:13:52 i'd go to work anyway lol can't have coworkers thinking you a lil bitch 01:14:01 so if people sent you donations up front you would just leave / not work? 01:14:04 Im hiring 01:14:16 Anybody that wants to work for free, dm me 01:14:19 Else u a lil bitch 01:14:21 Lot of people would 01:14:25 (Says spadin) 01:14:51 if people gave me 3 months up front , i would have less motivation than if the funds where kept in an escrow (with checks and balances when its time to claim a payout) 01:14:54 oh wait i thought i was still getting a minimum wage 01:14:56 hell no then LOL 01:15:06 plowsof is a liar 01:15:08 i would slowly transform into a greedy evil person 01:15:15 Mr 50% rate cutting 01:15:23 he doesnt know how to be greedy 01:15:29 Or even collect his own milestones 01:15:51 my ego would inflate too 01:15:57 then dont give these people money we dont need them. There are enough people that have proven to be committed to the cause by the amount of work they did without any compensation. 01:16:11 Plowsof doesnt have an ego hahaha. Funny guy 01:16:56 so therefore we need the CCS? because we have a CCS coordinator that would not work otherwise? 01:17:21 Plowsof is a liar 01:17:24 Didnt i just say thay 01:17:29 He works for free 01:17:32 Then for free 01:17:33 Then for free 01:17:35 he just puts simlies everywhere thats his job 01:17:46 Then collects 50% of pay and feels bad 01:17:55 Not even close 01:18:01 He does a lot of work for mrl 01:18:28 Bp++ ccs arent simple yknow 01:18:44 what is "simlies" (smilies?) 01:19:52 me meant similes 01:20:01 🐒 01:20:35 token-based governance system for ccs maybe? tari has tokens on monero we could use that no? 01:20:51 Spiro, yknow whats funnt (repky to money emoji) 01:20:57 Tari is in alpha lol 01:21:08 and is not "on monero" but entirely seperate 01:21:10 Bp++ ccs vs geonics 01:21:17 Same price lololololol 01:21:25 damn it 01:21:38 Sarang gets paid less than geo lolololololoooooooll 01:21:40 fucking chatgpt's gaslighting about tari keeps getting worse 01:21:57 conflict of interest for a core team member to run a project like this 01:22:03 but it is dead anyway i guess 01:22:05 Nah 01:22:06 tari is being released eoy 2020 01:22:14 the time for mimble wimble projects has come and gone 01:22:15 Core team doesnt do anything else 01:22:18 and gamers hate crypto 01:22:23 it is over 01:22:29 give me 3 months up front then ask me to review this https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2199 01:22:39 see how my motivation levels are 01:22:40 I understand, all the gaming corp that tried to push scams (NFTs) 01:22:42 K 01:22:53 "ill do it tomorrow" 01:22:54 Youll review it in3 days 01:22:57 Stop lying 01:22:58 Hahaha 01:23:28 youll literally work your ass off and then burn yourself out trying to prove yourself 01:23:47 fantasy to think youd get paid and not dobthe work 01:23:56 You dont twice the work and still dont ask 01:24:01 You do* 01:24:06 in the short term, yes, but money/funds does things to people 01:24:36 yes... things... like private yatchs full of women 01:24:59 Can I get XMR so I can spend more time making proper monero node on HDD using SSD cache benchmark and tutorials? 01:25:00 Yea. Ppl think they own ya 01:25:06 But ofrn doesnt have a price 01:28:45 so is anyone actively working on monero rn or what's the deal? 01:28:55 yes 01:29:08 thank god ok 01:29:10 good 01:29:32 cause u know the feds working too on trynna fuck with it 01:29:45 https://github.com/monero-project/monero 01:30:09 now i will review that -site PR tomorrow 😒 01:30:15 Plenty of work being done 01:30:24 BEFORE GETTING PAID 01:30:28 MR ISNT EVEN MERGED 01:30:50 Dont make me get my whip 01:31:51 Nobody elected you. It is arrogant to claim that your "soft feeling" is speaking for "the community". <= if the community won't speak, what is your view of the appropriate action to take? 01:32:22 🤔 01:34:27 you can always ask me luigi 01:34:32 h/j 01:37:27 Mayb im on ignore 01:40:26 <123bob123:matrix.org> cant 01:43:09 <123bob123:matrix.org> i would like to nominate myself as monero ceo, as fluffy as stepped down 01:44:47 <123bob123:matrix.org> i would like to nominate myself as monero ceo, as fluffy has stepped down 01:52:09 Id like to nominate geonic 01:52:42 admit that the community does not know. 01:53:04 Who doesnt speak? 01:53:06 that it is out of answers 01:53:10 Idk what hes talking about 01:53:50 bro you cant hear the voices? 01:53:52 Word salad 01:53:58 whats up with that? 01:56:25 "if the community wont speak" 01:56:25 Bruh, we dont stfu 01:56:47 I have like 20 alts on every continent going wild 28hrs a day 8 days a week, + weekends 01:56:56 Wont speak.. 01:57:23 The only one not speaking was the silent 60 days where community asked for their moolah and were met with radio silence 01:58:38 "community doesnt speak" 01:58:38 Opposite day 01:58:49 More like we dont stfu 01:59:08 <123bob123:matrix.org> you use fluffy chat? 01:59:39 Not anymore 02:01:51 spirobel fork off!!!! https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-back/-/commit/6694cc88857ef27b6ca9f0188ba288f037c75788 :D 02:05:31 I will never leave. You are stuck with me. 🤣 02:09:24 I will never leave. You are stuck in here with me. 🤣 02:24:48 More like we dont stfu <= come to consensus is what I meant 02:25:05 that it is out of answers <= ok so just leave them in ideas? 02:28:50 We came to consensus 02:28:57 Absolute trash 02:29:26 9 downvotes is a DOA proposal 02:29:28 8* 02:30:34 Upvotes by people who were 02:30:34 a) involved in the making 02:30:35 b) were involved before the ccs was created 02:30:35 c) cant read titles or pay attn to the fact that the ccs title is fkn lie 02:30:54 And 02:30:55 d) fake accounts 02:30:56 Arent upvotes 02:31:29 Midi says we weigh votes. If we did, it was 1-8 or 2-8 02:32:49 Anyway, old, irrelevant news about a shit stain on 2023 ccs record. "featuring monero" 02:32:50 someone, please, tell me where 02:33:52 Ccs is only a charity for some ppl. We reject trash proposals all the time, somehow this one cant be rejected. Was an auto merge from before it was posted 02:34:48 Song and dance about community support didnt work, so just merged it 02:34:48 paid him milestones where were just paying his bills, and then milestones for winnig shit awards 02:34:52 The ccs WAS TRASH 02:35:01 which proposal was this about? 02:35:16 Geonics movie 02:35:39 We came to consensus <= I'm not talking to you 02:35:51 you two are accusing me of opposite things more or less 02:37:24 Ah, well.. what i said still stands 02:37:36 Still talking about this?! 02:37:40 Lol 02:38:21 Re spirobel - i know spirobel doesnt like ccs 02:38:57 But thats neither here nor there 02:39:17 > spirobel fork off!!!! https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-back/-/commit/6694cc88857ef27b6ca9f0188ba288f037c75788 :D 02:39:17 Is all there is to say abt it 02:39:47 Cant really ask someone to stop doing something that has nothing w do with you 02:41:07 Tl: spirobel cant tell ccs what to do, when spirobel has nothing to do with ccs. It would be like us telling litecoin to stop their blockchain 02:41:16 Like ok. Thanks for your input. 02:42:05 what is the purpose of consensus if it stops people from doing stuff and money still gets lost? 04:17:17 +3 xmr donation to the general fund 😭 thank you https://nitter.net/WatchFund/status/1720948930395926532 04:38:35 <123bob123:matrix.org> Let us know if you see 2k xmr 06:49:12 thinking of doing another movie ccs just to see ofrn implode 06:49:25 😄 06:53:18 lel 06:53:30 it would be funny, if you werent just chirping drunk again 06:53:37 AA 06:54:11 This idiot thinks i care about him or his movie 06:54:40 plenty more scum where he csme from, hes not the first, the last, or the largest pos around either 06:55:23 has nothing to do with geo or his movie 06:56:18 And everything to do with shitheads who trt to abuse the ccs 06:57:11 You didnt slip through the cracks, you were smuggled in the back door 06:58:12 So how bout ya just stfu, damn drunkard 06:59:51 What pisses me off about geo, is that he literally has 0 to add to any conversation in this room 07:00:12 Fuckin casually drops drunk texts at 3am every weekend 07:00:20 lmao my movie has been living in your mind rent-free for the last 6+ months 07:00:24 But sure, you don’t care about it :) 07:00:35 and lives in a fantast where his ccs is honest, and the movie features monero 07:00:49 Nah, it hasnt 07:00:55 I live under your bed 07:01:08 thats another fucked up trait of yours 07:01:14 You project onto everyone 07:02:18 Fkn head case 07:03:22 oFRn iS UsINg AlTs 07:03:23 Hi oFrN #65257 07:04:22 can u blame me for thinking you do? you’re talking to yourself even now 07:04:36 R ya stupid? 07:04:40 Yes i blame you for thinking ibdo 07:04:46 Youre a damn retard 07:05:07 Walls of text by the same demented spambot, day after day 07:05:12 You cosigned for mj accusing me of bein an alt over a year ago, fkn loser 07:05:29