08:23:04 <m-relay> <r​une_door:matrix.org> whats the best IRC chat to use in android right now?
09:05:28 <sech1> https://thelounge.chat/ is good, it even has push notifications
09:16:35 <plowsof> +1 for thelounge 
10:44:52 <dEBRUYNE> Anyone familiar with this company? https://twitter.com/DFX_Swiss/status/1726678380899397733
10:54:57 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://dfx.swiss/
11:23:58 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Once you exceed the above limit, a KYC process is required. After the first successful transaction, there is an option in the app to complete the personal verification (KYC). If the KYC is not completed after exceeding the limit, DFX will automatically return the transaction after 7 days.
11:24:10 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> seems like sane KYC requirements
11:26:35 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> lol at the line command
11:26:43 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/XBZVJCAMHDoLWGGWVCLWunrL
11:27:25 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> the inconsistency is funny
11:27:30 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/kPBPtMCANoiTreaItowNqmEi
11:28:47 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> you have to sign messages :P "By_signing_this_message,_you_confirm_that_you_are_the_sole_owner_of_the_provided_Blockchain_address._Your_ID:_"
11:54:04 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> Yep..we pushed them to support monero with the promise of adding them to Cake and Monerocom .  So you’ll see them in cake and Monerocom  soon.
11:55:12 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> cool
11:55:13 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> they seem decent
13:46:09 <dEBRUYNE> vikrants: You will support their token I presume?
14:41:43 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> What token?
14:56:57 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> why would this fiat payment gateway have a token
14:59:02 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> what is the limit?
15:01:57 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> it will probably tell you when seriously doing a swap
15:02:09 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> but i cant find any numbers without it
15:42:20 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> 1000 Euros by wire or sepa.
15:42:49 <nioc> under their T&C for "light" KYC ... "Transfers of cryptocurrencies to an unverified public address are not accepted."
15:43:59 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> let me find out what "unverified public address" means.
15:44:07 <nioc> 1000 euros per day, week, month, year or lifetime ?
15:45:07 <nioc> "Registration is basically done via the blockchain address, specifying the customer's email or phone number."   
15:45:08 <nioc> huh
15:45:34 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> asked to clarify
15:48:25 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> So they want to know ho is behind each address
15:48:53 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> So you have to kyc for each address or you have to always use the same
15:48:54 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> sus
15:49:20 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> 1000 Euros per every 24 hours.  no monthly limit.
15:49:20 <nioc> full KYC can happen "at DFX's request at any time without giving any reason.'
15:51:06 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> If you refuse KYC, they will refund.
15:51:48 <dEBRUYNE> vikrants: From DFX, but I suppose you will use them as change provider / service
15:52:58 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> Yeah they will be an option like we do now with onramper, moonpay, etc.
15:55:16 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> Regarding "verified address", they use your blockchain address as username and a digital signature of a text message as password.
15:59:01 <nioc> murica is not on their list of countries served
15:59:53 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> Right.. this is only for europe in Euros and Swiss Francs
16:00:34 <nioc> then why am I reading the T&C b4 the FAQs?  lolol
16:01:31 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> that's europeans for ya!
16:02:09 <nioc> I went to T&C first, silly me 
16:22:04 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> Donation time!  Sent $1000 to Pokkst and $3000 to Stack Wallet all in XMR of course!   Why? We all have to support the Monero ecosystem!
16:24:45 <nioc> wen I search pokkst everything I see is bcash
16:25:16 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> They you are looking at the wrong pokkst.  He is the maker of mysu monero wallet.
16:25:17 <nioc> I looked for a few seconds
16:25:24 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> or "she".. dunno
16:25:27 <nioc> thx  :)
16:26:05 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> Then you are looking at the wrong pokkst.  He is the maker of mysu monero wallet.
16:27:00 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> vik (Cake): pokkst worked on BCH for years
16:27:32 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> ok and?
16:27:35 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> :)
16:27:48 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> kidding.. thanks for informing me :)
16:27:57 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> You said that "you are looking at the wrong pokkst." It's the same pokkst
16:28:01 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> Ok :)
16:28:31 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> I know.. I'm in good mood :)
16:28:52 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> Thanks for helping support devs 👍️
16:29:02 <m-relay> <v​ikrants:monero.social> Then you are looking at the wrong pokkst.  He is the maker of mysu monero wallet.   UPDATE: I have been corrected.
17:26:31 <m-relay> <c​x_:matrix.org> Is there a theoretical/suggested limit to the maximum amount of sub address my wallet could have
17:28:23 <selsta> theoretical limit is 2^32
17:28:31 <selsta> but real limit is how much RAM you have
17:35:12 <m-relay> <c​x_:matrix.org> Do you have any idea how many sub addresses a wallet would be able to have with  8/16gb of ram. I assume it's only indexing the addresses or creating a new address which would consume ram rather than just storing them as I thought they wouldn't all always be in RAM
17:38:03 <selsta> I don't know what you mean with storing
17:38:26 <selsta> The more subaddresses get scanned for new transactions, the more RAM is required
17:38:40 <selsta> I think 8-16GB is more than enough for more subaddresses than you will ever be able to use
17:59:11 <m-relay> <c​x_:matrix.org> Hypothetically at a million sub addresses for example would the delay become noticeable
18:01:15 <plowsof> A hypothetical quantum computer would have no delay 
18:37:10 <m-relay> <r​une_door:matrix.org> Is Trezor still good to use?
18:39:52 <m-relay> <c​x_:matrix.org> I was more so referring to a hypothetical 8/16gb computer
18:51:56 <selsta> delay in what? it only increases RAM usage, it doesn't increase sync time
18:52:22 <selsta> creating the subaddresses initially takes some time but once they are created they only use RAM, don't need extra sync time
20:49:09 <m-relay> <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> Have you missed 17th's MoneroTopia?
20:49:10 <m-relay> <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> You can get a recap here: https://monero.town/post/1172650