18:21:29 <m-relay> <t​esta:cthd.icu> Does a monero node just use TCP for the p2p port, or should UDP be opened as well?
18:22:12 <selsta> TCP only
19:06:09 <m-relay> <t​esta:cthd.icu> thanks
19:33:04 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Has anyone thought about making a service where you pay in hashes? Something like a paid API where you mine and get creds or something.
19:33:53 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Might not be profitable but fun as an experiment
19:34:35 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> There was the pay for rpc thingy right?
19:45:28 <m-relay> <l​ukeprofits:matrix.org> Nicehash?
20:34:39 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> https://web.archive.org/web/20231006185124/https://www.monerooutreach.org/stories/RPC-Pay.html
20:44:24 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> I thought of that a while ago
20:44:39 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Pay as you rpc
20:48:08 <plowsof> Turn rpc nodes into wikipedia 
20:51:07 <plowsof> After syncing 1000 blocks you have to watch 2 unskippable adverts 
20:51:51 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Thats the free version
20:52:02 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Pay to have no ads
20:52:20 <plowsof> Random high fee for the free loaders!
20:52:56 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Then have tiers for sync speeds
20:53:34 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Dan’s ideas©️
20:53:46 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Patent pending
20:54:02 <m-relay> <s​weetbearkiller:monero.social> plowsof and dan doing hash as you rpc
20:54:47 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Doing a different hash
20:54:49 <m-relay> <s​weetbearkiller:monero.social> ppl would mine with botnets lmao
20:56:20 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> RPC pay is being removed due to complexity and no one using it. Primo was supposed to be a general use of the pay-with-hashes idea: https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/11752/what-is-primo-private-monero-payments
20:57:51 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> New website captcha
20:59:21 <plowsof> Services with paywalls suck
21:00:12 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Monero gui with built in ads
21:00:53 <dsc_> hot local monero users in your area
21:00:54 <plowsof> #controversial lol i think the realistic concern ive seen is that blockchain surveillance companies will just host free to use high performance nodes without any of this
21:01:43 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Scaled wrong
22:02:25 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> No. 👺 It never was. (IMO)
22:07:00 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> Wrong emoji lol
22:08:33 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> LMAO one could use the ad rev to fund CCS LOL
22:09:34 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> hot local monerochans in your area FTFY
22:11:41 <m-relay> <r​une_door:matrix.org> Oh ok lol, what else should you use then?
22:19:13 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> I wanted to use 🙅‍♂️ because he was talking about a HW wallet. Best HW wallet is an airgapped Tails on a 10 y/o thinkpad.
22:23:48 <m-relay> <r​une_door:matrix.org> Oh ok, could you run that on something like Proxmox?
22:38:12 <m-relay> <r​une_door:matrix.org> Is this what I would use with an offline device? https://airgap.it/offline-device/
22:45:45 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> No. What I did to safely create an xmr wallet was as follows.
22:45:45 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> 1. I used a live boot of ubuntu on a laptop not connected to the internet
22:45:46 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> 2. I generated seeds, noted down the seeds, address and viewkey
22:45:46 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> 3. I generated a view only wallet on my desktop connected to the internet
22:45:47 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> 4. I bought some XMR from LM, got it sent to my XMR wallet. Confirmed that I received it using my hot viewonľy wallet
22:46:13 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> I did all this so I can be sure that my seeds are not exposed to the internet.
22:47:39 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> I do not trust HW wallets because even buying them increases the chances of going on a list.
22:50:05 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> If you really want to use a mobile app I coukd reco Anonnero.. Using anything else just broadens the attack surface.
22:52:21 <m-relay> <r​une_door:matrix.org> Ok I see, which view only wallet do you use for destkop?
22:53:36 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> I used monero-wallet-cli from getmonero.
22:53:36 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> I think the gui wallet can also be used for view only.
22:56:10 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> I later etched my seeds on think stainless steel card and buried it in my garden lol
22:56:26 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> Think -> thick
22:56:26 <dsc_> cool idea, where do you live?
22:58:00 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> @dsc_ huh?!
22:58:23 <m-relay> <r​une_door:matrix.org> Oh wow, how do you use your XMR though when you want to pull it out?
22:58:47 <m-relay> <r​une_door:matrix.org> Like if you see something on your phone on monero markets?
22:59:54 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> I dont want to pull it out before my children finish college.
23:00:32 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> I do have a hot wallet with a few millineros on my iPhone.
23:01:27 <m-relay> <r​une_door:matrix.org> Ok for hot wallet whats good to use, Cake wallet?
23:02:41 <m-relay> <s​njay:mozilla.org> Yea.
23:50:09 <m-relay> <r​une_door:matrix.org> Is there a minimum  you like to keep on a hot wallet? Say like 1k maybe?