12:28:18 XMR banned from exchanges in OZ. Best route to cash in? Purchase USDC for fiat then swap? 12:31:12 OZ? 12:32:16 OZ = Australia. 12:41:12 trocador.app to swap 12:41:12 or localmonero perhaps 12:41:15 localmonero.co 12:43:59 LTC is also always a easy low fee swap. Localmonero is usually my choice. Very reliable. 12:46:23 https://odysee.com/monero-(xmr)-review-ist-monero-ein-sh#2143fab61d5716b5c3ce00b865fc447409ce8f50 12:46:33 Wtf monero is a shitcoin?? Ahahah 12:47:52 "Tail-emission" is a death sentence for xmr 12:48:03 "Tail-emission is a death sentence for xmr" 12:48:16 😂 12:49:34 he also says that rather go with the 'sinking ship' Monero, it is better to wait for Bitcoin to adopt privacy features 12:50:05 Yes hahaa 12:50:07 which is something Bitcoin people keep telling me for 5+ years, I wonder when that will happen 'huh 12:50:13 He's saying we should rather develop on btc.. 12:50:32 And he says you can be anonymous with dysfunctional lighting 12:51:25 He even disregarded this himself by arguing hard forks are bad for a chain. And the ground layer should be solid. But he is arguing you can build privacy on top? 12:51:36 its interesting how he ignores the obvious flaws in Bitcoin and refuses to acknowledge that what Monero solves 12:52:28 He even says at the end that xmr is second best but still a shitcoin. Man for these guys the only real coin is btc and that's it 14:28:42 plowsof - banhammer needs to be signed by the user 14:29:04 For the same reason police have badge numbers 14:30:15 tech9 is in resolutions wondering why he was banned by banhammer. Of course mods aren't responding. 14:30:59 Also, you have to join on matrix. M-relay is to be banned if invited to that room 14:47:53 "asic resistance is only temporary" 14:48:25 say that you don't know shit about randomX without saying that you dont know shit 16:28:01 They shared CP. There's no "multiple warnings" for that 17:05:18 I'm not defending CP 17:05:57 Make it sound as if I knew anything beyond the reason given by banhammer 17:46:20 does anybody object if i create an adhoc meeting to discuss all outstanding meta issues that arent CCS related? I'll moderate. 17:54:21 we could first raise a few in the normal community meeting for which the meeting template accounts for. Lets see if there is ample time to cover them (with the recent CCS wallet issue somewhat resolved, we're just waiting for merges) , any meta issues in particular? 17:56:36 No. I think there is enough already with CCS meetings, and some of the current meta issue will take a while. 17:57:28 It's cleaner (i think) to seperate CCS issues from -community issues. 17:57:46 Unless of course there is a direct link (like the CCS wallet issue) 17:59:42 we'd have to visit the "define labels for -meta" issue https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/90 18:03:04 a "Discussion" list would be created, and judged 18:05:07 I don't think meta issues have been labelled that much, to be honest. We can add all non CCS related meta issues to this adhoc meeting, and then discuss them. If people feel the issue should be moved to a CCS meeting, they can do that. 18:05:30 Or at least propose that, and provide a justification 18:05:58 When is the next CCS meeting plowsof? 18:06:38 (i can't see an agenda anywhere) 18:08:27 there is a community meeting slot on the 23rd , not yet confirmed 18:10:13 not sure on everyone's availability 18:11:37 wen CCS wallet v2.0 luigi1111 18:14:01 Ok. So 30th December or 13th January 2024 are available dates? 18:15:11 yes 18:39:01 If midi is "meta-coordinator", lol 18:41:13 ok. I am tempted to schedule for 30th of December, as it would be nice to make forward progress on some before we start a new year 18:41:45 If i make the issue later, it gives almost two weeks for people to organise/gather what info they feel they need 18:42:12 You should bring up the idea at a community meeting to be voted on 18:42:19 Should be split 18:42:26 And should midi be in charge of meta 18:42:37 If were voting now 18:42:50 next community meeting is 23th, right? 18:42:52 Other and no 18:44:21 i don't think i need to bring up the idea of a community meeting at a community meeting 18:44:30 That's really not efficient 18:44:32 Yes you do 18:44:38 No i don5 18:44:42 *don't 18:44:49 Youre just making up meetings on your own now? 18:44:51 plowof please add to your meeting list: "how to deal with pending meta issues, midipoet volunteered to nmoderate an extra meeting" 18:44:57 plowof please add to your meeting list: "how to deal with pending meta issues, midipoet volunteered to moderate an extra meeting" 18:45:21 And youre deciding what we discuss and / resolve on your own now? 18:45:35 +1 ct 18:45:54 ofrnxmr: no. The agenda would be decided by community. I would post a version 1 and ask people to comment if they want to add anything. 18:46:12 "add" rm -rf midipoet 18:46:21 there are 7 days inbetween the community meeting and your proposed date. plenty of time to prepare for anyone who wants to participate 18:46:22 Sure. Create a meta issue! 18:46:55 No 18:47:09 Why would i do anything that YOU moderate? 18:47:09 Will post 23rd meeting / add to agenda ceetee EOD 18:47:17 You got me banned for a witch hunt 18:47:27 now you want to moderate meetings about witch hunts 18:47:31 thanks plowsof 18:48:24 You vote up things for your friends, and accuse people who deliver evidence and facts of being gatekeepers 18:49:07 You think retroactive funding for CODE is the same thing as for policy larping 18:49:40 you're not unbiased, and you cant even act like it 18:50:37 imho moderators must be impartial, the vote is not about whether meta issues should be resolved but rather if the community wants you to be the moderator for that 18:50:43 You're not even taking on this initiative because there is work to do. Its because you want to control the outcome and silence gatekeepers 18:50:45 "gatekeepers" 18:51:20 Ceetee, that was my "other" 18:51:20 id almost be ok with a 2hr long meeting 18:51:38 ctrej: to be honest i don't think 7 days is long enough. I'll post a proposed agenda for the 30th, and then if people think it's necessary to vote on whether to have meeting on the 30th, they can vote on the 23rd. 18:52:07 #monero-midicommunity 18:52:15 Lol 18:52:17 ctrej: fair enough. I'll post the agenda and then people can decide on whether it's ok for me to moderate. Sound fair? 18:52:32 How? 18:52:38 You cant make the agenda 18:52:56 the agenda is just going to be a list of outstanding non-CCS issues 18:52:59 well i guess you can 18:53:05 Probably ordered oldest to newest 18:53:08 And you can throw whatever party you want 18:53:13 It's not fucking rocket science 18:53:23 What matters is if we respect your decisions 18:53:55 "Probably" sounds like something you haven't thought of yet 18:53:58 sure, but at least Core can see there has been a meeting and then adjudicate where there isn't consensus (if required). 18:54:09 core aint shit 18:54:20 Who cares what core sees or even pays attn to 18:54:32 "core can veto!!" 18:54:42 can you even name em? 18:55:13 Core is dissolving, isbt that a meta issue 18:55:21 Fluffy resigning , another meta issue 18:55:53 Midi, lets go, we need to resolve them 18:55:56 Rofl 18:56:00 Theyre meta for a reason 18:58:28 it's a mess midi. that's why we need to talk about it at the next community meeting 18:59:28 Official colours of the Monero Logo . Lets solve this once and for all 19:00:34 ctrej: i agree. That's why i am trying to get a dedicated meeting to resolve it. 19:00:59 I did also propose that plowsof moderate it, but someone said it wasn't their responsibility 19:01:08 So i proposed to moderate. 19:01:59 a lot of meta issues might not be solvable in a meeting 19:02:03 I don't need to moderate and couldn't really care who does. i just think the issues should be resolved and cleared from the meta repository and any concrete action required to be taken. 19:02:17 ctrej: i get that 19:02:50 But at least we might get to an action point. As it stands the CCS meetings don't get anything resolved and nor does the endless finger wagging 19:03:17 So if we have a dedicated meeting we can post the logs in the issues and try and actually move to get something done 19:05:02 > I did also propose that plowsof moderate it, but someone said it wasn't their responsibility 19:05:02 Liar 19:05:08 You didnt propose shit 19:05:17 You TOLD plowsof to close them 19:05:27 And i told you he doesnt have the power 19:05:47 And closing monerokon meetings is monerokons fucking job 19:05:50 No. I told him to close issues that needed closed. Basically all past meetings 19:06:00 Sir dr monerokon director 19:06:17 All of his past meeting are closed. Are yours? 19:06:23 If you think my intention was to close all issues regardless, then you are mistaken 19:06:27 Maybe wipe your own fucking ass 19:06:31 No 19:06:51 You told him specifically abt monerokon meetings, and i fell out of my chair 19:06:57 All his aren't closed 19:07:09 His meetings? 19:07:48 well, the community meetings issue from the past, no. 19:07:54 <123bob123:matrix.org> The only issues are miss use of the offical email which has evidence but people seem to thing nothings wrong and my one which currently is in play again. 19:08:09 https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/created_by/plowsof 19:08:12 <123bob123:matrix.org> The only issues are miss use of the offical email which has evidence but people seem to think nothings wrong and my one which currently is in play again. 19:08:33 The extended meetings have not reached an end so still open 19:08:42 https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/934 looks open to me (maybe it's closed) 19:09:00 Thats 1 meeting 19:09:07 plowsof: you fucking skacker 19:09:09 You missed a spot 19:09:20 (see midi? It is "you missed a spot") 19:09:31 <123bob123:matrix.org> Its open cause WTF HAPPENED TO THE FUNDS 19:09:49 plowsof: i know, i am just pointing out it's open 19:09:51 Know what though 19:10:21 Monerkon has a bunch 19:10:31 Super fucking slackers 19:11:09 4 meetings in a row 19:11:38 <123bob123:matrix.org> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/879 19:11:38 <123bob123:matrix.org> Pretty sure my evidence would convict 19:11:53 Exactly. be nice if they were closed as well 19:11:59 👩‍🦯 19:12:05 Midi 19:12:21 Anyway, I'll make the agena and then you all can vote on who you want to be moderator. Wouldn't want to annoy the children! 19:12:23 Who is gergely? 19:12:34 *agenda 19:12:40 That does _not_ look like "plowsof" 19:12:40 but maybe im retarded 19:13:08 > Anyway, I'll make the agena and then you all can vote on who you want to be moderator. Wouldn't want to annoy the children! 19:13:08 Vote on if were going to use your ideas at all 19:13:16 How about you contact gergely 19:13:27 <123bob123:matrix.org> How can you close when 19:13:27 <123bob123:matrix.org> 1. No emails where shown to communiry 19:13:28 <123bob123:matrix.org> 2. He still has access to the email 19:13:28 <123bob123:matrix.org> Open case 19:13:31 Instead of larping about closing monerkon meeting issues 19:13:48 > > <@m-relay:monero.social> Exactly. be nice if they were closed as well 19:13:48 > How can you close when 19:13:49 > 1. No emails where shown to communiry 19:13:49 > 2. He still has access to the email 19:13:50 > Open case 19:13:50 You cant. Thats why its meta 19:13:52 <123bob123:matrix.org> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/899 19:13:52 <123bob123:matrix.org> This one keeps people honest i think 19:14:01 Because its in discussion 19:14:20 > https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/899 19:14:20 > This one keeps people honest i think 19:14:21 This is supposed to be on events meeting agenda now too 19:14:32 #telegrambotgate 19:15:08 i assume its on the agenda, nit for censorship, but for trending #permbanofrn 19:15:38 <123bob123:matrix.org> This here is why fluffy as played his cards well 19:15:43 <123bob123:matrix.org> Lets create working groups instead of core 19:15:59 Midi the liar claims im not welcoming 19:16:06 <123bob123:matrix.org> Sure if people can agree not to fck other people ovwr 19:16:14 I think thats a question for the new folks. 19:17:16 im not welcoming - to parasites 19:17:43 And im not welcoming to people who want to waste hours of community time on larping 19:17:49 Look at the issues midi wanrs meeting for 19:18:05 Idiot shit. I cant entertain this circus 19:18:37 Ok fine. Let's just leave them open. Ignore me. 19:18:38 Meetibgs?!?! 19:18:41 I did try. 19:18:45 Go comment on the damn issue if its solved 19:18:50 Ping the op to close it 19:19:01 You need 10 people for that?? 19:19:03 plowsof: you can remove the agenda item from the 23rd. It's obviously not needed. 19:19:12 You can close 4 of them rn 19:19:22 Go to events, and tell gerbely to close em 19:20:31 Oh look 19:20:36 Plowsof is already doing the work 19:20:44 <123bob123:matrix.org> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/630 19:20:45 <123bob123:matrix.org> This could be closed 19:20:50 <123bob123:matrix.org> Lol 19:20:51 > Go comment on the damn issue if its solved 19:20:51 https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/191#issuecomment-1859221015 19:20:56 You need a fkn meeting for this?! 19:21:32 ty for bringing to attention, but you ppl keep tellibg me to OPEN A META ISSUE 19:22:12 How bout, no. Id rather close em. 19:22:36 <123bob123:matrix.org> Im a close u! 19:22:48 abd you dont need a meeting to do what plowsof is doing 19:23:00 You need to just do it 19:23:51 Dan r/dark (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate ): https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/232#issuecomment-395659140 19:23:52 <123bob123:matrix.org> He can co ordinate the closing by say post a comment 19:24:35 endogenic https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/281 19:24:42 <123bob123:matrix.org> Competition 19:25:15 <123bob123:matrix.org> Also yes mattermost has a plugin to matrix 19:25:17 sorry? 19:25:22 <123bob123:matrix.org> Better then irc 19:25:31 https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/376#issue-472320751 19:25:31 q and a 19:25:42 Have we even filled out our community christmas cards yet 19:25:48 > sorry? 19:25:48 The issue i linked 19:26:06 ya but what's up 19:26:18 > Also yes mattermost has a plugin to matrix 19:26:18 ASSIGNED 19:26:29 <123bob123:matrix.org> When the office christmas party? 19:26:38 > ya but what's up 19:26:38 Any updated comments? 19:26:39 open, close? status? 19:26:39 <123bob123:matrix.org> Noooooo 19:27:08 Youre right 19:27:12 Let midi moderate 19:27:16 😂 19:27:20 ofrnxmr: on that issue? 19:28:37 it would be FAR more efficient if status updates and info on open meta issues was handled within a meetiny 19:28:41 *meeting 19:29:38 Endogenic yes sir 19:30:04 how would it be more efficient than finishing the job without asking 10 uninvolved persons? 19:30:23 no updates. I'll publish something soon tho. solved the prior issue but now there are some remaining todos 19:30:35 but known quantities 19:30:36