12:28:18 <m-relay> <f​atcontroller:tchncs.de> XMR banned from exchanges in OZ.  Best route to cash in? Purchase USDC for fiat then swap?
12:31:12 <dEBRUYNE> OZ?
12:32:16 <m-relay> <f​atcontroller:tchncs.de> OZ  = Australia.
12:41:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> trocador.app to swap 
12:41:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> or localmonero perhaps
12:41:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> localmonero.co
12:43:59 <m-relay> <i​zzzy:matrix.org> LTC is also always a easy low fee swap. Localmonero is usually my choice. Very reliable.
12:46:23 <m-relay> <u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> https://odysee.com/monero-(xmr)-review-ist-monero-ein-sh#2143fab61d5716b5c3ce00b865fc447409ce8f50
12:46:33 <m-relay> <u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> Wtf monero is a shitcoin?? Ahahah
12:47:52 <m-relay> <u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> "Tail-emission" is a death sentence for xmr
12:48:03 <m-relay> <u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> "Tail-emission is a death sentence for xmr"
12:48:16 <m-relay> <u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> 😂
12:49:34 <dsc_> he also says that rather go with the 'sinking ship' Monero, it is better to wait for Bitcoin to adopt privacy features
12:50:05 <m-relay> <u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> Yes hahaa
12:50:07 <dsc_> which is something Bitcoin people keep telling me for 5+ years, I wonder when that will happen 'huh
12:50:13 <m-relay> <u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> He's saying we should rather develop on btc..
12:50:32 <m-relay> <u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> And he says you can be anonymous with dysfunctional lighting
12:51:25 <m-relay> <u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> He even disregarded this himself by arguing hard forks are bad for a chain. And the ground layer should be solid. But he is arguing you can build privacy on top?
12:51:36 <dsc_> its interesting how he ignores the obvious flaws in Bitcoin and refuses to acknowledge that what Monero solves
12:52:28 <m-relay> <u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> He even says at the end that xmr is second best but still a shitcoin. Man for these guys the only real coin is btc and that's it
14:28:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> plowsof - banhammer needs to be signed by the user
14:29:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> For the same reason police have badge numbers
14:30:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> tech9 is in resolutions wondering why he was banned by banhammer. Of course mods aren't responding.
14:30:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Also, you have to join on matrix. M-relay is to be banned if invited to that room
14:47:53 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> "asic resistance is only temporary"
14:48:25 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> say that you don't know shit about randomX without saying that you dont know shit
16:28:01 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> They shared CP. There's no "multiple warnings" for that
17:05:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I'm not defending CP
17:05:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Make it sound as if I knew anything beyond the reason given by banhammer
17:46:20 <midipoet> does anybody object if i create an adhoc meeting to discuss all outstanding meta issues that arent CCS related? I'll moderate. 
17:54:21 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we could first raise a few in the normal community meeting for which the meeting template accounts for. Lets see if there is ample time to cover them (with the recent CCS wallet issue somewhat resolved, we're just waiting for merges) , any meta issues in particular?
17:56:36 <midipoet> No. I think there is enough already with CCS meetings, and some of the current meta issue will take a while. 
17:57:28 <midipoet> It's cleaner (i think) to seperate CCS issues from -community issues. 
17:57:46 <midipoet> Unless of course there is a direct link (like the CCS wallet issue)
17:59:42 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we'd have to visit the "define labels for -meta" issue https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/90
18:03:04 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> a "Discussion" list would be created, and judged
18:05:07 <midipoet> I don't think meta issues have been labelled that much, to be honest. We can add all non CCS related meta issues to this adhoc meeting, and then discuss them. If people feel the issue should be moved to a CCS meeting, they can do that. 
18:05:30 <midipoet> Or at least propose that, and provide a justification 
18:05:58 <midipoet> When is the next CCS meeting plowsof?
18:06:38 <midipoet> (i can't see an agenda anywhere)
18:08:27 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> there is a community meeting slot on the 23rd , not yet confirmed
18:10:13 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> not sure on everyone's availability
18:11:37 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> wen CCS wallet v2.0 luigi1111
18:14:01 <midipoet> Ok. So 30th December or 13th January 2024 are available dates?
18:15:11 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> yes
18:39:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> If midi is "meta-coordinator", lol
18:41:13 <midipoet> ok. I am tempted to schedule for 30th of December, as it would be nice to make forward progress on some before we start a new year
18:41:45 <midipoet> If i make the issue later, it gives almost two weeks for people to organise/gather what info they feel they need
18:42:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You should bring up the idea at a community meeting to be voted on
18:42:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Should be split
18:42:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And should midi be in charge of meta
18:42:37 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> If were voting now
18:42:50 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> next community meeting is 23th, right?
18:42:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Other and no
18:44:21 <midipoet> i don't think i need to bring up the idea of a community meeting at a community meeting
18:44:30 <midipoet> That's really not efficient 
18:44:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yes you do
18:44:38 <midipoet> No i don5
18:44:42 <midipoet> *don't 
18:44:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Youre just making up meetings on your own now?
18:44:51 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> plowof please add to your meeting list: "how to deal with pending meta issues, midipoet volunteered to nmoderate an extra meeting"
18:44:57 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> plowof please add to your meeting list: "how to deal with pending meta issues, midipoet volunteered to moderate an extra meeting"
18:45:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And youre deciding what we discuss and / resolve on your own now?
18:45:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> +1 ct
18:45:54 <midipoet> ofrnxmr: no. The agenda would be decided by community. I would post a version 1 and ask people to comment if they want to add anything. 
18:46:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> "add" rm -rf midipoet
18:46:21 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> there are 7 days inbetween the community meeting and your proposed date. plenty of time to prepare for anyone who wants to participate
18:46:22 <midipoet> Sure. Create a meta issue!
18:46:55 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> No
18:47:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Why would i do anything that YOU moderate?
18:47:09 <plowsof> Will post 23rd meeting / add to agenda ceetee EOD 
18:47:17 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You got me banned for a witch hunt
18:47:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> now you want to moderate meetings about witch hunts
18:47:31 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> thanks plowsof
18:48:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You vote up things for your friends, and accuse people who deliver evidence and facts of being gatekeepers
18:49:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You think retroactive funding for CODE is the same thing as for policy larping
18:49:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> you're not unbiased, and you cant even act like it
18:50:37 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> imho moderators must be impartial, the vote is not about whether meta issues should be resolved but rather if the community wants you to be the moderator for that
18:50:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You're not even taking on this initiative because there is work to do. Its because you want to control the outcome and silence gatekeepers
18:50:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> "gatekeepers"
18:51:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ceetee, that was my "other"
18:51:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> id almost be ok with a 2hr long meeting
18:51:38 <midipoet> ctrej: to be honest i don't think 7 days is long enough. I'll post a proposed agenda for the 30th, and then if people think it's necessary to vote on whether to have meeting on the 30th, they can vote on the 23rd. 
18:52:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> #monero-midicommunity
18:52:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lol
18:52:17 <midipoet> ctrej: fair enough. I'll post the agenda and then people can decide on whether it's ok for me to moderate. Sound fair?
18:52:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> How?
18:52:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You cant make the agenda
18:52:56 <midipoet> the agenda is just going to be a list of outstanding non-CCS issues
18:52:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> well i guess you can
18:53:05 <midipoet> Probably ordered oldest to newest 
18:53:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And you can throw whatever party you want
18:53:13 <midipoet> It's not fucking rocket science
18:53:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> What matters is if we respect your decisions
18:53:55 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> "Probably" sounds like something you haven't thought of yet
18:53:58 <midipoet> sure, but at least Core can see there has been a meeting and then adjudicate where there isn't consensus (if required).
18:54:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> core aint shit
18:54:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Who cares what core sees or even pays attn to
18:54:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> "core can veto!!"
18:54:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> can you even name em?
18:55:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Core is dissolving, isbt that a meta issue
18:55:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Fluffy resigning , another meta issue
18:55:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Midi, lets go, we need to resolve them
18:55:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Rofl
18:56:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Theyre meta for a reason
18:58:28 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> it's a mess midi. that's why we need to talk about it at the next community meeting
18:59:28 <plowsof> Official colours of the Monero Logo . Lets solve this once and for all
19:00:34 <midipoet> ctrej: i agree. That's why i am trying to get a dedicated meeting to resolve it. 
19:00:59 <midipoet> I did also propose that plowsof moderate it, but someone said it wasn't their responsibility 
19:01:08 <midipoet> So i proposed to moderate. 
19:01:59 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> a lot of meta issues might not be solvable in a meeting
19:02:03 <midipoet> I don't need to moderate and couldn't really care who does. i just think the issues should be resolved and cleared from the meta repository and any concrete action required to be taken. 
19:02:17 <midipoet> ctrej: i get that
19:02:50 <midipoet> But at least we might get to an action point. As it stands the CCS meetings don't get anything resolved and nor does the endless finger wagging 
19:03:17 <midipoet> So if we have a dedicated meeting we can post the logs in the issues and try and actually move to get something done
19:05:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > <m​idipoet> I did also propose that plowsof moderate it, but someone said it wasn't their responsibility 
19:05:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Liar
19:05:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You didnt propose shit
19:05:17 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You TOLD plowsof to close them
19:05:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And i told you he doesnt have the power
19:05:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And closing monerokon meetings is monerokons fucking job
19:05:50 <midipoet> No. I told him to close issues that needed closed. Basically all past meetings
19:06:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Sir dr monerokon director
19:06:17 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> All of his past meeting are closed. Are yours?
19:06:23 <midipoet> If you think my intention was to close all issues regardless, then you are mistaken 
19:06:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Maybe wipe your own fucking ass
19:06:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> No
19:06:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You told him specifically abt monerokon meetings, and i fell out of my chair
19:06:57 <midipoet> All his aren't closed
19:07:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> His meetings?
19:07:48 <midipoet> well, the community meetings issue from the past, no. 
19:07:54 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> The only issues are  miss use of the offical email which has evidence but people seem to thing nothings wrong and my one which currently is in play again.
19:08:09 <plowsof> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/created_by/plowsof
19:08:12 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> The only issues are  miss use of the offical email which has evidence but people seem to think nothings wrong and my one which currently is in play again.
19:08:33 <plowsof> The extended meetings have not reached an end so still open
19:08:42 <midipoet> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/934 looks open to me (maybe it's closed)
19:09:00 <plowsof> Thats 1 meeting 
19:09:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> plowsof:  you fucking skacker
19:09:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You missed a spot
19:09:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (see midi? It is "you missed a spot")
19:09:31 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Its open cause WTF HAPPENED TO THE FUNDS
19:09:49 <midipoet> plowsof: i know, i am just pointing out it's open 
19:09:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Know what though
19:10:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monerkon has a bunch
19:10:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Super fucking slackers
19:11:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 4 meetings in a row
19:11:38 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/879
19:11:38 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Pretty sure my evidence would convict
19:11:53 <midipoet> Exactly. be nice if they were closed as well
19:11:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 👩‍🦯
19:12:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Midi
19:12:21 <midipoet> Anyway, I'll make the agena and then you all can vote on who you want to be moderator. Wouldn't want to annoy the children! 
19:12:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Who is gergely?
19:12:34 <midipoet> *agenda
19:12:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> That does _not_ look like "plowsof"
19:12:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> but maybe im retarded
19:13:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > <m​idipoet> Anyway, I'll make the agena and then you all can vote on who you want to be moderator. Wouldn't want to annoy the children! 
19:13:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Vote on if were going to use your ideas at all
19:13:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> How about you contact gergely
19:13:27 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> How can you close when
19:13:27 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> 1. No emails where shown to communiry
19:13:28 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> 2. He still has access to the email
19:13:28 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Open case
19:13:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Instead of larping about closing monerkon meeting issues
19:13:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > > <@m-relay:monero.social> <m​idipoet> Exactly. be nice if they were closed as well
19:13:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > How can you close when
19:13:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > 1. No emails where shown to communiry
19:13:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > 2. He still has access to the email
19:13:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > Open case 
19:13:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You cant. Thats why its meta
19:13:52 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/899
19:13:52 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> This one keeps people honest i think
19:14:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Because its in discussion
19:14:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/899
19:14:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > This one keeps people honest i think
19:14:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> This is supposed to be on events meeting agenda now too
19:14:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> #telegrambotgate
19:15:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> i assume its on the agenda, nit for censorship, but for trending #permbanofrn
19:15:38 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> This here is why fluffy as played his cards well
19:15:43 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Lets create working groups instead of core
19:15:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Midi the liar claims im not welcoming
19:16:06 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Sure if people can agree not to fck other people ovwr
19:16:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I think thats a question for the new folks.
19:17:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> im not welcoming - to parasites
19:17:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And im not welcoming to people who want to waste hours of community time on larping
19:17:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Look at the issues midi wanrs meeting for
19:18:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Idiot shit. I cant entertain this circus
19:18:37 <midipoet> Ok fine. Let's just leave them open. Ignore me. 
19:18:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Meetibgs?!?!
19:18:41 <midipoet> I did try. 
19:18:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Go comment on the damn issue if its solved
19:18:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ping the op to close it
19:19:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You need 10 people for that??
19:19:03 <midipoet> plowsof: you can remove the agenda item from the 23rd. It's obviously not needed. 
19:19:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You can close 4 of them rn
19:19:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Go to events, and tell gerbely to close em
19:20:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Oh look
19:20:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Plowsof is already doing the work
19:20:44 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/630
19:20:45 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> This could be closed
19:20:50 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Lol
19:20:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > Go comment on the damn issue if its solved
19:20:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/191#issuecomment-1859221015
19:20:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You need a fkn meeting for this?!
19:21:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ty for bringing to attention, but you ppl keep tellibg me to OPEN A META ISSUE
19:22:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> How bout, no. Id rather close em.
19:22:36 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Im a close u!
19:22:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> abd you dont need a meeting to do what plowsof is doing
19:23:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You need to just do it
19:23:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Dan r/dark (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate ):  https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/232#issuecomment-395659140
19:23:52 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> He can co ordinate the closing by say post a comment
19:24:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> endogenic https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/281
19:24:42 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Competition
19:25:15 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Also yes mattermost has a plugin to matrix
19:25:17 <endogenic> sorry?
19:25:22 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Better then irc
19:25:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/376#issue-472320751
19:25:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> q and a
19:25:42 <plowsof> Have we even filled out our community christmas cards yet 
19:25:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > <e​ndogenic> sorry?
19:25:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> The issue i linked
19:26:06 <endogenic> ya but what's up
19:26:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > Also yes mattermost has a plugin to matrix 
19:26:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ASSIGNED
19:26:29 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> When the office christmas party?
19:26:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > <e​ndogenic> ya but what's up
19:26:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Any updated comments?
19:26:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> open, close? status?
19:26:39 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Noooooo
19:27:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Youre right
19:27:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Let midi moderate
19:27:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 😂
19:27:20 <endogenic> ofrnxmr: on that issue?
19:28:37 <midipoet> it would be FAR more efficient if status updates and info on open meta issues was handled within a meetiny
19:28:41 <midipoet> *meeting
19:29:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Endogenic yes sir
19:30:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> how would it be more efficient than finishing the job without asking 10 uninvolved persons?
19:30:23 <endogenic> no updates. I'll publish something soon tho. solved the prior issue but now there are some remaining todos
19:30:35 <endogenic> but known quantities
19:30:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> youre still talking about meeting and were about to be 25% done
19:30:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> By the time the 30th hits, you wont have a job
19:30:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > <e​ndogenic> no updates. I'll publish something soon tho. solved the prior issue but now there are some remaining todos
19:30:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ty
19:31:19 <endogenic> good stuff coming
19:42:22 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> How do you think any meetings occur? The Monero blockchain gives the right for plowsof to host a meeting here?
19:42:22 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> Meetings only happen if people schedule them. And you're welcome not to attend.
19:42:22 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> In general, I'm pro people organizing and having meetings to help make things in the community better, whether it's meta or anything else
19:42:26 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> How long is this board meeting going to be
19:42:47 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> I don't think midi has access to manage the meta repo (?), so it's making suggestions anyway
19:43:06 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> Why does everything need to be a crucifixion
19:43:39 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Maybe people can just bump the issue and ask can it be closed?
19:43:57 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> Yeah, I'm not saying that can't be done
19:44:33 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Please schedule a team meeting with department heads
19:44:33 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> I'm just saying that if someone wants to schedule a meeting before doing that, I'm not going to complain about it
19:45:16 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> Recall the purpose of this channel was originally to discuss FFS proposals and community news once a week. It wasn't officially granted any authority or anything. Diego and I just... started planning them
19:45:25 <m-relay> <e​ndor00:matrix.org> But where's the fun if you can't dictate other people's time when **you** feel like it?
19:45:50 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> Who is dictating your time? You don't need to go to any meetings
19:46:12 <m-relay> <e​ndor00:matrix.org> Not what I meant :P nvm
19:46:13 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Well my department meets kpis cause ofrn closes cases quickly
19:46:22 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> You can make your own "Monero Cynics Roundtable" meetings whenever you want as well
19:47:55 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Why
19:48:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> too busy
19:48:23 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> You're here 24/7 sir
19:48:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I am
19:48:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I have 24/7 coverage
19:48:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Every continent too
19:49:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I don't even sleep
19:52:48 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> I just want to make sure people understand that not every room needs to be for everything, and if a certain workgroup isn't a good fit for some reason, you can always make your own parallel workgroup, that's ok. I'd like to see that more often
19:53:13 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Too busy solving case
19:53:19 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> Monero Talk wanted their own event with their own ideas. Good!
19:53:27 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Now get back to work ofrn!
19:53:28 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> etc etc
19:53:44 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Or ima whip u
19:53:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Kinky
19:55:21 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Now where all friends again are you going to unban ofrn?
19:55:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> No. Need meta issue to permaban ofrn
19:57:03 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> So i have to look for support replacement?
19:57:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://nitter.net/nahuhhXMR/status/1732901663969587514
19:58:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (the guy deleted all of his tweets)
19:58:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> #telegrambot
20:00:34 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Looks like your talking to yourself
20:00:49 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Crazy person
20:13:35 <midipoet> sgp: it seems that to have any type of meeting here, we first have to ask the community their opinion in the community meeting run by plowsof. 
20:15:46 <m-relay> <s​gp:magicgrants.org> It's probably kind to get their blessing before using this room, but you could of course host it anywhere else if they disagree
20:31:07 <midipoet> Ah jesus, could you imagine the shitshow if i said it was gonna be in -policy
20:46:25 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Meeting for meta issues?
20:46:59 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> We will lock the doors and keep them locked until all is resolved
20:56:32 <midipoet> 123bob123: the idea would be too move forward on the outstanding issues and post any meaningful issues/outcomes to the github issue, including defined action points/info requests. There are a fair few that could be closed (always can be reopened if required), in my opinion. What is the other option? Leave them open for infinity?
21:10:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> No. Get to work
21:11:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Plowsof and i started
21:12:05 <midipoet> I'll believe it when i see it
21:12:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> its in this chat
21:13:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/191#issuecomment-1859221015
21:15:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Incoming fallacy in 3..2..
21:16:10 <midipoet> Fantastic. More comments
21:16:10 <midipoet> God bless the workers
21:18:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> R u retarded?
21:18:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Can you not read the comment?
21:19:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Is plowsof L.A.R.Ping like you?
21:19:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> No. He's signing up to do the damn work
21:20:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> God bless the workers? Plowsof? Yeah, god bless plowsof.
21:21:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://github.com/plowsof/monero-gui-exe
21:31:17 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> MoaR ComMaNtS. fanTasiA
21:33:20 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Who is this plowsof
21:33:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> i know its hard to believe, but (get this) plowsof puts in hours of hard labor. Doesnt just host meeting 4 times a year for monerkon tix
21:33:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > Who is this plowsof
21:33:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> My ai workhorse
21:34:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> If im on 24/7, hes on 48/7
23:54:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I found a video of the meta meeting
23:54:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://youtu.be/u8Kt7fRa2Wc