02:23:01 https://pastebin.com/htpziAqi 02:24:48 Lol 03:45:51 Spot ETFs won't be the death of BTC, its the growth of the futures market aka paper market that keep suppressing the prices. Not enough captial in XMR to be the new BTC 03:46:01 IMO: Spot ETFs won't be the death of BTC, its the growth of the futures market aka paper market that keep suppressing the prices. Not enough captial in XMR to be the new BTC 05:39:59 Hello I want to ask something about monero encryption. Please be patient with me. I've seen the whitepaper https://bytecoin.org/old/whitepaper.pdf. When ALICE sends X amount of Monero to BOB, how does BOB or anyone that verifies the transaction know whether the amount of monero that ALICE has is actually valid? 05:39:59 For example, if ALICE has 1 Monero, what prevents her from sending 2 Monero to BOB? 06:35:04 Hey watch out guys. QAnon is a military operation.to catch people who have commited crimes in the past. Best of luck. Remain private 07:15:59 Hello monerobros, I've created a Kuno to receive donations for the channel, and I'd appreciate it if you could take a look ☺️. I run a channel focused on sharing art and translations to promote the use of Monero in Brazil. I hope to keep contributing to the community; Monero is a great project, and its adoption should be increasingly encouraged here. 07:15:59 https://kuno.anne.media/fundraiser/5ia2/ 07:16:00 https://t.me/MoneroPropagandaBR 07:17:52 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/qDuZQJUVclEqeItOUXpYfvry 07:19:18 This is one of my latest works 07:19:18 "Privacy is the key, use Monero" 10:29:48 Hey, this is where RingCT (or now bulletproofs) step in. You can read about that here: https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/bulletproofs.html 10:29:48 In short some fancy math & encryption makes sure that the sum of the in- and outputs is 0 and that the outputs are bigger than 0. 10:29:48 I think every node that broadcasts a transaction checks this (but you might want to double check me on this). 13:40:12 FPS DEV GUY (izdihar): more info on RingCT here https://www.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf#chapter.5 13:42:28 MrWonderland: probably better explained as outputs must be in range of `0 to 2^64 − 1` 13:45:29 Thanks foe coming in clutch dude 13:57:44 Also here is a very nice explanation (and there are chapters for RingCT and before that) https://www.moneroinflation.com/amounts_bulletproofs_plus 15:30:52 I2p baked into the GUI bounty now @ 15xmr https://bounties.monero.social/posts/32/15-061m-i2p-baked-into-the-monero-gui 15:32:12 This closed PR is the beginning of integrating it like p2pool https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pull/4181 15:34:25 dsc_ 15:35:15 plowsof: i remember working on that (i2p integration in GUI) 15:35:34 via i2p-zero 15:36:40 unfortunately its not a trivial feature 15:37:29 this was back in 2018, I was in contact with the author of i2p-zero 15:37:44 But you tried to do it properly , this is the bare minimum (like p2pool integration) 15:37:52 lemme read 15:38:40 ok yeah, sure 15:38:57 so what i did not like about i2p is the bootstrap time compared to Tor 15:39:03 takes like several minutes to get online 15:39:05 IIRC 15:39:37 i2p is great though once it works ;) 15:46:52 does someone know if/when polyseed gets into monero 16:10:56 I also think Tor would result in better user experience 16:14:01 I2p uses a lot of data 16:14:48 And startup time is typically in the minutes if you havent been connected for a while 16:17:14 You can set bandwidth limits 16:17:27 I know 16:17:35 And the startup time is ~10 minutes 16:17:53 But a Monero wallet should not know any of that, nor care about it 16:18:01 Starts up in seconds if it was recently running on the same ports 16:18:20 But yeah, a tor daemon will start in under 30secs almost everytime 16:18:23 Pretty seamless 16:20:07 If embedding an i2p daemon, it should be for the node imo 16:20:35 So you can have gui auto config your tx proxy and anon inbound 16:21:00 Embedding a whole i2p daemon makes no sense imo 16:21:11 I agree 16:21:13 https://geti2p.net/en/docs/api/samv3 16:21:14 Lol 16:21:16 This is the way to go 16:21:35 Even for the node, I mean 16:21:38 Yeah. We dont use sam though 16:21:43 Btc does 16:22:03 Any application that integrates with i2p should use the sam api 16:22:30 🙏 16:22:35 There are libraries that wrap it as well 16:22:55 https://github.com/i2p/i2psam 16:31:37 what is the best xmr-btc swap service which provides lowest transaction fees ? 16:40:51 I have heard trocador consistently recommended, it aggregates the various swap services and compares prices and maybe other info as well 17:04:51 TO btc? 17:12:14 never used them hence the beginning of my statement 17:12:19 do they? 17:13:15 he I go again assuming that people are talking to me :D 17:13:24 s/he/here 17:15:26 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/EErrtySkOigWLnVIgHTxnlOL 17:17:15 Idk if i can recommend going _to_ btc at all, unless youre a spending over 2500 and dont mind the extra 1% fee on top of the swap 17:17:47 But yes niocat, i use trocador personally 17:18:02 But not with btc 17:18:45 only 388k txs in the mempool 18:41:52 it also guarantees no kyc i think if you get kyc'd by the exchange trocador gives you the money back 18:41:54 up to a certain amount 18:47:24 It depend of the exchange you choose too. 20:45:19 How is it that these shitcoins like $SOL start pumping while literally the only true crypto in the space gets little relative price action? 20:55:00 Isn’t web3 being pumped with a lot of propaganda these days? 20:55:00 And isn’t Solana a web3 platform? 20:55:00 Just wondering about how you define something as “shitcoins”. 21:01:37 So much of the shitcoin movement now is just speculation, people thinking that they can bet on the next Bitcoin and get rich quickly. 21:03:14 has been that way for 10 years 22:14:26 We shouldnt even care about price. Only some maxis and shitcoiners think its important for a cryptocurrency. The only thing that is important is the use of it, and as we all know: "Monero is the only cryptocurrency that is used!" - McAfee 22:14:26 I think little price action for xmr just means little speculation and therefore more use in monetary transactions (this is what we want) 22:15:22 Fud 22:15:40 dont buy that nonsense 22:15:42 Demand in xmr won't grow or fall as rapidly as in shitcoins because xmr is delisted everywhere and generally investors and broader society who just want to make a quick buck just don't care about it 22:15:50 Thats why xmr doesnt appreciate 22:16:18 There is no one shilling xmr and saying it's gonna be up the moon in a year from now.. And I think that's a good thing 22:16:33 If people knew xmr was a bubble, theyd use it faster 22:16:37 Rather let's have a smaller but more educated crowd that actually uses xmr. 22:16:41 As they should 22:16:48 Lets not 22:16:54 Surely 22:16:59 have 1mill tx/day pls n thx 22:17:04 This aint a hobby coin 22:17:19 Lets* have 22:17:20 Well not use, just buy 22:17:20 ok boomer. 22:18:17 Shitcoins dont appreciate due to adoption 22:18:20 But due to 20x futures gambling 22:18:47 Monero adoption _actually_ leads to a rising price floor 22:20:08 im defining adoption as "using self custodially" 22:21:00 a smaller crowd is useless af 22:21:09 I want to use my xmr. 22:21:28 So please, hurry and make the crowd big 22:21:54 You need _new_ money coming in 22:25:28 yes but do you think many investors with xmr (maybe even non existent ones) sitting in custodial exchanges would help xmr? 22:25:54 Or did I understand wrong and you just mean these kind of adopters 22:26:58 Generally in the market the news sells better than the reality. If people hipe up bitcoin ETF coming it'll greatly push the market but eventually once it comes out the actual new cashflow might not be as big as hoped and then market will fall again 22:27:42 Like with ripple when everyone was saying banks gonna adopt it. I still don't even get what ripple really is 22:35:07 Sadly everyone I know around me who interacted with crypto in any way did it through either some fake "mining-app" on their phone like beecoin or something, or bought SOL/Cardano etc on binance -_- 22:35:08 And when I say I'm into crypto they want investment advise 22:36:06 Sadly everyone I know around me who interacted with crypto in any way did it through either some fake "mining-app" on their phone like beecoin or something, or bought SOL/Cardano etc on binance -_- 22:36:07 And when I say I'm into crypto they want investment advice 22:37:50 they will only take your advice if it corresponds with that of the talking heads 23:10:36 As long as your electricity price is billed in fiat/kWh, miners will care about the price - by necessity. If the price tanks, so does the mining incentive (the "real" value, not the speculative hopes and dreams), and the network security crumbles