01:26:30 . 01:26:42 yay 01:57:36 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://atm.monero.is/donate.html 01:57:37 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Someone finish siren’s funding!! 04:02:16 LebAnon: 04:02:21 Can you read my name? 04:22:38 Just a question about XMR internals: If I tell someone X that I've sent money from wallet address A to wallet address B on date C, can they get any information about the same? Like can they trace if the wallet had sent any money at all on that day, even if it's obfuscated to who and the amount? 04:22:46 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Shish tawook 04:23:45 🧔‍♀️ 04:34:50 Imagine xmr had an official dnm 04:42:43 arhue wallet addresses don't appear on the blockchain, so no they can't 05:45:20 sech1 Thanks brah 07:23:27 "I'll help anyone interested on how to earn 100k in just 24hours from the crypto market. But you will have to pay me my commission! when you receive your profit! if interested click on the group link and send me a direct message 07:23:27 https://t.me/+FGhsj-vpp7dmZDc0 07:23:28 by asking me HOW 07:51:20 Hey favour4568: Just send me the 100K and save us both a lot of time. 07:58:09 This one was justified, lol. 07:58:09 Scammers are no bueno. 08:05:10 favour4568 I have a monero doubler. Just dm me for the address 08:05:38 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Double or nothing 08:05:53 yes... one of those choices 08:11:53 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Chose one!! 08:12:00 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Choose one!! 08:23:16 the doubler is a riddle that can only be solved by sending 100xmr to it asap 13:19:06 Hi. What is a good mobile/android wallet for monero and how do I make it that it doesn't require so much space? 13:22:36 I like Monerujo. 13:22:36 The default should be for it (and other mobile wallets) to operate with a remote node, so it won't download the blockchain. 13:28:49 Remote node means I need to give my key to some external service? 13:29:47 No, it means to designate someone else's node to relay the Monero network data to you. You do not give up a view/spend key. 13:31:04 There is still a bit of a compromise with designating someone else's node as your contact with the Monero network, but it is nowhere near as severe as giving up any keys. 13:33:41 If I have a VPS somewhere, could I host my own? 13:33:59 As far as sharing keys goes, MyMonero is the only service I am aware of that operates with a user's view key, and Rino offers a multisig option. Though, it doesn't sound like you are interested in that. 13:35:18 You certainly can run a node on a VPS, though there are resource requirements as you'll be storing a (probably pruned) blockchain and receiving/sending the related data. 13:35:42 I want to use it as a currency replacement in a larger community, not for daytrading. We all have different devices, some cannot download the whole blockchain or even the truncated one to their device. I want to host as much as possible myself and not have any need to trust an external service 13:38:39 Sounds like running a node is the thing to do. 13:39:51 Thank you, I will research that then. Are anyone of you using Monero on mobile as money replacement? Or purely for getting rich? ;) 13:41:54 I'm fairly new to monero and crypto in general 13:46:02 I'm not aware of anyone here that isn't using monero for what its designed for. Only very few use it as some kind of investment 13:46:13 We all use monero as a means of monetary transactions 13:47:15 Welcome! 13:47:15 As for if I use Monero, I have this problem where I simply cannot remember. It is a common issue in this community. 13:48:49 I know asking in a monero channel whether it is "good" is a bit strange. All of you who stayed most likely find it more appealing than not. But you're the closest to who can tell me the real advantages and drawbacks, the real use cases and what you like and don't like in it? 13:57:41 That is a lot of big questions. All of that at once is hard to take a stab at. 13:57:41 My introduction to Monero included a recorded lecture titled "Monero Means Money" which I think does a good job of talking through those items. It is a few years old now, but I imagine it holds up. 13:59:39 I watched a couple of youtube videos and everyone seems to have an opinion, but noone seems to share what exactly they do with it. Ofc I don't want to know what you really buy, but "is it useful?" and "does it what you think it should do?" 14:03:01 Ah, those are much easier. "Yes, I think so" to both. 14:03:32 Looking at the videos, either it is "crypto/monero is the solution to all the worlds problems" or the other extreme "crypto/monero will destroy the economy/the world/shave your cat". I'm interested in how useful it is to normal people who are not dependent on clickbait videos. People like you 14:15:03 I have seen people discussing VPNs and gift cards. Perhaps monerica.com can show you what you are looking for. 15:35:41 https://imgdrop.us/84cd223c-66cb-4752-9588-9ffdbd9115db 15:53:54 we just had 10 blocks in about 10 minutes 0.o 16:37:19 We are too fast for the last 100 blocks already it seems, with an average blocktime of 85 seconds ... 16:42:09 any change in zeph block rate? 16:45:53 monerodocs.org down 16:53:48 The asics are on board 16:54:05 open source wallet for altcoins - any opinions? 17:00:05 monero wallets containing alt coins, stackwallet, cakewallet 17:00:37 plowsof: cakewallet only has litecoin and monero, is that correct? 17:01:07 what are you thoughts on myetherwallet (open source it seems) 17:01:28 unkn8wn69 thanks for the report. monerodocs is a thirdparty service , better make an issue here (thankfully it is simple for someone to host if it is offline indefinitely https://github.com/monerodocs/md) 17:02:02 if myetherwallet supports monero i can take a look, otherwise its #monero-offtopic:monero.social 17:03:31 There is a mirror by hundehausen @hundehausen:monero.social: https://docs.monero.study/ but very sad if monerodocs.com js gone its everywhere on google 17:03:32 There is a mirror by 17:03:33 hundehausen @hundehausen:monero.social: https://docs.monero.study/ but very sad if monerodocs.com is gone its everywhere on google 17:04:09 There is a mirror by 17:04:09 hundehausen: https://docs.monero.study/ but very sad if monerodocs.org is gone its everywhere on google 17:04:25 ah yes, thank you, i see an open issue already https://github.com/monerodocs/md/issues/61 17:04:33 Yeah won't add a new one 17:05:00 Anyone knows who is the original owner? 17:07:46 qertoip 17:07:57 but seems inactive 17:08:52 last seen 2 months ago https://github.com/qertoip/llmrag "My PoC for LLM+RAG chatbot / assistant answering questions on company-internal knowledge-base" , prior to this he was seeking to add some maintainers to the monerodocs github repo 17:33:35 His homepage also down 17:33:45 https://qertoip.com/ 18:20:24 Monerodocs was looking for a new maintainer iirc 18:20:34 Or help maintaining 18:20:57 I also wonder about things such as txstreet 20:14:34 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Just keep the website up!! 22:17:10 In monerod how can i get the output indexes of the outputs in a tx? I don't understand the json in print_tx 22:21:02 does tob want to update the price? Not sure how much the 14d ema has moved but the price is down quite a bit 22:21:28 lets see what it's at now 22:23:37 oh dear did i miss something 22:24:01 14d ema is at 148 now 22:29:44 ty tobtoht. Missed that 22:40:51 is cuprate a go or no go 22:41:03 tob if you want to update that I can merge now 22:41:29 ok 22:42:46 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://mattermost.monerokon.org/plugins/focalboard/team/89jtbrysdj86xyxre15e9zba7o/shared/b3pygaywjxbyiprkwcpf3hruczy/vcizqoahyrpn598e4mr311ec95o?r=khrftnbm4s1qpnwiwmywg6jdrqe 22:42:46 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> plowsof didnt update? 22:45:51 Merging everything? 22:47:15 EVERYTHING 22:47:31 Evvveryything 22:47:38 Fuuuuusion 22:47:54 (this is taking a sec, gitlab is barely usable over Tor) 22:48:25 tobtoht, is it cloudflare? Were trying to get it setup with an onion 22:49:10 no cloudflare issues afaik. everything takes forever to load or doesn't load at all. 22:49:51 it's always been like this 22:49:51 Hintos https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20240106#c320350 Ruckniums comment is a good summary for the merge 22:50:14 tobtoht full-time feather + core development (3 months) has moved to funding! https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/tobtoht-2024Q1.html 22:50:39 before the page even loaded lmao 22:50:48 Lololol 22:50:51 speedy work luigi thanks 22:51:10 Is tobtoht on regular list yet? If not then put him on ig. We don't even need to talk about this every meeting - just merge 22:51:28 Unkn8wn69 - no, and no. 22:52:05 Okay ig only for people working on core then? 22:52:08 Almost every proposal has a different scope and discussions to be had. This isn't a well 22:52:47 Okay yes you're right. We should always talk about how funds are being spent 22:53:36 Anybody can work on core, for free or via ccs. Someone like selsta is the best example of an "automerge" but there are times (releases, audits, big changes) when the scope changes 22:54:01 Btw is there any info if SGP ever had customers for tracing yet? I mean is he working for the feds now lols 22:54:22 Or just educational reports like his blog post on the hack 22:54:49 Some people price themselves too low, or soread themselves too thin. Proposals are just that - proposals. The dicussions arent only meant to criticize, but to ensure success of the ccs 22:54:56 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> how can you have a blog post on something no one knows how it happened 22:55:02 Yeah also if community wants to redefine or suggest goals of new CSS ig 22:55:26 Or to give proposer a raise 22:55:37 Or to lighten the load 22:56:07 What are you working on ofrnxmr btw 22:56:24 im on a boat rn 22:56:45 I'm in xmr for years but really interacting with the community and devs on matrix only recently 22:56:47 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> monero yacht ? 22:56:56 canoe 22:57:13 Make sure to save your keys properly:) 22:57:16 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> single or double 22:57:58 Holy shit put that phone in the waterproof bag adap 22:57:59 Double 22:58:29 The phone IS waterproof. I think it floats too. 1 sec while i try 23:00:18 Tuesday came quick 23:01:19 are there any hardware wallet recommendations for xmr? or should i just stick to a digital wallet and save it on a usb drive? 23:05:00 Trezor Safe 3 or DIY 23:12:13 alts alts alts 23:12:17 diy 23:12:21 safe 3? 23:12:38 what the hell is that? 23:16:06 Safe3 is the competitively pricd / new trezor model 23:16:14 https://docs.featherwallet.org/guides/hardware-wallet-support#overview 23:17:03 Ccs title of animated videos needs a quick edot, my bad, double quotes in the title os a no go 23:17:48 Nice tobtoht ! 23:19:43 Who's alphabarius? 23:19:57 i'm completely out of the loop 23:20:02 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/gonFsZmApjtcThltXYINwcyg 23:20:12 Awww, i'm being impersonated 23:20:18 i'm inclined not to trust trezor or ledger 23:20:20 Brings a tear to my eye 23:20:47 Write ur seed somewhere safe 23:20:57 Why trust it to some third party 23:21:13 That's the opposite of monero 23:53:52 I fixed it 23:55:22 Continuation of Core Monero Concepts - A Series of Animated Explainers has moved to funding! https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/VOSTOEMISIO-Continuation-of-Core-Monero-Concepts-A-Series-of-Animated-Explainers.html 23:55:38 Thank you!