02:23:39 <m-relay> <p​reland:matrix.org> In 5 words or more, describe Monero
02:24:16 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Peer-to-peer private, digital cash.
02:24:47 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> In this economy, doubtful.
02:25:07 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> What economy? What'd I miss?
02:25:57 <m-relay> <c​openhagen_bram:matrix.org> mani linluwi pi len sona
02:26:50 <m-relay> <c​openhagen_bram:matrix.org> internet money of knowledge-covering
02:28:32 <m-relay> <c​openhagen_bram:matrix.org> Is peer-to-peer mandatory for a cryptocurrency? Could a cryptocurrency be just as decentralized using, for instance, self hostable relays, in a manner similar to SimpleX Chat?
02:28:34 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Bitcoin, if it worked right.
02:28:34 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Jokes aside, I think Rottenwheel nailed it.
02:28:54 <m-relay> <c​openhagen_bram:matrix.org> don't you mean 5 words or less?
02:30:35 <m-relay> <c​openhagen_bram:matrix.org> Is peer-to-peer mandatory for a cryptocurrency? Could a cryptocurrency be just as decentralized using, for instance, self hosteable relays, in a manner similar to SimpleX Chat?
02:40:13 <nioCat> monero is for everyone 
02:46:27 <m-relay> <p​reland:matrix.org> Depends; if you glance at it quickly, then yes
02:46:27 <m-relay> <p​reland:matrix.org> If you look at it closely and see the error, then no ;)
02:48:09 <m-relay> <p​reland:matrix.org> In the same vein, in 5 words or more, explain what the current status of Haveno is
03:02:01 <nioCat> soon
03:02:49 <nioCat> ™
03:50:57 <m-relay> <c​openhagen_bram:matrix.org> A live test network is online and users can already run Haveno and make test trades between each others using Monero's stagenet.
06:20:24 <m-relay> <t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> I have been noticing for the last 2-3 days that XMR hits its intraday high during this hour.
06:20:49 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Dca bots
06:26:15 <m-relay> <t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> How do the bots trade? Does anyone know the logic inputted in them?
06:26:43 <ofrnxmr> #monero-offtopic
06:44:00 <dukenukem> #monero-markets, IRC police.
06:50:43 <ofrnxmr> Who me? I dont want sgp apologizing again
06:53:07 <ofrnxmr> really, i cant recommend any room im not allowed in
06:53:22 <m-relay> <t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> While signing up I tried matrix.monero.social but it did not work. Never received email.
06:53:34 <ofrnxmr> Its just monero.social
06:53:51 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> Just stumbled over this. Seems it's from from November 2023, in India, but I don't think I every saw it so far: https://assets.finbold.com/uploads/2023/11/economic-times-monero-ad.jpg
06:54:58 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Old, reported on X
06:55:03 <dukenukem> lol, you should be able to join markets on IRC, just /join #monero-markets.
06:56:08 <dukenukem> sounds a bit petty not to recommend rooms you aren't allowed in. I recommended @moneroesp in each El Monero podcast episode and social media for months if not years regardless of being banned. to each their own.
06:56:35 <dukenukem> rbrunner7 ya, that was reported on X.
06:57:19 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/PpjcVprSxCUQOOOJinqknRLG
06:58:00 <dukenukem> https://twitter.com/TheStoicCoiner/status/1725132861404254341/
06:58:07 <dukenukem> https://nitter.unixfox.eu/TheStoicCoiner/status/1725132861404254341
07:39:25 <ofrnxmr> Dukenukem, i don't mean universally and i was half joking 
08:36:32 <midipoet> rbrunner7: first time i have seen it. Thanks for sharing 
09:57:13 <plowsof> An intraday high for general fund donations after this 20xmr gift https://nitter.net/WatchFund/status/1747907742856061310
10:07:45 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> how paid for this Ad though ?
10:08:42 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Who knows, it’s easy to get bank accounts with fake kyc
10:09:38 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> but who would want to pay for monero ad on ET
10:10:02 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Monero bag holder ?
10:10:42 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> a front page ad could easily around $10k
10:10:55 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> whats a monero bag holder ?
10:11:00 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> monero whale ?
10:11:14 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> a front page ad could easily be around $10k
10:12:35 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Probably
10:14:38 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Costs approx 4-5k
12:30:29 <m-relay> <p​reland:matrix.org> I wonder how many people actually see that newspaper though; it appears to be written in English, even though it is in India…
12:52:14 <m-relay> <v​stealth:matrix.org> The Economic Times had a total readership of 3.7 million: IRS Q1 2019.
12:52:14 <m-relay> <v​stealth:matrix.org> It is a very big publication in India, when I was there last November you could see it on every corner. Vast majority of educated people in India speak very well english.
12:54:01 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> from what ive heard about indian crypto taxes, the guy might have just spent a bit of what he saved by using monero /s
13:22:15 <m-relay> <a​mbitiouslemming:matrix.org> What are the opinions here about Moneromarket.io?
13:36:11 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> More than the US population
13:37:02 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> how do you even enforce crypto taxes
13:37:09 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> How many actually saw that specific paper ? Not much as it was city specific
13:37:50 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Kind of like assets like gold or cash i presume but this seems to require some surveilance
13:38:05 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> KYC exchanges linked with their tax identification
13:38:31 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> ah so its like a usage fee?
13:38:51 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Like if i buy crypto i need to pay extra
13:39:50 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> ah so its like a entry/exchange fee?
13:39:54 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> 1% when you buy, 30% on profit 
13:39:55 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Crypto is not a legal tender in India
13:40:11 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> ah ok
13:40:12 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> So if you accept it, you are charged 30% 😂
13:40:21 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> damn
13:40:39 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Draconian law just to make ppl move away from crypto
13:40:55 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> I'd prefer a land tax
13:41:14 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> 10s of shitty binance affiliate exchanges had poped up in India, selling paper and no withdrawals lol
13:41:45 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> 10s of shitty binance affiliate exchanges had popped up in India, selling paper and no withdrawals lol
13:43:23 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> India is all out to kill crypto, so monero is a good coin to hide
13:43:59 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> But zero exposure to monero , ppl still want btc doge shiba
13:44:27 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> at least use wownero if you want memes
13:44:30 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> xd
13:45:13 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Who knows about wow outside monero community lol
13:45:16 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> right...
13:45:23 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Niche of a niche
13:46:35 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> A billionaire was extorted a couple of yrs back with ransom asked in monero, media replaced it with bitcoin or crypto in their articles lol
13:47:47 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Monero even doesn’t get bad publicity 😂
13:48:44 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Anyway we will survive
13:49:16 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Just need bread, who needs lambos 😂
13:49:47 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> maybe media dont want people to know it exists
13:50:06 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Though theres a bunch of stickers in my city. Even a few in denmark
13:50:11 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> if no one took mine down
13:50:22 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Yah pretty obvious by now it’s been filtered out
13:54:35 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Hm kinda wish I could convince merchants to adopt it but i dont know any personally
13:54:46 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> theres just the mainstream grocery stores
13:55:34 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Last push for adoption using ccs was in 2017
13:56:02 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> After there it’s just dependent on niche market
13:58:32 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> At least flokinet and addy.io accepts monero + donations to a bunch of stuff
13:58:45 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> So I can actually use it
14:48:37 <ofrnxmr> Off topic
14:48:55 <ofrnxmr> ( #monero)
14:57:08 <m-relay> <p​reland:matrix.org> I’d be interested in seeing a steganographic cryptocurrency, especially considering how many draconian countries ban or directly middleman encryption (such as Kazakhstan). Not sure how viable it would be in practice
15:13:03 <plowsof> We're interested in monero here 
15:40:45 <Inge> Start training pigeons to carry your tcp packets
22:26:12 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> Hi