00:37:34 Jeez I forgot about it Serai 01:10:08 <123bob123:matrix.org> Rip luke 01:13:30 If Havena where on mainnet, I would be using it right now 01:13:39 -a+o 08:24:32 How can I reach Monero Outreach? 08:29:24 <123bob123:matrix.org> web archive 09:24:38 seance 09:51:14 Seance lol. Yknow we can retake the room, right? 09:51:29 And rehost the website 09:52:01 what's seance? 09:56:12 <123bob123:matrix.org> Nfi 10:01:09 <123bob123:matrix.org> Domain is still active 10:06:35 ? 10:06:48 why the cryptic language bruh 10:07:14 <123bob123:matrix.org> No fckn idea 10:07:23 <123bob123:matrix.org> Nfi 13:05:42 seance is a method of communicating with the dead 13:06:04 seems uncertain if MO is dead 14:09:59 I agree a lot of good information was on Monero outreach. 14:09:59 We need to find a way to recover what we can (ideally the files from the main developer). 14:10:00 Also acceptedhere .io was another good resource as well. 14:21:37 Should there be a community project to host important community websites? 14:21:37 Have a main website as a guide/directory then use subdomains to recreate the (dead) websites? 14:21:38 That way if the website from main host ever goes down for whatever reason then at the very least we can a functional archive of the website? 14:21:38 (Some projects may go under due to costs, or loss of interest at least this way we can ask the website makers if we can fork their website if they start to lose interest) 14:30:35 Maybe CSS to fund every good Monero ressource sites? 14:30:35 (Like pay for there VPS) 14:30:36 It's probably less expensive than a lot of less usefull CSS out there 14:30:57 Like make a Monero hosting fund and have site manager to send the bills or something 14:45:58 Is monero outreach offline? If so, wjy did it turn offline? 14:46:02 Why* 14:47:11 It’s been down for a while as far as I can tell. 14:47:11 I’m not sure why it’s defunct. 14:49:42 Different solutions to the same fundamental issue. 14:49:43 However, we all agree that there needs to be a method, or mechanism to ensure critical websites are maintained. 14:49:43 The gritty details are to follow, of how we decide critical websites, and who gets to decide that? 14:51:34 He could have anyone proposing sites to support 14:51:35 Then we can vote to choose a priority order for the sites 14:51:35 Then you fund the ones with most priority down to the one with the less 14:56:10 I like that approach if we’re going down the funding route. 14:56:10 If other people support that route then I am down for that as well. 14:56:10 However, I think my original proposal would be more cost-effective in the long run. 14:56:11 Perhaps both, help fund sites then if they go down have an archive of them. 14:58:45 So people would enter the url of websites they want to have funded, or archived then afterwards people would decide through a voting mechanism of sorts how the general fund should be allocated? 15:37:36 Is there a way to have a dead man's switch for domain control? Some community member owns a domain, but it transfers to Core automatically or something if the alive man doesn't press the button every 6 months? 15:41:36 I imagine so but it depends on if the domain is still owned or not. 15:41:36 But I’m assuming we’re operating under the guise of a registered domain that the owner preemptively disappeared before the domain renewal date. 15:44:26 I mean, to prevent this situation that has happened half a dozen times already. 15:44:54 Do it now with the relevant domains while we have the men and women alive. 15:45:15 Well that’s the intended goal. 15:52:06 I think the stages should be. 15:52:06 Step 1. Propose a website. 15:52:06 Step 2. Contact Website host 15:52:07 Step 3. Host Website if host agrees 15:52:07 It should be an opt-in method, the website host would still control the website/domain but they would transfer, or share the domain control if they opt-in to the program. 15:56:44 There needs to be a fine line of trying to maintain decentralization but the problem with domain control is it that it isn’t exactly a conventional method of keeping it decentralized 😅. 15:56:44 So, unfortunately if we’re doing that then it becomes centralized which isn’t necessarily a problem but I think the website file sharing method allows people to own their domains while still maintaining the key information on those websites. 15:56:45 And then if the website does go down then we can reclaim the domain, and use the previous files to bring the website back up. 16:23:55 If anyone is interested or open to discuss this matter further please let me know via DM so I can make a dedicated group for it. 16:23:55 Since I think “spamming” here might be a little annoying to everyone else 😅. 16:26:09 to me it seems relevant for this channel 16:27:02 or maybe yet another monero channel :D 16:30:42 If people are ok with the idea being discussed here then I’m willing to stay here as well. 19:30:04 <123bob123:matrix.org> Core just needs to pull there finger out 19:30:19 <123bob123:matrix.org> Setup back end and people can contribute 19:30:28 <123bob123:matrix.org> Like docs etc 19:31:20 <123bob123:matrix.org> Someone in website is currently testing an alt for getmonero website platform 19:31:58 <123bob123:matrix.org> https://getmonero-unofficial-beta.vercel.app/ 19:32:07 <123bob123:matrix.org> Astro 19:32:37 <123bob123:matrix.org> Proof of concept i guess 19:33:18 That’s an interesting concept 🤔. 19:34:30 <123bob123:matrix.org> Rb has been drafted as monero-website meeting co ordinator 😉 19:42:28 Website meetings? LOL 19:54:43 <123bob123:matrix.org> As head of monero pr i have made executive decision ! 19:54:58 <123bob123:matrix.org> You will comply! 19:58:15 Monero LLC TM 2024 19:58:48 wen institutional money comen to moenro 19:59:47 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/hackliberty.org/skWrLMRtrAMidVMzlwacVqTv 19:59:53 🚀 20:04:23 I don’t know about the rest of you but I’d actually enjoy earning Monero wages, and being able to go to Walmart or other places and use it directly. 20:04:23 Yes, I know about the gift cards, and Visa cards. 20:05:42 Walmart wouldn't enjoy it as much as you do, sadly. They are totalitarians. 20:05:53 Walmart wouldn't enjoy it as much as you would, sadly. They are totalitarians. 20:06:03 does any wallet have a skip-sync feature yet? (to help people at point of sales not using a light wallet server) https://bounties.monero.social/posts/79/0-121m-add-a-skip-sync-feature-to-a-monero-wallet 21:07:00 Don't think so, and if you ask me such a feature is sorely tempting fate. I already imagine the hordes of people who are mistaken about when exactly they receive(d) transactions, don't see the balance they expect after using this feature and then freak out. 21:07:34 We already have enough people surfacing on Reddit with freakign out merely because they don't understand they don't see their balance until their wallet is fully synced. 21:32:49 Plowsof, peopke with pos shoukd have the wallet online 24/7 21:33:34 Or during business hrs. When opening a franchise in the morning, they turn on the lights, power on the tils, fill the floats 21:33:54 Pretty sure "open wallet before the store opens" or "leave it open" isnt hard for a merchant 21:34:52 nerchants should 1. Run nodes 2. Receive tx via their own nodes 21:35:48 I read you wrong 🥴 21:35:58 People @ pos, you mean customers :D lol 21:36:41 Theres a crossroad between [ background sync / skip sync / lws ] 21:40:01 ... my last msg disappeared (explaining cons of each) 22:57:38 Ez just make them check a box "I deny all my rights and privileges" before proceeding 23:32:55 BG sync.. with the right parameters it should keep you within range of a fast sync (wifi, charging, or sync for 5 mins per hr over mobile network etc). But data and battery usage + having a constant live internet connection (pocket warmer) isnt ideal. So done right, its an improvement 23:35:46 Skip sync.. is like entering the wrong/late restore date. "wheres my money", or someone send you money in the 2 days you havent used your wallet and you skip it, only to be asked weeks later "you didnt get the money i sent?" And have to resync 23:37:06 Or just to skip sync all willy nilly and end up with broken wallets (what happens if i have 1xmr in wallet 1, spend it from wallet2, then skip sync in wallet 2. I end up with unspendable coins, no?) 23:37:47 Then skip sync in wallet 1* 23:38:35 And lws requires a central entity unless you run it yourself. not many normies are going to run servers of any kind 23:39:34 fwiw... and i wish i hadnt faced recent roadblocks but.... i have a version of wallet2 which supports all of the above afaict 23:39:46 i've had this since mid last year since i was forced to go to wallet2 23:40:00 well not forced but.. long story which i'll share in a sec 23:40:12 anyway, just saying, client can support whatev 23:40:17 i will share da code in a moment 23:40:42 had a bunch of things happen lately incl some med issues it seems 23:40:51 💪 23:40:53 stress can do fucked up things haha 23:40:59 i had little idea 23:54:07 LWS client library for Svelte, please 🙏 23:54:27 🤙