03:39:52 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> So, you just need to install this app, buy some of these tokens, and then maybe...
03:39:52 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> I don't think I ever saw that many download/install buttons on a single website before.
06:06:31 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/cUjyXTFQjydVuDwXyYuMXgbP
06:06:40 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> I put together a very basic monero bill, thoughts
06:08:35 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> That qr is monero general fund btw
06:09:17 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> I wanted to see what a utility bill would look like in monero
07:13:27 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> I keep getting shocked by the pure stupidity gone into making Ubuntu.
07:13:28 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Everything config seems to be symlinked to something else.
07:13:28 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Setting a password in MySQL for root@localhost seems impossible.
07:13:29 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> ```
07:13:29 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> /etc/mysql/@my.cnf => /etc/alternatives/my.cnf
07:13:30 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> /etc/alternatives/@my.cnf => /etc/mysql/mysql.cnf
07:13:30 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> ```
07:13:31 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> WTF.
07:13:31 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> In `mysql.cnf` I find only:
07:13:32 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> ```
07:13:32 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> !includedir /etc/mysql/conf.d/                                                                                                                                  
07:13:33 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> !includedir /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/                                                                                                                            
07:13:33 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> ```
07:13:34 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> Where I finally find an actual config file `/etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.cnf` that don't explain why password can't be set.
07:13:34 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> This special version of Ubuntu have been specially fucked over by Oracle for their OCI Compute instances. What a shitshow 😭
07:18:12 <m-relay> <o​cean:matrix.thisisjoes.site> ubuntu jumped the shark many moons ago
07:18:18 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Yeah
07:18:27 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Use postgres if you can
07:23:12 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Uses scram-sha-256 for passwords
07:25:38 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> While we are on the idea of using something else. If I could just install a base Slackware of an ISO image, all this wouldn't be a problem 😎
07:30:43 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> After 30+ years as a Unix/Linux admin, I should be able to get shit done in an afternoon, but holy cow, did they fuck that shit up 🖕🤬
07:58:14 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Like an invoice?
08:05:47 <m-relay> <o​cean:matrix.thisisjoes.site> need bigger+different font, smaller qr
08:35:41 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> It's in beta atm, the end goal is ultimately a one click payment in XMR to get a wire transfer or bullion.
08:35:41 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> It's decentralzied, trustless and private. The swap is atomic and the marketplace trade is enforced through MAD escrow.
08:35:42 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> No intermediaries and the system can't be taken down. It's enough to get excited about, but I agree the UI still needs polishing.
08:37:53 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> no_2: Searching the market for XMR & Monero yielded zero results.
08:43:58 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Basicswap?
08:47:14 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> There are wire transfers listed under "localbitcoins", also silver bullion here:
08:47:15 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> particl.store
08:47:15 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> There isn't a portal view for BSX yet, but there are a lot of XMR to PART trades listed on the platform once you install it.
08:48:22 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> On the near roadmap is a plan to have a one click option to pay a marketplace listing in the currency of your choice. This will be done in the background using BasicSwap. So XMR to worry transfer etc will soon be a one click operation.
08:50:23 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> On the near roadmap is a plan to have a one click option to pay a marketplace listing in the currency of your choice. This will be done in the background using BasicSwap. So XMR to wire transfer etc will soon be a one click operation.
08:57:57 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> I see the wire-transfer adds. That's some serious fees they got going 🤣
08:58:01 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/JMzaTaRkNRYLUbaWuGTXuBmY
08:59:24 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> Yeah, the portal has a display bug, so it shows a dollar sign, but it's priced in PART on the marketplace.
09:00:40 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> You mean this thing?
09:00:46 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/FdGSUwWjckmHSUZEeOXKATSB
09:01:23 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/qxYpRRCmJsIgTEPGAqvYyJKP
09:01:31 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> I bought this at around Xmas time from a couple of different sellers. So I can verify it works.
09:01:32 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> I haven't tried the wire transfer yet.
09:03:47 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> No KYC cross-border wire transfers aren't that easy,  and are a bit costly.
09:05:25 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> Fair. I've used localbitcoins quite a lot back in the day, and it seemed very smooth, so I can only assume it'll be similar for the sellers who've moved from there to the marketplace.
09:08:10 <m-relay> <n​o_2:matrix.org> All the steps for XMR to fiat are proven and trustless, it's just a case of chaining them together. Hopefully a more polished UI and some market competition for sellers will improve the experience over time.
14:51:42 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> I have a Proxmox server on my LAN on my home network.
14:51:42 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> I have one LXC container running Debian 12 and the Monero CLI tools provided at the following URL: (https://downloads.getmonero.org/cli/linux64). All LXC containers referenced herein will be running Debian 12.
14:51:43 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> On that first container, I run ‘monerod’ in a screen session, so I can detach and leave it running 24/7. If there is a better way to do this, like having it autostart upon reboot, I would like to learn how to do that, but I will still want to see the live log somehow, maybe using tails on a logfile or something, but I don’t know where that logfile is located or how best to v<clipped message>
14:51:43 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> iew the live status of the daemon.
14:51:44 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> Also on that first container, I’d like to run the cli wallet and mine Monero on that machine, which I’m not familiar with how to do that using the CLI wallet.
14:51:44 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> Next, I wanted to create another LXC container that is only running the CLI wallet, but connects to the node running on the first machine. If this is possible and works, I’d do a few more until I max out on CPU and RAM utilization of my Proxmox host.
14:51:45 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> Lastly, I’d also like to have the blockchain only stored on that one LXC host, so my existing blockchains on my other PC’s where I’m running the GUI can be eliminated, if that makes any sense, and have those GUI wallets point to my node running on the first LXC container running the ‘monerod’ daemon 24/7.
14:51:45 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> In summary, what I need help with is the following:
14:51:46 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org>     How to have ‘monerod’ autostart on the first LXC container (ip addr: 192.168.10.210)
14:51:46 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org>     How to view live view of the monerod daemon doing it’s thing
14:51:47 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org>     How to mine Monero from the wallet cli on first LXC container
14:51:47 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org>     How to mine Monero from the wallet cli on second LXC container (ip addr: 192.168.10.211) that uses a remote node, specified as the first container referenced in step 1 above.
14:51:48 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org>     How to configure GUI to mine using the LXC container running the node daemon as a remote node
14:51:48 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> I’d appreciate any links with instructions that might help me do all or part of what I’m trying to accomplish using the home server. If suggestions prove out on my network, I’m happy to fully document the entire setup, including the steps to configure Proxmox for the community to do the same thing.  Please make all replies by "Reply in Thread", so they are easier to find and<clipped message>
14:51:49 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org>  see for everyone so that replies aren't redundant.  Thanks.
14:51:49 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> Best Regards, prancing389
15:54:37 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> I am not familiar with lxc. Are you interested in options using docker?
15:58:12 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> My setting is: monerod as docker container that gets restarted at boot or in case of failure. P2pool as container same as before. Xmrig as systemd managed process, but might dockerize that as well (this is for mining). Like that, I can point my monero cli or gui to the monero node (both with laptop and phone). Same for p2pool which means, I can use any miner outside the main host <clipped message>
15:58:12 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> and also outside that network.
16:15:51 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> prancing389 seems like a #monero-community-dev:monero.social thing but there are docker projects with pretty front end stats built in.. all the bells and whistles provided
17:12:14 <m-relay> <m​ooshuxs:matrix.org> It might make a great Flake or Overlay in nixOS using Podman or a Linux container.
17:12:14 <m-relay> <m​ooshuxs:matrix.org> Maybe someone involved in nixOS would make it. #nix:nixos.org
17:13:26 <m-relay> <m​ooshuxs:matrix.org> This would be for ease of reproduction and use in nix
17:15:14 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> trouble is, docker resides on a client PC, and those get shutdown, disconnected, etc.  I want my setup to be on a home server, running 24/7.  This frees me up to shut down my daily driver PC at will and not worry about resyncing each time.
17:18:05 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> Docker is good for developers, testing out their shit, but Proxmox is more of a production environment.
17:19:34 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> Why docker resides in client PC? Just get installed docker server side
17:20:26 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> That's like running a Virtual container inside a virtual container.  I don't think I want to do that.
17:30:22 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> I have a Proxmox server on my LAN on my home network.
17:30:22 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> I have one LXC container running Debian 12 and the Monero CLI tools provided at the following URL: (https://downloads.getmonero.org/cli/linux64). All LXC containers referenced herein will be running Debian 12.
17:30:23 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> On that first container, I run ‘monerod’ in a screen session, so I can detach and leave it running 24/7. If there is a better way to do this, like having it autostart upon reboot, I would like to learn how to do that, but I will still want to see the live log somehow, maybe using tails on a logfile or something, but I don’t know where that logfile is located or how best to v<clipped message>
17:30:23 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> iew the live status of the daemon.
17:30:24 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> Also on that first container, I’d like to run the cli wallet and mine Monero on that machine, which I’m not familiar with how to do that using the CLI wallet.
17:30:24 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> Next, I wanted to create another LXC container that is only running the CLI wallet, but connects to the node running on the first machine. If this is possible and works, I’d do a few more until I max out on CPU and RAM utilization of my Proxmox host.
17:30:25 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> Lastly, I’d also like to have the blockchain only stored on that one LXC host, so my existing blockchains on my other PC’s where I’m running the GUI can be eliminated, if that makes any sense, and have those GUI wallets point to my node running on the first LXC container running the ‘monerod’ daemon 24/7.
17:30:25 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> In summary, what I need help with is the following:
17:30:26 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> ```
17:30:26 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> How to have ‘monerod’ autostart on the first LXC container (ip addr: 192.168.10.210)
17:30:27 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> How to view live view of the monerod daemon doing it’s thing
17:30:27 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> How to mine Monero from the wallet cli on first LXC container
17:30:28 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> How to mine Monero from the wallet cli on second LXC container (ip addr: 192.168.10.211) that uses a remote node, specified as the first container referenced in step 1 above.
17:30:28 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> How to configure GUI to mine using the LXC container running the node daemon as a remote node
17:30:29 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> ```
17:30:29 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> Don't need help with proxmox, just the daemon/mining/remote node side of things
17:30:30 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org> Thing of each container as a standalone, then how would you do what I'm describing.  I’d appreciate any links with instructions that might help me do all or part of what I’m trying to accomplish using the home server. If suggestions prove out on my network, I’m happy to fully document the entire setup, including the steps to configure Proxmox for the community to do the same<clipped message>
17:30:30 <m-relay> <p​rancing389:matrix.org>  thing.  Please make all replies by "Reply in Thread", so they are easier to find and see for everyone so that replies aren't redundant.  Thanks.
17:33:48 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> Ok. I see. As I said am not familiar with that virtualization technology. Last thing I can say is that most Linux distros have systemd to restart/start at boot, failure robustness and so on..
17:50:59 <m-relay> <m​ooshuxs:matrix.org> In part, because of ease of reproduction and use of systemd, nixOS is a virtualization alternative, but has steep learning curve.
20:21:16 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> when $1000 was == 2.47 xmr so perhaps rates have something to do with the progress
20:21:49 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> Assuming a rate of 100$/hr and a current rate of 404 USD/xmr (May 3rd, 2021):
20:21:57 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> who wants 100$/hr for 35 hours of k8s work
20:26:03 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> I vote siren
20:31:15 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> I signed up for k8s certs (CKA  and CKS) so I'm not really an expert 😅 But hopefully will be in a year.
20:31:45 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Its similar to docker sort off
20:41:34 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> Yeah I'm not a total stranger to it but still