16:42:44 hello. Im first time swapping XMR. 16:42:44 How long can is transaction from MONERO GUI wallet? Near 30 min left 16:43:54 hello. Im first time swapping XMR. 16:43:54 How long the transaction can be from MONERO GUI wallet? Near 30 min left 16:44:22 currently there is a large number of txs so it is taking longer to get in a block than usual 16:44:52 the auto fee adjustment is not working and is being worked on as we type 16:45:28 fiatjaf trying to make the network unusable 16:45:44 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/xoeQYQqfADorKvzQxeulMrQF 16:46:02 it is usable if you adjust the fee or if the auto adjust was working 16:46:38 even with the next higher fee level the cost is about 2 cents 16:48:34 there is about a 20 block backlog rn so about 40 minutes 16:48:43 even at lowest fee level is should get in a block within < 1 hour 16:54:53 war.gif 16:54:54 This guy has GOT to be a secret XMR fan. Poe would be proud. 16:55:40 Any chance you have a link on that? I want to tweet it. 16:55:51 wow! I had send coins to MONERO wallet near month ago and still "unlocked balance" = 0.000000! How can i use my monero coins? Or i cant use it anymore? 16:56:31 Do you at least see these supposed incoming coins into your transaction history ? 16:56:44 also this is offtopic go to #monero:monero.social 16:57:22 yes in "balance" i see it 16:58:28 bug in your wallet 16:58:30 bug in your wallet software 17:39:26 At most fiatjaf is gonna add 10GB to the blockchain 17:40:44 this fiatjaf email is from like 1-2 years ago 17:55:41 Yup, and as far as I remember back then, right after that announcement, nothing happened that we could really notice 18:07:51 oh no bad news, so good news then 19:16:37 Morpheus: Heya, mind if I DM you regarding moneroj.net? 19:20:57 Sure 19:22:00 <123bob123:matrix.org> Gmail user 19:22:33 <123bob123:matrix.org> Was this swap in trocador ? 19:24:26 <123bob123:matrix.org> I did a swap when the price was low and took 30mins for changenow to send 19:31:31 From when is this lol 19:32:01 Still faster than Bitcoin 19:32:47 I signed his email up to a bunch of crap out of spite 19:41:41 recanman: Could you edit your _Monero Standard_ edition to say that the BP++ review is a preliminary draft, like Sarang says in #monero-research-lab:monero.social ? 19:42:32 * and that conclusions in the final version could be different 19:45:53 you don't really have a choice if you want to use the big sites 19:48:09 Yes! Its a coin burn that the miner has to proof. If they go above the allowed space and don't spend the penalty the other miners will reject the block as invalid. 19:51:49 Just skimmed the chat here. Do you think this flood in tx is organic or someone trying to attack? 19:52:21 fiatjaf 19:52:42 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/CqleszYfWajENHNWfDJOYCZz 19:52:45 maybe 19:53:05 and an update on your ccs perhaps recanmann https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/402#note_22988 19:53:50 I found it from your post lol 19:53:55 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/zmxiwg/jack_dorsey_is_now_funding_someone_who_a_couple/?rdt=46225# 19:53:59 https://twitter.com/DontTraceMeBruh/status/1603504938771877888 19:54:12 It doesn't seem like it's optimized for damage in case it is 19:54:40 yeah he loves the tech but doesn't want it to succeed because it's not BTC I guess 19:54:43 that's why he's scared 19:55:01 Cringe guy 19:55:21 The flooding doesn't even make monero any worse to use 19:55:30 he made Nostr so at least he's done something useful with his life but this is pretty cringe 19:56:19 Nostr is pretty cringe as well but that's more because only BTC cultists use it 19:56:31 there's some XMR people on there 19:57:01 I've tried to run a Tor relay and it never worked :/ 19:57:05 they're not happy 19:57:17 <123bob123:matrix.org> Requirement in polices 19:57:26 https://nostr.com/nevent1qqs9vczms493du322wtvq8yu6ltjknpsec5sewdrxggde2zc87maq5spzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgq3q2rrvutnfeu9677d4yjytypqccjn0njnm6zkx2j6xyn2uqfw02ldsxpqqqqqqzfgllec 19:57:31 maybe one day they will make a Nostr client that actually work properly. 19:57:31 I say maybe in 2055AD 19:57:38 this is hilarious 19:58:14 Lol, bitcoiners talking about fixing the world with their garbage chain is hilarious 19:58:23 screw the BTC maxis and screw the guy who made it because he's trying to ruin the Monero network but Nostr is freedom tech so don't let that discourage you 19:58:38 screw the BTC maxis and screw the guy who made Nostr because he's trying to ruin the Monero network but Nostr is freedom tech so don't let that discourage you 19:58:44 I think I'll look into spamming nostr lol 19:59:15 Could be fun 19:59:15 if you cook some script for that, please share 19:59:16 you can annoy the BTC maxis 19:59:17 but actually use it 19:59:19 it's a good platform 19:59:31 Twitter is getting annoying asf with the requirement to be signed in to view anything 19:59:53 idk and they killed nitter too /cry 19:59:56 Well, fuck you, that note looks like you wrote it and you're just trolling us. Nostr and Monero are pretty much friends. 19:59:57 ik* 20:00:09 Fuck you, green shit. 20:00:23 I didn't write it lol 20:00:30 Its sad to have to resort to attacking another project in order to make your project a "success". Kinda a admission of defeat. 20:00:41 I thought maybe he had just delayed his .."attack".. on XMR until after he got Nostr running. But yea, this makes sense. Old news. I hope it's fiatjaf. Better than the potential alternatives. 20:00:43 He doesn't want nostr to get stress tested 😂 20:00:45 I wanna see more Monero activitiy on Nostr 20:00:47 Why we don't a sort of Nostr for Monero instead of Lightning BTC zaps or something like that? 20:01:00 sure 20:01:04 it's a permissionless platform 20:01:07 Well, you sure did write this ☝️ 20:01:08 Fiatjaf is a great guy, and I am pretty sure he doesn't oppose Monero, and sure as hell he is not a crazy maxi. 20:01:09 someone could make that 20:01:10 > <@green_sheep:matrix.org> screw the BTC maxis and screw the guy who made Nostr because he's trying to ruin the Monero network but Nostr is freedom tech so don't let that discourage you 20:01:11 Why we don't have a sort of Nostr for Monero instead of Lightning BTC zaps or something like that? 20:01:21 bro 20:01:34 He literally is 20:01:36 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/tgbubiFlirAekJWfCRkChyXY 20:01:37 he is a crazy maxi 20:01:46 Is it confirmed him? 20:02:02 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/zmxiwg/jack_dorsey_is_now_funding_someone_who_a_couple/?rdt=46225# 20:02:07 https://twitter.com/DontTraceMeBruh/status/1603504938771877888 20:02:23 Source: YOUR GREEN ASS 20:02:25 Unless he's playing some reverse psychology big brain shit, he really is a toxic maxi. 20:02:32 Ok yeah if he has a history of saying so... Makes sense 20:02:39 of course not 20:02:45 it didnt take him 1+ years to create a script to spam Monero 20:02:50 source: bawdy 20:02:51 and hes suddenly doing it now 20:02:54 But apparently intelligent enough to recognize the threat that XMR and Eth pose to BTC 20:02:54 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/zmxiwg/jack_dorsey_is_now_funding_someone_who_a_couple/?rdt=46225# 20:03:03 No 20:03:59 I am still doubtful it's a real attack 20:04:07 maybe it did because he was working on other stuff... 20:04:09 How much was spent so far? 20:04:18 On spam tx 20:04:34 Maybe a few thousand? 20:04:41 it literally takes an afternoon to begin spamming monero with a shell script 20:05:04 Imagine how easy it would be for nostr 20:05:08 And it's free! 20:05:17 relays implement anti spam measures 20:05:22 there's really not been much spam at all 20:05:37 They have anti spam scripts but nothing that can't be outmanoeuvred with new tech 20:05:49 Surely all this works to Monero's favour ultimately? The attacker is slowly losing funds as Monero fees... 20:05:59 With a pruned node you can discard like 66% of outputs right? 20:06:17 Llama 7b can generate stuff really quickly.... 20:06:18 yep 20:07:00 If he is not publishing his outputs then he is also increasing privacy for others... 20:07:08 This feels like a solved problem to me. 20:07:10 don't give him ideas 20:07:25 Can't access X. 20:07:29 This is bollocks. 20:07:41 we have serai for that lol 20:07:41 this is why we need to move to Nostr 20:07:42 If he does, we'd have a real reason to spam nostr instead of just for fun 20:08:28 or just drum up more monero activity to annoy the maxis 20:08:41 they're already getting pissed 20:08:45 Not sure if shooting back will benefit monero.. Its like a trench war of Foss protocols. And meanwhile the nation states laugh their ass ofd 20:08:50 take over their platform 20:08:59 I can assure you for a fact that he is not a crazy maximalist. 20:09:12 image.png 20:09:19 Proof it 20:09:20 On a kind of related note ofrnxmr[m]: looking at edge cases here, if the conformation time for XMR becomes very high how would that impact swaps on BSX? Would they just time out? 20:09:23 > gmail 20:09:29 yeah, doesn't sound like crazy maximalist behavior at all 20:09:32 It's asymmetrical though 20:09:45 he links it on his GitHub 20:09:45 https://github.com/fiatjaf 20:09:48 Their attacking monero costs monero 20:10:14 Spamming nostr is free as in beer 20:10:22 try 20:10:22 And funny 20:10:26 I've not seen any spam 20:10:32 I think they're prepared 20:11:09 Are they prepared for bots acting like humans though 20:11:10 no need to spam, just using it as it's intended but talking about Monero will piss them off more 20:11:10 has moneros hash rate increased. we reached a 3 year low last week 20:11:22 A social media site is no fun if 90% of posters are language models 20:11:40 Bcs zeph 20:11:43 make it 99% 20:11:57 pump it https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-hashrate.html#3m 20:11:58 First of all - the quotes in "using" and "not hodling" denote sarcasm. 20:11:58 Secondly, he's a very smart TROLL. 20:11:59 And finally - not many outside certain circles know that he kind of hates lightning. 20:11:59 yep 20:12:00 everyone mining zeph 20:12:10 https://moneroocean.stream/ 20:12:30 this is why we need merge mining with as many of these forks as possible 20:12:36 Lightning seems broken to me. 20:12:43 tell me about it 20:12:55 Darkfi and Tariq 🚀 20:13:01 it never was non-broken. 20:13:04 https://twitter.com/cakewallet/status/1765832712655360364?t=lCvPXJfesQkZjwxAnVVX1w&s=19 20:13:07 > <@plowsof:matrix.org> this is why we need merge mining with as many of these forks as possible 20:13:07 Darkfi and Tari 🚀 20:13:10 In ten years time, no one will be talking about lightning. 20:13:22 LN "kinda" work if you like centralization and connecting directly to blockstream & friend 20:13:33 monerobull and townforge :D 20:14:59 LNs online requirement is braindead 20:15:20 How anyone thought this would work is beyond me 20:15:42 let's just use custodial wallets! 20:16:17 Yeah, that's genuinely their solution 20:16:33 this is somehow better than just using Cash App or Venmo 20:16:33 apparently 20:16:34 And you think Fiatjaf doesn't know that? He doesn't like it, and that email is a joke, trolling. 20:16:34 BTC Meetup, someone needed 50 cents 20:16:35 Wanted to send me LN 20:16:35 I told him to just keep it 20:16:42 <123bob123:matrix.org> Lol 20:17:31 Somewhere satoshi is crying. 20:17:45 I still feel like replacing half of nostr with ai bloat 20:17:46 if he does ever come back... 20:17:58 I mean.. That's not proof. Don't know this person so I really can't tell the sarcasm. Do you think he is just joking about wanting to attack monero? 20:17:59 he'd be ashamed 20:18:43 That's a screenshot, not a real email. **If** the email is real, yes, pretty sure that's called "trolling". He doesn't like lightning. 20:18:47 However I don't think we need to worry. Over time selection pressure seems to favour open protocols Vs closed proprietary protocols. 20:18:58 He tweeted this as well 20:19:23 Want a better proof then? Trolling. 20:19:27 Not for social media 20:19:36 Because social media is retarded 20:19:45 because ActivityPub sucks 20:19:49 But we are retarded. 20:19:52 and Bluesky's protocol 20:19:57 what problem do they actually solve? 20:19:59 Lemmy is kinda cool 20:20:16 <123bob123:matrix.org> #offtopic for plowsof 20:20:20 Nostr has subreddits 20:20:21 lol 20:20:38 https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/72.md 20:20:41 there's a Monero community I think 20:20:45 not much activity last time I checked 20:20:52 Real ones or the dead ass one 20:21:06 I was looking into a reddit replacement 20:21:13 "PSA: Manually increase your transaction fee if you want a quick confirmation" https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1b946w3/psa_manually_increase_your_transaction_fee_if_you/ 20:21:20 <123bob123:matrix.org> This is for 24/24 words issue 20:21:22 And went with Lemmy, even though I liked nostrs decentralization a lot more 20:21:31