00:29:43 The Oscars are on... 00:31:28 Where's the scammer? 01:12:24 if anyone is pending payment plz ping me 01:38:08 Can we avoid selecting 2 outputs txs when making a tx? 02:23:39 Arctic Mine thinks code that can take advantage GPU (and multi thread CPU) would be a big improvement for transaction verification. They suspect that was the bottleneck that made nodes unresponsive. Relevant part from 2:58 to 3:06 https://www.youtube.com/live/UeUGiSreegs?feature=shared&t=10677 03:28:53 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Pong 03:51:15 f​iatdemise: there are a lot of optimizations possible before we need to take advantage of GPU 12:07:20 any matrix mod online for this bitcoin spammer in #monero ? 12:07:47 plowsof ^ 12:10:19 yes 12:11:42 ty 12:14:55 plowsof they are back 12:16:36 whackamole 12:22:30 again 12:23:00 DataHoarder: can we set a limit of how many messages someone can send from the bridge in a short time? 12:23:11 hmm 12:23:23 someone in monero pasting 20 line spam messages 12:23:29 yes, but they will just get queued 12:23:36 lemme check config, it's very generic 12:23:45 at some point making something specific could be worth it 12:25:16 there is MessageDelay=500 MessageQueue=30 MessageLength=400 12:25:39 queue is overall number of messages to send, anything above gets dropped 12:26:03 delay, well, delay 12:26:33 this is in IRC counterpart 12:27:04 gimme admin pretty please 12:27:37 yep those are all the tunables I have that could affect messages posted onto IRC 12:27:38 i feel like the bridge will be disconnected with this person keep sending 20+ line messages at once, even with queue 12:28:03 yeah it happened a few times when p2pool bridge + monero one talked at once 12:28:13 libera staff said my limits were fine but I can bring the queue lower 12:28:29 it's usually fine but not when someone keeps making accounts to spam 12:28:37 queue=5 delay=1000 aka max 5 messages every 5 seconds 12:28:51 that's why i meant a per account limit but seems that's not integrated currently 12:29:06 continously 12:29:08 but if 5 are sent at once they will get out fine 12:29:13 yeah nope, but they could create many and post that at once 12:29:41 if it's the same message it can be listed as ignored message 12:30:03 guess we just need more mods 12:30:40 I'll drop the queue to 10 for now as that seems safe enough to still have quick conversations ongoing 12:30:42 delay to 800 12:31:12 or even lower, then raise after they get tired 12:32:28 D​ataHoarder: Is that limit per user? Or for the whole bridge? 12:32:40 whole bridge sadly 12:34:07 a few times already got DC'd for flooding https://irc.gammaspectra.live/77b5e262cf0e1549/image.png but tends to coincide with payouts on p2pool + bridge running 12:34:24 That's going to block everyone on Matrix if just one person spams. What are Matrix's moderation tools? Can message rate from accounts that joined recently be limited in Matrix rooms? 12:34:45 Are those other possible optimizations listed somewhere? What skills are required to do them? Is someone working on those already? Would more money help to make progress faster? As a non tech person, I'd like to help with raising awareness and fundraising. 12:36:18 you can limit messages and even regex filter them on discord 12:36:27 we should just move there 😭 12:37:01 I can apply regexes to bridge too :D 12:39:06 > this could be done IgnoreNicks=":libera.chat$ :xmr.se$" 12:39:14 (posted that in #monero heh :D) 12:42:24 If you are looking to help raise money for something, how about this? 12:42:24 https://bounties.monero.social/posts/102/1-700m-monerujo-add-full-ipv6-support 12:42:40 "guess we just need more mods" < more than 1? Yep 12:43:58 Scott super fast to mute dan (a mod in another community), siren (runs another community), and ban me. But m i fkn a when any real work needs to be done 12:44:31 More like "we need to stop expecting to be able to cont with plowsof + a bunch of fifo workers" 12:44:53 (plowsof being the exception) 12:46:50 sus Monero 12:51:41 I can apply any of these rules on the bridge without a restart if needed https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/blob/master/matterbridge.toml.sample#L1249-L1330 12:54:52 Hey datahoarder 12:55:03 Rucknium unbanned me in monero-beef on matrix 12:55:14 Can you do the same on irc. Fkn scott 12:56:24 Well, I want to help with nodes becoming unresponsive. I see that as major pain point, a top priority. I like the bounty idea tho, I need to get familiar with that, that might be the best approach. 12:56:44 I have OP there as leftover of bridging but I shouldn't need it myself. Is this action taken by monero mods themselves? I can do that if then ofrnxmr 12:57:04 not going to unilaterally just do it 12:57:19 @rucknium 12:57:30 Can datahoarder unban me in beef on matrix? 12:57:32 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/tchncs.de/923879721d8e50d2065bddb5a24e86b58d8610da 12:57:43 Are these resources enough? 12:57:52 Pruned node 12:58:00 Private node 12:58:03 you can increase disk size later 12:58:07 I cant see pic 12:58:10 so that's fine but keep an eye 12:58:36 growpart /dev/sda 1 + resize2fs /dev/sda1 :D 12:58:43 bump memory a bit more to have some leftoover 12:59:09 I have 8 GiB and monerod currently taking about 50% 12:59:11 pretty sure you can tune it lower but this performs 12:59:42 Make sure to limit your inbound peers to what your upload can handle. We are slinging 370kb blocks around so if you have 50mbps up you prob shouldnt serve more than ~10 inbound peers 13:00:20 D​ataHoarder: I unbanned ofrnxmr on the Matrix side of #monero-beef 13:00:51 https://irc.gammaspectra.live/4433576252dcb05c/image.png 13:01:02 I had 4gb since i first started it, it froze once (full ram usage) but now its synced completely and usage has dropped a lot 13:01:11 I can do the same on IRC side @rucknium:monero.social 13:04:26 Listen to the convo between Tuxsudo and Arctic Mine, upload bandwith was not the limiting factor for Cake Wallet nodes 13:05:36 Oh, yes, that was a good conversation about parallelization. 13:06:32 I run my own node and recently had to reduce the number of peers I was serving because it was maxing out my upload bandwidth since the blocks grew so quickly. 13:08:50 "Listen to the convo between Tuxsudo and Arctic Mine, upload bandwith was not the limiting factor for Cake Wallet nodes" dont believe everything you see on tv 13:09:33 What's a TV? I don't own one of those. 13:11:30 Old wallets were requesting much more data from nodes, which put a load on the node. More wallets = higher load. The extra data in the payload would compete from upload speed to p2p 13:12:26 Yes, lots of room for improvement on processing 13:12:54 But also, JUST the old wallets not doing delta updates is ddosing public nodes 13:13:38 we are still looking into the issue but i think it's more likely that it was a locking issue and not a bandwidth issue 13:13:53 all these concurrent read requests meant monerod wasn't able to lock the database to write a new block 13:13:55 Monerujo will have to update to the newest monero since there is no way to adjust fees 13:14:07 At least not that I am aware of. 13:14:33 Interesting! Would love to hear you and Tuxsudo chat about this other theory for bad Cake Wallet node performance. Any chance you could join a Saturday Monerotopia show? 13:15:05 ping me if you want to change any of the bridging configurations or discuss any other changes, as always selsta / etc. 13:15:22 DataHoarder: spam has stopped now so you can keep it as is 13:15:51 the problem is it's really difficult to reproduce the node falling behind issue locally 13:16:15 I bumped delay from 500 -> 1000 regardless btw, kept queue at 30. That should fix some flood reconnects 13:18:55 are you a fed? 13:19:32 I am a fed. A fed up mofo. 13:19:35 i was joking 13:20:03 ironic for a privacy coin to base itself on discord 13:21:08 which one? 13:21:36 there is only one 13:21:41 sir this is IRC 13:21:50 Monero is not based on discord. 13:22:03 DataHoarder: lol 13:22:12 ... 13:22:13 Discord is ➡️➡️➡️ that way ➡️➡️➡️ 🚪 13:22:36 no, don't ... me 13:22:37 tell me what did you mean! please 13:22:54 I am selling my entire bag of monero if it ever touches Discord 13:23:12 I was responding to monerobull's message that said we should move communications to discord 13:23:18 Why 13:23:18 but it was a joke that went over my head 13:23:28 here 13:23:29 fyuuuuuuuu thanks god 13:23:35 there is some forsaken discord someone runs but it's not "based on" at all :D 13:24:24 Forsaken indeed. 13:24:53 does anyone know the lore behind all that spam in the general monero irc chat? 13:25:12 why are bitcoiners targeting this coin? 13:25:13 tbh I am not curious about the lore behind the spam 13:25:19 spammers target anything 13:25:37 it's a single spammer not the whole force of the community 13:25:41 they aren't as far as im concerned 13:25:53 a stray crazy 13:26:08 where was the "lost everything to FTX" dude 13:26:17 they ended up just sending DMs to people with it instead of posting in channels 13:26:59 it feels good speaking here 13:27:31 other platforms for monero are toxic. I've tried reddit and 4chan ig that is where the problem lies 13:27:43 and twitter 13:28:36 4chan, vanilla 4chan, and "I can't believe it's not 8chan" musk site 13:28:39 no idea how you got so surprised at that 13:29:03 I mean what else is there? 13:29:10 lol 13:29:16 for a layman who doesn't know about matrix 13:29:36 "I can't believe it's not 8chan" Musk single letter site 😆 13:29:42 IRC is very old so it should be well known and used right? :D 13:29:49 there is Fediverse in general 13:30:10 but good luck finding the right people there 13:31:22 or finding them and not getting your ties with them severed by an overzealous admin 13:31:48 ☝️ why Nostr is the future. 13:32:19 just make your own instance 13:32:33 "just" 13:32:40 GoToSocial ez 13:32:52 matrix is the same ngl, you see the same spam coming from few instances 13:33:09 so they get moderated 13:33:12 some of these instances get 1% legit users 99% abusers 13:35:19 PeerTube and similar also are part of Fediverse, you can follow people there from other networks too, or follow PeerTube from GoToSocial / Mastodon / etc. 13:35:39 anyhow enough offtopic-ish 13:40:29 has anyone thought of how monero will look like 50 years in time? what will happen when the core devs want to retire? 13:40:30 is there a process of changing members of the core team in the future? 13:51:12 DataHoarder I don't think it's offtopic, social media is paramount to monero community 14:16:49 core dev team is based on invitation from members. It is mainly drove by your contributions to the monero source code and your intent to be a maintainer. As for other workgroup like the website I think it is free to join. Idk how the core team handling the monero general fund wallet works tho. 14:18:02 If someone could know he would have been elsewhere from now. There are no guarantees monero will survive in the next years but what's sure is that if we give up it'll die. If the core devs want to retire, they'll do it and hopefully other competent devs will be willing to learn and replace them 20:17:59 what is this talk of a docs repo? 20:35:52 I think its open source ideals are in good hands and will continue to enjoy the respect of other privacy projects in crypto and beyond 20:39:56 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> We will fork selsta 21:08:32 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Ily…Create docs repo :) 21:31:18 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/uCNUBOzHPLoiqFloUHvPftFp 21:31:22 🎉 21:32:35 What kind of rule is that lol 21:33:12 https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/issues/2034#issuecomment-1988289681 21:34:36 Oh it was kovri lmao 21:34:37 https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/wiki/Coding-guidelines/_compare/1c1096b30f87651818935c4e58bcd536161e40a6 21:45:16 Lol at rotki 21:45:41 They wanted 532 xmr to add xmr 21:45:53 And since they didn't get it, they didn't add it 21:46:01 But they did add haven lmao 21:59:51 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/GoWSKmlyLCwFbYRymSHozVjQ 21:59:51 who the fuck are these clowns 22:04:30 can we invoke our copyright and force them to change their name? 👉️👈️ 22:05:00 cant tell me they didnt deliberately choose that name 22:07:28 Double dipping 22:17:26 fluffypony :D 22:18:04 Wtf ? @plowsof 22:18:17 I2pd also hates ipv6 22:18:42 "7. You must not be involved in any project under Monero license" < (old) i2pd 22:18:58 didn't know that 22:19:11 1 sec ill grab link 22:19:39 cringe.jpg 22:20:04 https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/issues/1965#issuecomment-1706153466 22:21:30 I see. Its because of kovri 22:21:37 Well, didnt we fall out with kovri too 🤣 22:21:39 I struggle to understand if this is wildlifepotato's opinion or general russian hate against ipv6 22:23:48 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> There is another which is way for misleading 22:26:15 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Same prefix, but different domain 22:26:58 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Then tells another project to achieve itself 22:28:28 We should contact monerium about becoming a monero company 22:28:33 "hey, wanna integrate monero?" 22:41:08 I hope in before Q4 2024 we got lot of xmas present for the community. r/monero is so dead around these times. When Serai DEX and Haveno will release it'll give so much fresh air 22:53:37 Monero.town is where its at 23:04:57 Hello fellow monero towner 23:10:06 haveno + basicswap + serai = binance who 23:10:24 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> We use all at once? 23:11:40 Haveno for on/offramp, basicswap for atomic, serai for liquidity pools 23:12:59 before q4 is such a depressing goal 23:13:12 i like q2/3