02:50:47 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Pow first
02:51:11 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Then Monero tesla
03:59:52 <m-relay> <s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> did tesla end up adopting monero?
04:00:47 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> No we own one
04:09:40 <plowsof> Another 100xmr donation to the general fund https://twitter.com/WatchFund/status/1773184158132511037
04:38:52 <m-relay> <a​remor:matrix.org> Are I2P speeds much faster?
04:48:50 <selsta> so many donations lately
05:29:36 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> > Are I2P speeds much faster?
05:29:47 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> Not sure, never used it, but I somehow doubt it
06:12:33 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> mone.webp
06:12:38 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> Elon Musk is;
06:28:41 <dEBRUYNE> plowsof: How is it going with updating the roadmap? Do you need some help?
06:37:50 <plowsof> There has been a delay in deploying the site but the roadmap changes* have been merged. Very minimal changes / few details and lacking 2024 . This will be the one seen on next deployment for 18.3.3 soon https://deploy-preview-2205--barolo-time-757cf9.netlify.app/resources/roadmap/
06:39:36 <plowsof> So yes we will need input on the roadmap e.g. to add more details as suggested in the PR https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2205
06:39:57 <plowsof> dEBRUYNE 
06:42:33 <plowsof> Countermeasures / research for black marble attacks (on - going) should be put in future (as they're currently being worked on
06:44:17 <plowsof> The prev site maintainer did not want to include every minor release in the roadmap. Some disagree 
07:23:53 <m-relay> <r​andomxplorer:matrix.org> When I have general questions regarding Monero, e.g. why av. tx cost is now 0.01 instead of 0.004 $, is this the right chat, or which one you recommend? Thx
08:37:20 <m-relay> <a​remor:matrix.org> RandomXplorer:  Monero is the correct room
09:04:09 <dEBRUYNE> plowsof: Actually it makes sense to include minor releases as well
09:04:15 <dEBRUYNE> It gives a sign of activity
09:04:27 <dEBRUYNE> plowsof: I will make a thread on Reddit today so we can get some input from the community as well
09:20:08 <midipoet> doesn't the github repository give a better indication of activity? I thought roadmaps were forward looking. Are we going to estimate the scheduling of every minor release looking forward?
09:57:30 <m-relay> <r​andomxplorer:matrix.org> To easy 😜 thx
11:39:12 <plowsof> Thanks dEBRUYNE!
19:15:45 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> GenZ, which describes itself as digitally native, would be frantically typing away on their consumer devices instead of setting up a Linux mesh router. Learn Linux guys.
19:16:55 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> When thy shut down the internet.
19:18:47 <m-relay> <i​ntr:envs.net> digitally native but technologically illiterate
19:19:21 <m-relay> <i​ntr:envs.net> https://futurism.com/the-byte/gen-z-kids-file-systems
19:19:21 <m-relay> <i​ntr:envs.net> https://phys.org/news/2021-05-explores-digitally-native-technologically-illiterate.html
19:19:45 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> Pretty much
19:21:02 <m-relay> <i​ntr:envs.net> I had the displeasure of working with an iPhone for a day, and I can understand why gen z struggles
19:22:19 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> A pure consumer device. It is not designed to do anything productive.
19:30:50 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Exactly, on android we can run mesh networks, web servers, monero nodes, and a shit ton of stuff with termux
19:32:16 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Hell, i even got xmrig to run for the lolz
19:33:48 <m-relay> <s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> It’s very easy to use for communication.  Encrypted messages, free encrypted cloud storage and simple restriction on apps like Facebook that want access to much of your data.  For the lay person this is much easier on iOS than android.  If you’re trying to do anything productive on a phone, that’s your first problem.  You should be using a Linux laptop to be productive.
19:34:11 <m-relay> <s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Most android phones are laden with pure cancer out of the box
19:35:02 <m-relay> <s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> The sideloading app situation and termux are a vast improvement though so I’ll give it that
19:36:19 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Android is a radioactive help it out of the box.
19:36:41 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Android is a radioactive hell pit out of the box.
19:51:41 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> The UNIX generation has grown old. They have educated us. We are the generation that must now hold up the torch. Nobody can should call themselves an IT expert, if they have not mastered the basics of Linux.
19:54:57 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> Call them retarded.
19:57:34 <m-relay> <g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> anything but GrapheneOS is unreasonable imoo
19:57:35 <m-relay> <g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> anything but GrapheneOS is unreasonable imo
19:59:45 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> Graphene my ass
20:00:12 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> Show `/vendor` source code
20:00:13 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> Then we can talk
20:00:46 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> Other then that there is little yo no difference between any degoogled rom and graphene (except for their hardened malloc, this is cool).
20:01:09 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> It is a nice android ROM, but come on
20:01:42 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> If you truly seek privacy 
20:01:43 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> - you shouldn't have a phone
20:01:43 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> - use postmarketos
20:03:02 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> Looking forward to meshtastic. . a LORA mesh network https://meshtastic.org/
20:03:35 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> If you truly seek privacy 
20:03:35 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> - you shouldn't have a phone
20:03:36 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> - use postmarketos
20:03:36 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> As long as you run >1GB of proprietary blobs with elevated privileges, we dont invite any kind of security to the conversation.
20:03:37 <m-relay> <m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> EOF
20:08:20 <m-relay> <e​ndor00:matrix.org> * vietnam flashbacks *
20:12:47 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> That describes my emotional world.
20:15:24 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> Someone with a Windows PC and a DRM chip on his computer who thinks he can go to war. It's like fighting a howitzer with a slingshot.
20:17:04 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> No guys, you will switch to Linux. Every one of you. I won't let you run into an open knife.
20:23:54 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> But don't take everything too seriously. It's just a chat here.
20:24:01 <m-relay> <p​cre:matrix.org> :)
21:14:12 <m-relay> <g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/cLfxQlSyNqwwDOLbpwBrTccW
21:14:31 <m-relay> <g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> Lol
21:18:04 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> damn these scam become more and more realistic
21:26:44 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> I've submitted a CCS proposal to finish analysis of the suspected black marble flood attack and other statistical research priorities: https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/439