00:11:35 Dan (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate) Backup: Technically no wallet has a view only wallet until FCMPs or Seraphis :D 00:26:15 <321bob321:monero.social> Tbh i just want to see if it goes from 2000xmr to 0xmr and not get told 3 months later oh shit jet took off 05:20:45 <2008soon:bitcoinist.org> is @monerobull:matrix.org a moderator of the Reddit? reddit.com/u/monerobull? 05:20:47 <2008soon:bitcoinist.org> do they own this account? 05:22:45 <321bob321:monero.social> Yeah mod 05:23:07 <2008soon:bitcoinist.org> so @monerobull:matrix.org = reddit.com/u/monerobull? 05:23:19 <321bob321:monero.social> Dunno 05:23:25 <2008soon:bitcoinist.org> both account owners are the same? I'm just a big fan of monerobull on Reddit and wanted to know if they are on here 05:31:41 <2008soon:bitcoinist.org> thx for confirming rottenwheel 05:40:58 plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: please ban the guy asap whenever he shows up 05:42:04 He made password reset requests on my accounts lol 05:42:49 Was also trying to impersonate someone else 05:43:16 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/XfOqBHHehxWldooJwIFbvpzf 05:43:19 Also this fed shit 05:44:16 The fuck??? For what matrix?! 05:44:19 He runs ivpn and tor, he must be up to sketchy stuff! 05:44:44 He actually threatened me as well 05:45:00 "I'm sure you didn't always connect to Twitter with vpn 05:45:08 "I'm sure you didn't always connect to Twitter with vpn" 05:46:28 So do I wtf is his problem I use like 3 chained VPNs when doing most stuff online... 05:47:01 Well I actually do do exactly that connect to twitter with vpns lol 05:49:45 Threatened you?? 05:51:03 Yeah with the VPN statement he was trying to imply he could dox me 05:53:21 It was sarcasm, my brother in Christ, lol. 05:54:20 What's sarcasm? 05:54:34 I was being serious I chain my vpns haha 05:55:44 Jfc. Lmao. 05:55:55 This was sarcasm. 05:57:36 OK chill bruh 06:08:22 Is monero.town down for anyone else? 06:08:54 I keep getting a 504 error 06:09:08 Yes 06:09:46 Same 504 here 06:09:56 Guess I have to use reddit now... 06:10:20 You just gotta wait for it to come back. 06:10:48 I can't wait and the reddit is becoming more active 06:11:07 More online users and higher quality posts 06:11:48 Well, I deleted my Reddit account last June and refused to go back no matter what. 06:12:01 I'm okay with missing out if it means I get to keep my principles. 06:13:07 Centralized services are inevitable because of their reliability. Monero uses github for example and reddit isn't that bad in comparison 06:13:39 Even if absolutely no monero community existed on lemmy i would still use it because FOSS 06:14:04 FOSS can only go so far 06:14:35 Just because Monero Town is down does not mean Limmy is down. In fact, Limmy and Mastodon both have better uptime than Reddit because they are decentralized networks and cannot be killed and won't go down unless the entire internet is murdered at the same time. 06:14:47 lemmy ui died 06:14:50 Nothing wrong with using a few propriety services here and there. You should make another reddit account. You can always use a private frontend 06:14:53 apps should have still worked 06:14:58 Just ask those people who couldn't access Facebook for hours and hours at a time a year or so ago. 06:15:13 it does that every now and then 06:15:50 Thunder no worky 06:16:02 Yeah, that won't be happening. I refuse. 06:16:12 I do not agree to your terms of service. 06:16:15 ok thats strange 06:16:35 You'll come over eventually 06:16:47 Network effects are powerful 06:17:03 No, I really won't. I've been on Master On since 2019, and everybody said that I would go back, and it hasn't happened yet. 06:17:06 reddit is a shithole 06:17:20 At least reddit isn't down? 06:17:27 I can't even use these "FOSS" projects 06:17:31 it is often enough 06:17:35 No, I really won't. I've been on Mastodon since 2019, and everybody said that I would go back, and it hasn't happened yet. 06:17:57 town is up again 06:18:17 Lemmy isnt down 06:18:21 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/rvTigHDaSiRSNjlhubaiUKsO 06:18:34 fuck that guy 06:18:39 Now I can go back and continue what I was doing. 06:18:52 I'll tell you, it was such a struggle waiting for Monero Town to be back up. S 06:18:56 i know exactly who that is... 06:19:12 it was down for like 5 minutes 😭 06:19:31 ok, 30 06:20:12 Odd, thunder still no worky 06:20:18 Wifi or 5g 06:21:03 yeah it just died again 06:21:26 The US government is attacking Monero Town to keep the message from spreading. 06:21:41 no. if i had to take a guess, its the guy from earlier 06:23:00 DDOS fun times 06:23:31 Oh, there it is 06:32:33 <321bob321:monero.social> i will inform cloudflare 06:35:03 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA7E0OX-QHU 06:36:50 hm 06:41:21 <321bob321:monero.social> hmm 07:10:35 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/bOOuySloFWYhUSakwgThEQsZ 07:10:46 plowsof: he's also trying to mess with .town 07:13:01 it's down for me 07:14:05 <321bob321:monero.social> up for me 07:14:44 its going up and down 07:14:48 ok, it's back now 07:14:59 im looking into wiping the malicious signups 07:16:39 samurai and wasabi wallet and now monero.town are down 🤔 07:17:02 It's obviously a government conspiracy. 07:17:13 a stalker gains power from being discussed / causing distress sadly 07:17:44 Before the samurai developers got arrested their site was taken down 07:17:51 I hope this is a stalker/troll 07:23:03 just gimme ban power man 07:23:18 👉️👈️ 07:25:47 <321bob321:monero.social> mb for monero ceo 07:35:16 its bitcoinist/xmr dot se, the account will be back within seconds/minutes after the ban here 07:37:10 is that true @2008soon:bitcoinist.org ? what are ya doing 07:40:28 <321bob321:monero.social> sad people 07:41:31 de-federate then 07:44:24 but they use ravfx's server too :( 07:45:03 <321bob321:monero.social> report to the fuzz 07:45:15 Poor administration/moderation is a valid reason to defederate a homeserver 07:45:59 <321bob321:monero.social> probably why people de fed from monero.social 07:46:06 RavFXmy dear please read the channel 07:47:34 Is someone creating thousands of accounts? Why? 07:47:36 <321bob321:monero.social> whats stopping them from doing one on matrix or monero.social 07:48:01 mental illness 07:48:16 monero.town is doing nothing wrong 07:48:19 I would like to say because bitcoin zealots, but yk 07:48:44 <321bob321:monero.social> probably a sad sack 07:49:15 ok will talk via dm monerobull and fwd stuff to our homeserver admin. a stalker should not go unpunished 07:49:58 Isn't giving more attention to this only going to make it worse? 07:50:24 It doesn't look like an effort from one person 07:50:29 <321bob321:monero.social> just ban the account 07:50:50 <321bob321:monero.social> or get a proper bot 07:51:29 AI powered 1984 in the monero channel and monero.town ? powered with my CoC ? neat! 07:52:59 Do you have that post of one bitcoin guy trying to spam the monero network? I remember seeing that somewhere 07:53:17 <321bob321:monero.social> rule 1 dont talk about COC 07:53:19 <321bob321:monero.social> rule 2 see rule 1 07:53:21 It was on nostr 07:53:35 Give us all your xmr as fees 07:53:39 <321bob321:monero.social> is this that movie guy? 07:54:00 <321bob321:monero.social> that hated crypto? 07:54:59 I'm not sure who that is. I remember seeing a guy on either twitter or nostr admitting that the monero network can easily be spammed and they admitted to attacking it 07:55:08 It was a bitcoin zealot 07:56:24 yeah it was said by the founder of Primal, a nostr based bitcoin fanatic social network 07:56:41 I don't have the screenshot on hand but if you search Primal in the channel you'll find it pretty easily 07:57:34 I promote monero on nostr. I get some hate for it but ah well 07:57:54 Most of my feed is monero ppl too on nostr 07:57:57 me too. Nostr seems good, a shame its being take over by bitcoin fanatics 07:58:41 We have made inroads tho 07:58:59 Found it: https://primal.net/e/note1p8xmq3zr7lgryal45j562eqg9q4gyzq0hz37j7ac4sjecpg28qxspxq6m0 07:59:04 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/EjQULIjyIFRGHzhirJkkHZYF 07:59:44 And they cant ban us and we cant ban them so which ever idea is the best will win on its merrit. 08:00:46 Well well well... 08:00:49 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/vYXkrULMtKdllACrNqBrvlbB 08:00:51 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/AGsDdsPpamNUCAyVvXVzXaRw 08:00:55 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/bkhpCcHGhlEBGQhCTNrNmgSG 08:02:09 do you think all talk leads to action? 08:03:46 He got funded by Spiral 08:04:54 And yet, at least, the last time I checked the Monero network is still working properly and being adopted. 08:06:10 That was in 2022 and the Monero network is still functioning properly. 08:06:56 its hilarious how shitty nostr is 08:07:04 fiatjaf is really the Elon Musk of Bitcoin maximalists. Only talk, no actions what so ever 08:07:12 So, either he did not get the funding, he did not use the funding as he said he would, or he was completely incorrect, and the funding did nothing to harm the Monero network. 08:07:32 he got jacks funding for developing nostr 08:07:39 <321bob321:monero.social> this is my social media fix 08:08:04 let's fork nostr, add monero integration and embed it into monerod 08:08:24 Monero is taking over nostr 08:08:49 maybe but nostr are compromised if they're paid by bitcoin maximalists 08:08:53 <321bob321:monero.social> wasnt silverpill doing something like that 08:08:55 please dont add shit to monerod 08:09:23 don't worry I'm joking. I don't even time to think about what it could look like 08:09:43 maybe but nostr devs are compromised if they're paid by bitcoin maximalists 08:10:30 If u want to add anything to monerod how about p2p over ipv6 enabled by default 08:10:41 My node has 0 in connections for a month 08:10:52 Has monerod switched to rust yet? 08:10:54 There are sybil concerns with IPv6 08:10:57 <321bob321:monero.social> fingerprinted 08:11:19 there are actually no Rust code in monerod 08:11:23 <321bob321:monero.social> soon ™️ 08:11:50 Expand? 08:11:54 Monerod isn't planned to "switch" to Rust, just include a Rust written FCMP++ library 08:12:05 It will have to be done eventually, and so it will need to be figured out. 08:12:19 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/9285#issuecomment-2054101449 08:12:21 <321bob321:monero.social> cupratehttps://github.com/Cuprate 08:12:24 How will that happen if monerod is written in c++? 08:12:32 im having ideas 08:12:53 i had them before but now we have llama 3 08:12:53 oh no 08:12:58 https://github.com/CubicalBatch/deaddit 08:13:03 Thx 08:13:19 <321bob321:monero.social> dangerous nioc 08:13:56 You see, programs are binaries, and therefore there are conventions to pass arguments around functions, it's called an ABI, and when two compiled languages are capable of using the same ABI, they have a neat feature called FFI (Foregin Function Interface). Meaning you can compile a Rust library to expose C functions that can then be included in monerod 08:14:16 So cool. Different nodes can run on different languages then? Some on c++ and some on rust? 08:14:37 jup 08:14:55 eth has like 4 different node implementations 08:15:19 C++, Rust, Go, and I don't remember the fourth one 08:15:21 That's better for decentralization 08:17:00 So in reading through this why dont we just enforce different /48 as mentioned 08:18:19 Oh wait, I did not realize just how new that discussion was. It's only 3 weeks old. 08:19:02 Waiting for more inputs, discussions, and maybe a Pull Request 08:19:50 I've a working Reddit accoun t LG 08:21:12 I run my restricted rpc over v6 but not many wallets support it 08:27:33 Mysu does, cake does (with a domain name) and thats it as far as im aware of 08:27:50 Im pushing to get it into monerujo 08:28:04 Are there any live dexs with cex-level liquidity for monero? 08:29:18 Only live DEX (on mainnet) is BasicSwap and they are far from having a cex-level liquidity 08:29:34 there is also UnstoppableSwap 08:30:08 I tried using basicswap but the ui and setting up process is difficult 08:30:44 I'm looking for a dex that's as easy as using a swap service like trocador 08:30:56 indeed. That's really what is slowing their adoption 08:31:15 UnstoppableSwap, but it only support BTC to XMR 08:31:30 BTC 🤮 08:34:47 Is the cuprate site not finished? 08:34:56 None of the buttons work: https://cuprate.org/ 08:35:13 Only a couple work nvm 08:35:26 Yes, I sketched this website in like two hours 08:37:22 2 hours? That's amazing for a short time of work 08:37:34 Well, we can either build an entire rust implementation of Monero, or if nothing else, we can always just use rust libraries in Monero until such a point that rust makes up the majority of the codebase. 08:37:53 Not really feasible 08:39:06 Somebody earlier said that FCMP++ is a rust library and that it would be using an API to talk to the C++ 08:39:09 Monerod really have some spagetti code part written in C++ and Rust can't be used a 1:1 replacement, there are architectural differences. Consensus and database for example, would be very hard to replace with a Rust extern library 08:39:32 Hard but not impossible? 08:39:38 Ah 08:39:54 the FCMP++ library just contains functions, routines and necessary piece of algorithm for cryptogaphy, it's not really comparable 08:40:35 I wonder how long FCMP++ will take to go into mainnet 08:41:02 I'm guessing eventually almost everything will just abandon C++ for something like Rust since it's more memory safe. My first thought is Tor, for example. 08:41:18 It's a not just a progressive re-impl. At every part of Monerod you would want to replace in Rust, you'll need to rethink the whole architecture of this part in monerod, which have consequences to the whole codebase. So it's really impossible, workforce wise 08:41:52 yes, rust is recommended by the US govt 08:42:13 At the opposite of what I could have said last year, the ideal situation would be for network to have 50% cuprated and 50% monerod, for resilience purpose. 08:42:36 Maybe monerod is written in C++ but its devs are competent and make heavy use of static analyzers and exploit mitigations 08:43:08 Someone mentioned earlier that ethereum had multiple node implementations. After rust is done, could monero implement more with go and other languages? 08:43:09 0xFFFC CCS is already improving that part 08:43:24 competent, what a novel idea 08:43:54 If we have Go developers maybe they would want to. afaik no one is using Go in these channels because, well, Rust is better lmao 08:46:54 Only advantage I've seen so far is that Go ABI is somehow more performant 08:47:00