01:59:56 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> I am running a Monero node in Ubuntu with CLI, and I am not able to connect remotely. The daemon shows as running and up to date. I turned off my VPN, put on Port Forwarding to 18081 in my router settings, set up Windows Defender Firewall and UFW in the node itself, and have turned off my VPN (though I'd prefer to put it back on if I can figure this out)>>> can't seem to get things going
02:00:40 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> Any tips how to troubleshoot? I am using Cake Wallet, but it doesn't seem to be Cake that is the problem, but some other aspects of the settings...
02:03:33 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/XALMTCjeawIAoWeeShEiqwaV
02:03:38 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> China banned getmonero.org
02:03:50 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> You allowed ports through ufw?
02:03:57 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> China banned getmonero.org
02:03:59 <m-relay> <h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> https://gfwatch.org/
02:50:15 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> I believe so:
02:50:17 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> To                         Action      From
02:50:19 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> --                         ------      ----
02:50:21 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> 22/tcp                     ALLOW       Anywhere
02:50:23 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> 18080/tcp                  ALLOW       Anywhere
02:50:25 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> 18089/tcp                  ALLOW       Anywhere
02:50:27 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> 18080                      ALLOW       Anywhere
02:50:29 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> Using:  sudo ufw status
02:52:52 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> I was told that it is a bad idea to use RPC for nodes, is it possible to use Tor addresses for nodes? Or how can I set up my Cake wallet to remotely check my node? Is there a different approach?
03:46:56 <m-relay> <b​ufo:monero.social> Great!
04:07:47 <spackle> prifin: I am a bit confused. Running a node in Ubuntu, but set up Windows Defender Firewall? Port forwarded 18081 in your router, but 18081 has no entry in ufw?
04:08:50 <spackle> For running a node that you can connect to remotely, you want restricted rpc. I would reference this guide to see how this is typically done: sethforprivacy.com/guides/run-a-monero-node-advanced/
04:09:53 <spackle> An easy check is to use canyouseeme.org
04:15:13 <spackle> By default, unrestricted rpc is 18081. You do not want to make unrestricted rpc public. What (I think) you want is RESTRICTED rpc, which will allow you to connect remotely.
04:17:06 <spackle> I am not sure how you are configuring monerod, but I think launching with "--rpc-restricted-bind-port 18089" is the answer you are looking for.
05:33:12 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> They are matrix LN
05:33:20 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> So they wont see it
07:44:05 <plowsof> https://ccs.getmonero.org/ideas/ 
07:46:25 <plowsof> hinto's research into market rates https://gist.github.com/hinto-janai/8ce1d4847f51304aa4d71c3614408d7f 
07:56:18 <plowsof> do we need hard expiry dates for proposals that request market rates? especially if they are actively seeking employment (16 offers in hintos case). if they receive an offer they cant refuse then we're left hanging 
10:27:45 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> The example goes from 100k to 200k
10:32:08 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Also lol @ dropbox. Probably need the help now
10:58:13 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> do CCSs have a default expiry?
11:08:49 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> I thought it was 1yr
11:19:56 <plowsof> "If the proposer disappears, no problem, someone else can pick up from their last milestone." 
11:21:34 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Thats why there is so many unused
11:21:46 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> UnFinished*
11:26:53 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> and if no one does in X amount of time?
11:27:35 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> there should be expiration on abondonded CCss
12:19:55 <m-relay> <n​ononynous:monero.social> i cant go in haveno's group
12:19:57 <m-relay> <n​ononynous:monero.social> Error: unable to fetch alias
12:21:26 <m-relay> <n​ononynous:monero.social> I wanted to run a seed-node. but theres no seed-node by default to be connected with the network
12:22:33 <m-relay> <n​ononynous:monero.social> > h.c.n.p2p.seed.DefaultSeedNodeRepository: Seed nodes [placeholder.onion:800]
12:23:52 <m-relay> <n​ononynous:monero.social> > INFO haveno.core.app.misc.AppSetupWithP2P: onNoSeedNodeAvailable
12:24:39 <m-relay> <n​ononynous:monero.social> my hidden-service is published by nothing happens after
12:24:55 <m-relay> <n​ononynous:monero.social> my hidden-service is published, but nothing happens after
12:26:10 <m-relay> <n​ononynous:monero.social> i cant go in haveno:monero.social
12:26:11 <m-relay> <n​ononynous:monero.social> > Error: unable to fetch alias
12:38:48 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> Hey all -- maybe I am posting in the wrong group, is there a chat for help with technical problems with Monero nodes? I tried Telegram too, it is focused on prices and trading... thanks for any suggestion
12:38:56 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> Hey all -- maybe I am posting in the wrong group, is there a chat for help with technical problems with Monero nodes? I tried Telegram too, it is focused on prices and trading... thanks for any suggestions
12:43:27 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> #monero:monero.social or #monero-support:monero.social
12:50:34 <m-relay> <s​packle_xmr:matrix.org> prifin: There is an issue where IRC messages are not shown to matrix/element users. 
12:50:35 <m-relay> <s​packle_xmr:matrix.org> You can see the responses you've received here: https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/
13:04:02 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> Thanks Spackle. Is there a different platform I can access this chat through if Element doesn't work?
13:04:03 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> I was told that the Windows Defender Inbound restrictions from my laptop might effect the router itself and block all traffic, so to make an exception rule. Then the node's firewall is UFW and I set up an exception there as well. I was just trying to eliminate possible causes and that is one of the things I did. Didn't solve the problem.
13:04:05 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> I used the suggested canyouseeme.org link to check my Monero port 18081 and it produced a timeout error, suggesting the port is not being forwarded.
13:04:07 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> I will look at the Seth guide you suggested and the 'restricted bind port' option, thanks. 
13:04:09 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> "prifin: I am a bit confused. Running a node in Ubuntu, but set up Windows Defender Firewall? Port forwarded 18081 in your router, but 18081 has no entry in ufw?
13:04:11 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> 04:08
13:04:13 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> spackle
13:04:15 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> For running a node that you can connect to remotely, you want restricted rpc. I would reference this guide to see how this is typically done: sethforprivacy.com/guides/run-a-monero-node-advanced/
13:04:17 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> 04:09
13:04:19 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> spackle
13:04:21 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> An easy check is to use canyouseeme.org
13:11:14 <m-relay> <s​packle_xmr:matrix.org> I recently started using an IRC client. You can find details for using IRC at https://libera.chat/guides/
13:11:15 <m-relay> <s​packle_xmr:matrix.org> If you want a simple web interface https://web.libera.chat/ is a potential first stop.
13:21:11 <m-relay> <p​rifin:matrix.org> Thanks. Some responses are appearing in Element for some reason.
13:28:24 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> DataHoarder: We are waiting for your CCS proposal to fix Matrix/IRC comms :)
13:28:39 <DataHoarder> too much procrastination :(
13:29:10 <DataHoarder> I wanted to make one for P2Pool observer and go-consensus but real life tends to get in the way
13:29:54 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> What is go-consensus? Anyway, if comms can be fixed that would be a big win.
13:30:21 <DataHoarder> p2pool full reimplementation in Golang https://git.gammaspectra.live/P2Pool/consensus 
13:30:28 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> This would involve talking to matrix.org admins and being persistent
13:31:02 <DataHoarder> consensus and also side project for stratum, but it's what powers p2pool observer nowadays (and found a few bugs in p2pool along the way that were fixed!)
13:31:16 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> And maybe recreating a real bridge between IRC and Matrix instead of just a relay
13:31:26 <DataHoarder> yeah, matrix.org issues are weird
13:31:45 <DataHoarder> for the bridge, I looked at developing one anew + making IRC presence "opt-in" for puppets
13:32:22 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> matrix.org admins need to realize that the federation issues can destroy Matrix's reputation as a workable federated platform.
13:33:04 <DataHoarder> yeah, sadly have seen them not prioritize this many times in the past, and the "Administrator" behavior doesn't help
13:38:45 <DataHoarder> also to get 1:1 DMs working again would be a win on its own rucknium:monero.social :D
14:20:28 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> stupid ass matrix i have two accounts with two different clients just so i dont miss anything
14:20:54 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> simplex looks better and better
14:23:52 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'll wait for a proper SDK or native application. Simplex is yet too heterogeneous for me. Interface is very special, sometimes sluggish, syncing between device don't work. At some point the CLI version was just more stable...
14:33:28 * aog yawns
20:00:56 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/444#note_24383
20:00:57 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Rip docs
20:01:02 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Archive repo
20:06:02 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Also is it normal to have monero + plus fiat for rates?
20:06:20 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> In ccs proposals
20:06:33 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> wdym ?
20:06:59 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Well jberman and hinto have xmr rate + fiat rate
20:07:13 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> 0.025 + 65hr
20:08:06 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I admit this is a bit strange. Maybe they want to secure an amount of XMR for offramp/onramp operations.
20:08:52 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> To me its like hedging there beats. If xmr moons they have that covered
20:10:26 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Bets*
20:12:17 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I suppose proposers will be able to answer that question at saturday's meeting
20:14:21 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Maybe its to do with milestone payouts?
20:14:22 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Odd
20:29:03 <m-relay> <c​hucker8:matrix.org> is this a good place to get help with recovering a trezor monero wallet with monero -gui?
20:33:06 <plowsof> Matrix dot org ^ ifnthe trezor device is damaged/lost then they have emulators https://forum.trezor.io/t/convert-trezor-seed-to-monero-seed-utility/1560) otherwise you need the trezor software (bridge?) installed then its plug and play .. no monero app needed.. the gui.justbdetects your trezor 
21:00:47 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> chucker8 probably #monero-gui:monero.social depending on what your issue is: some blind suggestions here https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20240506#c372859
21:41:21 <nioCat> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Also is it normal to have monero + plus fiat for rates? <<>> mooo used to do this
21:42:24 <nioCat> also, are we normal?  :D