00:52:24 Okay, what service did HM use to buy the Haveno domains? 00:56:47 (It’s netim) 02:39:49 Hello everone, is there any new algorithms released following Randomx on monero? 02:40:07 Hello everone, is there any new algorithm released following Randomx on monero? 02:40:53 I saw Full-Chain Membership Proofs Development 03:01:59 Can anyone predict when this research will be reflected in the mining algorithm? 03:19:13 FCMP doesn not have a change in mini g algorithm afaik 03:25:15 It says that the ring algorithm is being replaced by FCMP, but there is no change in the mining algorithm? 03:27:30 that's not true 03:28:56 are you asking me or trying tell ? 03:29:13 why you ask in first place then 03:29:52 Does anyone know the approximate launch date of the project under development? Excluding newbies who don’t even know the basics 03:39:32 don't tag me lol , if you are not talking to me 03:40:12 Shut up you ignorant lower class people. 04:00:52 <321bob321:monero.social> Eta =<1 yr 04:01:06 <321bob321:monero.social> Havent had the first part audited 04:01:51 doing personal attacks won't gonna help you. 04:01:53 do your research 04:02:15 cry all you want 04:03:44 guy can't research on topic which has so many articles and comes in crying here 04:06:30 Do your research, before attacking others. 04:06:31 luke parker has explained FCMP in detail on blog and in video 04:07:13 Who the shit is luke parker ? Is that your mother 04:08:16 hmm , now i think you are totally a troll 04:08:41 doesn't even know luke Parker and calls me a newbiew 04:09:09 It's doesnt matter to me bro 04:09:13 who you are 04:17:54 did you donate to fcmp. If not then stop asking for timelines 04:18:15 Why should i donate the fcmp? 04:18:23 the dev is not your employee 04:18:27 I'm member of zephyr project bro 04:18:31 shut the mouth off plz 04:18:44 If you dont know first thing about mining 04:19:16 yeah so ? you will do personal attacks due to it ? 04:19:56 you don't need to do personal attacks for this 04:23:14 monet ? 04:23:15 You got your answer lecture boy? 04:23:17 Or you wanna keep running your mouth at people instead of politely waiting for more input? 04:23:19 tags me unnecessarily and asks me to shut 04:23:22 Lmao 04:24:41 "member of Zephyr" thinks we are obligated to answer him and he can insult at same time 04:25:42 The **behavior** 😆 04:26:50 Do you know what? Monero's development has become increasingly stagnant, and one person named Luke Parker is carrying out the Monero development project alone. 04:27:02 Long-term future is misfocused and will likely follow ZEC or DASH into history. RIP 04:27:35 Bruh you went lazor eyes in response to an "AFAIK" you silly 04:27:57 Foh with the ruler tapping 04:28:02 Ever since it was delisted from Binance, I thought it was a rotten sprout with no progress. 08:00:12 bro have mental illness 08:11:49 Would have been helpful if the havenomain fork had chosen a different name, but ah well. 08:16:29 really a sus behavior, and also cloning the officail haveno website. wtf? 08:16:56 if they're legit this was dumb 08:44:01 <321bob321:monero.social> too legit to quit 09:45:55 retarded DEI hires of the alphabet soup agencies doing stupid shit 12:01:09 because its too centralized 13:05:38 To be honest I think the name is the biggest issue I currently have with it 13:49:18 preland: yeah, i agree. Having an alternative, more centralised version wouldn't necessarily have been a bad thing. Indeed a more centralised version, demonstrates how the "original haveno" is more decentralised, in comparison. The blatent "brand/reputation/namespace" grab is a low blow though. 14:06:02 theyre making it sound as if they are the official haveno team 14:06:21 they even link to the "official" haveno telegram 14:07:06 reminds me that i need to make a blogpost to discourage people to go on chat platforms that require a phone number 15:42:31 This just makes me more interested in a 2:2 multisig design 15:42:44 Now all that would be left is dealing with seed nodes…. 15:43:32 Federation is a bad idea for real world governments—why would the virtual world be any different? 16:34:59 Please see my comment here. 16:35:01 https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/issues/901#issuecomment-2110276640 17:01:32 Stupid design 17:01:34 Imo for traders 17:02:33 Federation could be good because each network could cater to certain traders. Doesn't sound good but it could be. 17:09:19 https://blog.nihilism.network/servers/phonenumbers/index.html alright, completed that tutorial, was long due. If a service requires a phone number upon signup, it cannot be trusted 17:12:05 Did you see hardenedsteel comments? 17:16:34 https://blog.nihilism.network/servers/phonenumbers/index.html alright, completed that tutorial, was long due. If a service requires a phone number upon signup, it cannot be trusted. You can already rule out Telegram and Signal 17:17:44 Yeah, I read through them and that seems more like a bug currently. Being able to fork off and code your own arbitrators in but not being able to take or make offers. 17:18:51 https://blog.nihilism.network/servers/phonenumbers/index.html alright, completed that tutorial, was long due. If a service requires a phone number upon signup, it cannot be trusted. You can already uninstall Telegram and Signal 18:09:12 If you know of a flaw in 2:2 pls let me know (other than the stubborn parties one, still trying to figure that one out) 18:09:36 I guess 18:12:55 Yeah, definitely wasn’t the intended behavior lol 18:15:51 I had seen it earlier—to be clear, I’m not completely against federation, but the fragmentation can have very bad consequences. 18:15:53 For example, I would want to have at least *some* rules for what networks would be allowed in the federation. Rules such as not violating NAP, directly advertising money laundering or “mixing”, implying through presentation or naming that their network is “official” or “mainline” (cough cough). Enforcing such rules can become difficult with federation 18:17:03 (And before you say that rule-enforcing shouldn’t be a feature of federation, also keep in mind that if federation is allowed in its current state, creating false and malicious instances is very much possible, in many different ways) 18:20:05 This is why I prefer the gossip approach because then a user can decide whether they want to connect to that network or not. 18:20:22 So I could run a money laundering service and nobody could connect to it if they did not want to. 18:49:30 MANDATORY UPDATE: Haveno-reto 1.0.6 released. 18:49:31 https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto/releases/tag/v1.0.6 18:57:20 How do you plan to enforce the rules for federation? 19:17:34 Exactly. That’s the issue 19:18:03 For example, imagine if Monero was federated 19:19:29 For the record I don't own money to anyone, or have any ties to haveno/havenomain beside sponsoring it in the past 19:19:33 The best way to enforce the rules would be to have a set list of supported networks in the main app. 19:19:35 And even *that* has some rather interesting implications 19:20:02 I was surprised by the level of negativity from this person, here and on monero.town 19:20:06 Because then a rogue developer could intentionally add or prevent networks from being in the app 19:20:19 until I checked twitter DM where ex-contractor (to call it like that ) 19:20:28 snitchy sent me this https://imgur.com/a/3KKrDk7 19:22:08 so it seems ex-contractor (shitchy) is now behind reto and confusing me / blaming me for w/e reason he created in his head 19:22:26 only mistake I did is that I paid him upfront, as kind and friendly gesture 19:22:53 until he started doing nothing for 1-2 months 19:22:58 How do we know that is snitchy though? 19:23:58 and demanded payment for doing nothing after 3rd month, which I found not acceptable 19:24:28 he just changed username, if someone know him, they can verify, orangefren at least 19:26:06 <321bob321:monero.social> This is why i wait. Breaking changes still. Which means things can break. 19:26:09 what kind of conclusion is that lol 19:26:58 <321bob321:monero.social> Fall guy 19:27:48 Fair enough. So when will you be joining after a month of no breaking changes or a year of no breaking changes or what? 19:29:03 <321bob321:monero.social> Breaking change is an alpha thing 19:29:16 <321bob321:monero.social> Sounds like its still in testing 19:29:49 boohoo 19:29:54 its on mainnet, not testnet 19:29:57 monero is in alpha then 19:29:59 And what better way to test it than to put real funds on the line? 19:30:08 gives good incentive. 19:30:10 <321bob321:monero.social> Yolo 19:30:20 there is zero on the line if you save your seed 19:31:00 Exactly 19:31:07 True. Save your seeds, people. Save your seeds. 19:31:44 He's more like happy to see other actors defending him than being behind haveno 19:33:22 I'm going to ask him if he really "did nothing" or if you just are lying 19:35:01 rottenwheel: here, in his media you can see it's snitchy 19:35:13 https://x.com/riendut0uttt/status/1742515923964268788/photo/1 19:35:13 https://x.com/riendut0uttt/status/1737532435238453334/photo/1 19:35:13 https://x.com/riendut0uttt/status/1736815906062577849/photo/1 19:35:19 Oh, popcorn is coming apparently 19:35:47 weekly reminder that drama is a waste of time, move forward guys 19:36:17 Nice, it confirms what he's saying :D 19:36:35 Hey everyone. I can confirm he changes his username regularly :) 19:36:58 <321bob321:monero.social> Majestic? 19:37:17 <321bob321:monero.social> More alts then a chamelon 19:37:53 He confirms himself also, idk what MB tries to point out lol 19:38:26 Thanks MajesticBank. 19:38:45 The beef between MB and snitchy basically revolves around the following: MB paid for Intercambio.app to be built. Snitchy had ideas to improve it. MB told me to give his half of profits to snitchy 19:38:49 <321bob321:monero.social> Welcome to monero community 19:38:51 Then MB fired snitchy 19:38:53 I'll do some build in few days with 1.0.6 19:38:55 And took back the website 19:39:04 <321bob321:monero.social> Like sand in the hour glass this is the days of our lives 19:39:44 OrangeFren: so OrangeFren is 100% Majestic's or 50/50 between you and them? 19:39:53 Didn't wanted to make people updating or installing old versions 19:39:58 Snitchy alleges that intercambio.app was a gift to him personally from MB. MB says he just made snitchy in charge and gave him profits to encourage him 19:40:39 i live for this 19:40:43 OrangeFren.com is my own. As is my company. Intercambio.app is separate. MajesticBank's idea and funding, coded by the team behind OrangeFren.com 19:40:46 all the details!!!! 19:41:14 Sounds like he tried to bribe him to stay on his side 19:41:20 I put food in this guy mouth and he come like ths 19:41:22 But both didn't understood their thing 19:41:39 It's true that MB paid snitchy a lot 19:41:43 now you have haveno-schizo 19:41:46 <321bob321:monero.social> Make luv not war 19:42:31 Snitchy is telling that he got threatened by customers he promoted majestic bank during this period 19:42:56 The issue with snitchy's claim is that he got nothing in return. If someone gifts you a project, at least ask for a dollar. Then you bought it and it's clear 19:43:12 It's possible. He was MB's PR person 19:43:46 You're the skyzo accusing other instances of scamming while you're the one accused of scamming litteraly everywhere 19:43:51 MB also used vague language, so that doesn't help either 19:44:14 I saw young, privacy loving guy and wanted to help him 19:44:27 but obviously payments upfront is a no-go 19:44:42 Next time you find out, remember that you fuck around 19:45:28 why dont you want to help privacy loving projects then? 19:46:07 I dont care of snitchy lol, just fuck your mom enough to stop seeking beef around 19:46:11 I don't have infinite money glitch 19:47:02 from perspective of people talking it's very easy, but when you have to create something 19:47:12 manage finance, pay a lot of devs 19:47:30 everything is complex and takes time 19:48:32 its not built into your slippage script? 19:49:54 To be fair to MB, he fired snitchy because snitchy was getting paid for months without actually promoting MB. (Snitchy was paid to be MB's promoter) 19:51:17 promoting competition* 19:51:20 He probably tought of promoting MB trough intercambio or an other way "out of our box" 19:51:36 He was indeed promoting intercambio 19:51:42 That's true too 19:51:55 speak in 1st person please 19:52:37 At least if I was 19:52:46 Where can I get paid "a lot" for promotion 😳👉👈 19:53:20 the only reason we know about serai = monerobull 19:53:47 Monerobull is one of the hardest working people in Monero, indeed 19:54:43 Hell no that is kayaba 19:54:56 True, we worked day and night on deploying intercambio 19:55:09 True, we worked day and night on deploying haveno 19:55:21 True, we worked day and night on deploying haveno-reto 19:55:24 Thanks for the spam 19:56:46 Monerokon + moderating all of Monero is a lot 19:56:50 I mean, he helped some people on matrix to build from github 19:57:02 if rug is to happen, it will be schizophrenic rug 19:58:17 Gotta make use of what I've learned from the year of testnet lol 19:58:34 Bro says this with a thousand of "Majesticbank exit scam ??" Posts on reddit 🤣 20:03:31 you might not need to be mentally stable to run for ccs but for project as haveno, you really need to 20:04:02 lol 20:04:10 i will end it here 20:06:17 <321bob321:monero.social> We’ll end the meeting here 20:07:38 apologies to any mothers who may have been sitting in on that one 20:08:09 I support ofcxmr proposal tho, and agree on what diego says 20:08:22 with 5k upfront on funding, as with my bad previous experience 20:08:30 and asses work done after 1 month 20:08:46 and will need tho few days to run basicswap from source 20:09:33 *review 20:12:04 <321bob321:monero.social> We will wait for majestic approval 20:13:56 his majesty, if you will 20:15:45 vthor is pushing changes to his SeedSigner proposal https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/465/diffs?diff_id=7044&start_sha=9bc4fdfd2f808a6427a50d98838cdfcf4da1cc4b hmm dropping the portableQR thing and moving to the (now standardised) UR supported by NERO/Feather ... even has GUI integration 20:17:56 Full send vthor boyo! 20:18:41 i want to believe 20:19:15 Nice. 20:19:38 Thank you 20:21:28 so we'd need some evidence to go ahead and officially 'fire' the previous proposer , vthor says he can implement polyseed in python as 'proof' 20:22:06 firing him for 70 days even 20:22:40 original dev was all talk 20:22:55 spent more time on announcments/optics than coding 20:23:07 let vthor have at it 20:25:13 2 years no code, go home 20:26:13 Hah, funny because HackerIndustrial did say they had implemented polyseed in python if I recall correctly. 20:26:29 show repo 20:26:43 all i sae was a tweet saying he would 20:26:47 Can't wait till vthor delivers that then, to give green light to the overtake. MoneroSigner can't get here soon enough. 20:26:57 Is my username HackerIndustrial, retard? 20:27:20 youre claiming he said it fuckwot 20:27:24 youre claiming he said it fuckwit 20:27:36 https://github.com/Monero-HackerIndustrial/polyseed.py/blob/main/src/polyseed/PolySeed.py 20:27:46 go copy paste headlines 20:27:48 Go fuck yourself, Croatian cunt. 20:28:00 .......... 20:28:22 Wow, impressive 6 lines! 20:28:27 lmao 20:28:29 Pay the first milestone! 20:28:29 so simple 20:28:42 it can probably fit on a QR code 20:29:07 i guess the kid with daddy issues was right 20:29:12 my bad rotten 20:29:19 plowsof: wait, I'm not that fast, coding and communication at the same time leads to buffer overflow and stack smash 20:30:18 r4v3r23 still butthurt because I banned you from that room, eh? And I'm the kid. Psst. 20:30:33 the fuck are you talking about 20:30:59 vthor yeah but it'd be good for the community to see either prior work, or that polyseed in python as PoC before the full takeover of the project, imho. 20:31:23 https://github.com/DiosDelRayo/polyseed-python I normally don't push before it is working and I need to be embarrased of my unclean code :S but here you can see that I'm working on it 20:32:34 rottenwheel: tonight it should work 20:33:02 think 3-4 hours more 20:33:17 dont worry its all good 20:33:26 at least theres some one motivated to work on it 20:33:32 can you not make it 6 lines long like hackerindustrial? im joking 20:33:50 such clean code 20:34:16 :D I can, but then it is more a binary then Python, like I compress the wordlist with lzma in the lang_xx.py 20:34:47 plowsof just fire hacker 20:35:13