00:16:48 Uhm 00:17:07 Theres no view key for when 15k is cashed out to pay a credit card bill 00:18:27 Thats the only person with the ability to, yes 00:18:42 i didnt get the joke 00:19:19 he seems to be busy with another project 00:19:20 paying freelancers with crypto or something 00:19:36 You can learn the total incoming amounts using twit or view key, but no idea how much was converted to fiat and used to pay what bills 00:20:12 Once upon a time, gf secretly paid an employee using gf 00:20:28 They used the ccs wallet to pay the employee, then refunded the ccs wallet using the gf 00:21:12 Core eventually blamed and shamed the employee, and claimed they would do regular transparency reports to avoid a similar situation 00:21:31 We got like 1 report on time 00:23:02 Monero was also sponsored by core team companies, who when the companies didn't pay the bill, the gf was used to cover. 00:23:02 tldr: gf is a mess only helps us know how big the boat is 00:23:04 that employee should be diego right 00:23:47 y but i was asking about a report on outflow not inflow 00:23:51 yepyep 00:24:33 Exactly, and i want a report on conversions and spending, not just "we donated to a b and c ccs" 00:25:29 the ccs donations are public. What isnt, is how much is being used to pay credit csrd bills, or the invoices / the bills being charged to the credit card 00:25:30 shouldnt we sabotage the BF and his new business when he is clearly fucking over us? 00:25:42 no 00:25:45 cough cough, sanction, i mean sanction 00:26:10 bF didnt lose 400k 00:26:21 At least i can say that much 00:26:27 but he is delaying the report 00:26:40 Hes a busy guy 00:26:57 Living on a boat isnt cheap. 00:27:09 cant he transfer the responsibility with keys and all that to the core? 00:27:27 or community 00:27:36 to who? The guy who lost 400k? 00:28:00 lol 00:28:14 you guys did some update on the getmonero website 00:28:24 did you guys replace the GF address? 00:28:39 No 00:28:45 There are 2 generalfunds 00:29:12 The donation one, and a second one. One of them is periodically swept to the latter 00:29:14 oh didnt know that 00:29:48 Yeah, the second was created when fluffy was in custody, or shortly after 00:29:50 so which one is the compromised one, the second one? 00:30:24 Neither, but the first is the one compromisable (i think) 00:30:37 why we need 2 wallets, its just complicating things for no gains 00:30:50 ccs wallet is the wallet that was compromised 00:31:29 what is the name of the second one 00:31:40 Gf2 00:32:19 again, why you guys didnt change create a new wallet and replace the old address? 00:32:25 bureaucracy? 00:32:54 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/11fslu9/monero_general_fund_transparency_report_march_2023/ 00:33:01 Some info here 00:33:40 You've been blocked by network security. 00:33:51 To continue, log in to your Reddit account or use your developer token 00:33:52 If you think you've been blocked by mistake, file a ticket below and we'll look into it. 00:34:10 here we go again 00:34:54 Fluffypony and I have the seed for the GF wallet. When Fluffy was placed into custody in the US, I mentioned that I had moved the funds to a wallet he did not have access to. I created a secondary wallet (GF2) that simply contains the bulk of the funds. I regularly spill funds over from GF to GF2 when there is too much in GF, and only spend from GF for simplicity of tracking. Henc 00:34:54 e there was no outgoing transaction from GF2, which effectively acts as a saving wallet so far. The primary wallet (GF) remains the same, as it has the donation address everyone knows. 00:36:04 who wrote this 00:36:06 The repayments to me are because I covered some servers for many months out of pocket (at some point being $15k down), while we were missing and unsure about some sponsors. For the record, I had mentioned these repayments in several public community meetings before executing on them. 00:36:25 bF wrote that 00:36:57 (Copy and pasting from the report) 00:37:15 . 00:37:34 *in the recent website rework 00:37:43 Who is you guys?! 00:38:05 Community has 0 control or input (or insight) into GF 00:38:35 Dont blame me for getting a transparency report a 1.5yrs after the event 00:39:30 we can change this 00:39:30 https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/ 00:39:32 right? 00:39:34 change the wallet address in there with a new wallet 00:39:47 do we know the new addr 00:40:03 😂 00:40:17 i can send you if you lacking an address lol 00:40:38 (im jk, we do know it) 00:41:00 so the main problem is, who should control the new wallet? 00:41:10 Change your name to "real_genfun" 00:41:42 Thats not exactly on the table. The real question is, whether we'll ever see that money 00:41:51 ccs wallet went poof, remember 00:41:55 sadly im not into scamming 00:42:59 Anyway, we have some technological challenges before we can finish this discussion 00:43:08 Or rather, ux ones 00:43:32 Til then, were just waiting for transparency report 00:44:15 didnt know that there were unsolvable technological challenges for a web design aside from infra problems 12:34:00 Help get full ipv6 support in cake wallet by simply adding a 👍 to this issue 12:34:00 https://github.com/cake-tech/cake_wallet/issues/1200 12:37:35 Good luck with that one 12:37:58 I’ll pat on the back whoever does that 12:38:07 Well, it definitely needs doing. The internet is not going to be IPv4 only forever. 12:38:23 Hell, 45% of Google's traffic flows over IPv6 already. 12:38:30 bro 12:38:34 IRC 12:38:38 do i need to say more? 12:39:02 ipv4 is like IRC and like email list, unkillable boomer tech 12:39:56 yet I would prefer an ipv6 only world 12:40:22 It’s does but things are slow when they don’t matter to anyone. Nobody is waking up in the morning thinking IPv6 must happen! It will just happen eventually when IPv4s get too expensive, like if they became like 10$ there would be more motivation. 12:41:21 IPv6 means less routers too, because less NAT issues 12:41:41 Eventually NAT may no longer be a thing 12:42:03 In 2022 a **single** ip address cost 50$ 12:42:08 to buy 12:42:22 SyntheticBird 12:42:24 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/QJVfIWtYFTBHkLRBgTDzjrBP 12:42:35 I know, I have friends who hold them as part of their asset portfolio… lol 12:42:50 lol thats brilliant 12:43:13 ? 12:43:38 You mentioned IRC. So I just showed that even the IRC servers have IPv6. 12:44:57 He has like 20 class C blocks which he mostly used for sending some of the most filthiest spam ever, now rents them all to a hosting company and somehow they still just pay 12:45:29 weird story 12:45:43 Yeah 12:46:20 i don't know any provider that would buy ip blocks that are flagged by spamhaus 12:46:25 IPs are valuable for email spamming apparently 12:46:28 but ig everyone needs network 12:46:44 yeah since blocking is IP and domain based 12:46:56 In fact the guy I’m talking about is Michael Boehm 12:46:58 That obviously was not his real name 12:47:24 But he was the #1 spammer in the world on spam house for ages 12:47:39 > Michael Bohm is a German male weightlifter, competing in the 85 kg category and representing Germany at international competitions. He competed at world championships, most recently at the 2007 World Weightlifting Championships. 12:47:49 Reverse engineered the BGP protocol and started hijacking Microsoft unused IPs somehow 12:48:11 Sending spam with them 12:48:55 These massive companies still just hold them using them for nothing, and if you don’t announce and IP via a BGP it’s possible to hijack them, not sure if that’s still the case 12:49:14 These massive companies still just hold them using them for nothing, and if you don’t announce the blocks via a BGP it’s possible to hijack them, not sure if that’s still the case 12:49:48 1. that is still the case (ik people who do) 12:49:57 2. pretty impressive to reverse engineer an open source protocol 12:50:17 I only got 20% of the story give me a break 12:50:25 shortwavesurfer2009: a thousand thumbs up are less effective than someone make a pull request https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/9443 12:50:38 He was very secretive about that shit he was doing 12:50:41 yeah dw, he is knowledgeable thats for sure. glad you know this kind of people 12:51:07 I been to Thailand with him several times 12:51:25 He was running it over there 14:17:31 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Everyone will use ipv4 till the end of time 14:17:52 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Which will be soon™️ 14:24:45 NO MORE IPV4. Somebody should hold a sign like that up behind a senator or something like the Bitcoin person did in 2017 or whatever. 14:28:03 <3​21bob321:monero.social> What do we want 14:28:07 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Ipv6 14:28:17 <3​21bob321:monero.social> When do we want it 14:30:54 10 years ago 14:48:13 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Answer is now sir! 18:32:00 Monerod doesnt even properly support ipv6 yet. it has ipv6 support but iirc the logic for it is bad 18:33:05 I think it has to be explicitly enabled, no ipv6 seed nodes, something something that i dont remember 18:34:08 RPC over v6 works and manual peering over v6 works (from what i can tell), but automatic bootstrap anf node peering is v4 18:35:50 Yeah but it doesn't enable ipv6 by default, so the network of peers doesn't really exist 18:37:18 Not sure how it handles a node that has ipv6 and ipv4, if it would connect twice or what. 18:47:14 cc: @boog900:monero.social i'm curious about that 18:48:28 Monerod disable ipv6 by default because there is a risk of sybil attacks (aka consensus attacks), iirc the last news was that they wanted to chop the ipv6 to /48 to avoid too much spam. But you should look at the issue, everything is explained on it 18:49:48 Yeah, I think I saw that bit about them wanting to chop it down to smaller segments. But I have not looked into it super recently. 19:07:37 I can't see a reason a node wouldn't connect twice, they would see 2 separate addresses 19:07:59 The peer_id would be the same but that is only checked against our own peer_id IIRC not other peers