00:03:02 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> What's the problem with signal knowing I'm in a monero group?
00:03:40 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> well if you were going to say "but what if the govt audits signal and finds I was in that group!" or something then that would dispell that
00:05:05 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> also i just responded to your argument so respond to my response
00:05:19 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> also i just responded to your argument so respond to my response please
00:06:11 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> I don't know what problems with matrix you're referring to but what's more worrying to me is that signal could get breached and all the "hidden" phone numbers revealed
00:06:43 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> thats a good criticism honestly
00:06:56 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> didnt really think of it
00:07:17 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> but just having a phone number in signal isnt really compromising
00:10:02 <m-relay> <h​egelo:matrix.org> Hi people why is that implemented in the wallet zip file ?
00:10:05 <m-relay> <h​egelo:matrix.org> Trojan:Win32/Phonzy.C!ml ?!
00:10:34 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> Where did you get the zip from?
00:11:28 <m-relay> <h​egelo:matrix.org> https://www.getmonero.org/
00:11:39 <m-relay> <h​egelo:matrix.org> the official website
00:13:19 <m-relay> <h​egelo:matrix.org> both zip
00:13:27 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> Should be safe then, the detection might be because it contains the code for mining, which happens to also be in a lot of malware
00:13:32 <m-relay> <h​egelo:matrix.org> with differente Trojan
00:15:42 <m-relay> <h​egelo:matrix.org> code for mining is automatically executed ?
00:16:37 <plowsof> no
00:16:47 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> No, you need to go out of your way to set up mining and click start
00:17:23 <m-relay> <h​egelo:matrix.org> Trojan are automatically executed how would windows detect it as Trojan then
00:18:50 <m-relay> <h​egelo:matrix.org> I'm gonna take a peek on the source code if it is open sourced
00:19:07 <plowsof> https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/10798/my-antivirus-av-software-blocks-quarantines-the-monero-gui-wallet-is-there
00:19:31 <plowsof> main repo here https://github.com/monero-project 
00:19:38 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui
00:21:14 <m-relay> <h​egelo:matrix.org> thank you very much
00:33:50 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> If you want to be extra sure you downloaded the real wallet, follow the instructions under "Show hashes to verify your download" and/or build it yourself from source
00:35:11 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> getting a phone number revealed isn't compromising
00:35:39 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> as all it's associated with is that someone uses signal, not what they do with it
00:35:41 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Well, depending on where you are, you can get name/other info from phone numbers
00:35:51 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> It depends on your threat model
00:55:29 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> true
01:40:18 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> is simplex just worse than element?
01:40:26 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> i dont think it has a desktop app
01:41:34 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> it does now
01:41:39 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> GUI and CLI
01:46:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> No
10:19:19 <plowsof> https://ccs.getmonero.org/ideas/ 
10:29:33 <plowsof> more terms to learn: web wallet vs browser wallet 
10:35:22 <m-relay> <n​vmitsmatrixdotorg:matrix.org> Banhammer MOOODS @asdf:matrix.locker98.com is spreading FUD about the best hoster in the world servers.guru!!!!
10:37:04 <m-relay> <a​sdf:matrix.locker98.com> test
10:37:06 <m-relay> <a​sdf:matrix.locker98.com> $help
10:37:06 <m-relay> <a​sdf:matrix.locker98.com> $say test
10:37:08 <m-relay> <a​sdf:matrix.locker98.com> wait what
10:37:15 <m-relay> <a​sdf:matrix.locker98.com> $say test
19:46:55 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> TELL ME MORE PLEASE!!!! https://xmrbazaar.com/listing/comY/
19:47:12 <m-relay> <s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> https://x.com/adamscochran/status/1833323253772730525
19:47:21 <m-relay> <s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Is this true what he is saying
19:49:52 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> Why do common balance amounts matter to him? Is he retarded?
19:50:02 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> Not true
19:54:54 <dEBRUYNE> https://x.com/Protos/status/1833548849266184456
19:56:49 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> https://decrypt.co/248728/monero-expert-fact-checks-chainalysis-video-claiming-xmr-transactions-can-be-traced
19:56:50 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Go news everyone we have a community leader
19:56:54 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Plowsof your fired
19:57:40 <plowsof> the committee has spoken 
19:58:00 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> “Brimer was appointed to the MAGIC Monero Fund in 2022, a committee that decides the future technical direction of Monero”
19:58:00 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> LMFAO
19:58:10 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Aounds like magic bs grant
19:58:53 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Like when jetfund took off, on monerotalk two people were shilling magic
19:59:08 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Sounds like magic bs grant
20:00:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lmao
20:00:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Fkn plowsof
20:01:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> a committee that decides the future technical direction of Monero
20:01:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lmao what am i reading
20:01:33 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Journalist must just believe the first person that comes to them
20:02:33 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> We can sue cause thats inaccurate
20:02:48 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Or fud
20:03:56 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> At least they said run your own node
20:15:53 <dEBRUYNE> The Protos article is actually quite decent
20:30:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Rucknium:  https://decrypt.co/248728/monero-expert-fact-checks-chainalysis-video-claiming-xmr-transactions-can-be-traced
20:35:48 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> A clarification from “the committee” would be appreciated
20:37:46 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> MAGIC
20:38:47 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Hostile takeover
20:38:54 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> >a committee that decides the future technical direction of Monero
20:39:11 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah no they misrepresented that by a LOT
20:39:37 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> they could have used "the" instead of "a" so its not that bad, dont worry
20:39:50 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> nodes also dont secure or enforce anything
20:40:14 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> >or use privacy-focused web browser Tor.
20:40:31 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> holy shit crypto jOuRnALiSm is really bottom of the barrel trash
20:41:02 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> >the Monero council member pointed to a partnership between Monero and cloud-provider Umbrel
20:41:04 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ahhhhhhhhhh
20:41:51 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> >Monero remains the world’s largest privacy coin at the time of writing, with a market capitalization of $3.1 billion. But its market cap has dropped 3.1% in the past 24 hours according to CoinGecko data.
20:41:58 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> starts sentence with "But"
20:42:01 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ffs
20:42:06 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we're reading what ai said after being shown a few emails
20:42:37 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> but this was supposedly stacy
20:42:40 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Stacy wrote for TheStreet Crypto after spending three years as a data analyst and product manager on the Goldman Sachs technology risk team. Prior to joining Goldman, Stacy led the data reporting team at Fortune. Before joining Fortune, she worked as a data reporter at Bankrate and the Star-Ledger. Disclosure: She owns less than 1 BTC and less than 2 ETH.
20:42:57 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> stacy from goldman sachs technology risk team and data reporting at fortune...
20:42:59 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> >Stacy wrote for TheStreet Crypto after spending three years as a data analyst and product manager on the Goldman Sachs technology risk team. Prior to joining Goldman, Stacy led the data reporting team at Fortune. Before joining Fortune, she worked as a data reporter at Bankrate and the Star-Ledger. Disclosure: She owns less than 1 BTC and less than 2 ETH.
20:43:44 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> at least it was kinda neutral even if everything else is pretty damn terrible
20:47:06 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> wait lol it says "Edited by Stacy Elliott."
20:47:26 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> so this is definitely mostly AI haha
20:48:30 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> they only care about clicks
20:50:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Shes had a lot of jobs. She must get fired a lot
20:51:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Soon: "before working for the telegraph, stacy wrote for TheStreet Crypto"
20:55:44 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> this woman probably makes 4-5 times more than me :,)
21:03:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> "owns less thsn 1btc and less than 2 eth" nobody fucking asked
21:03:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> How much monero does she own
21:04:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> None? hFSPPP
21:05:32 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> I own less than 2^64 piconero, it can fit into one measly amount commitment
21:08:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Criminal
21:40:40 <geonic> inb4 article rebutting the rebuttal…
21:46:20 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> Csilla Brimer hasn't been on the MAGIC Monero Fund committee for a year and a half. And it doesn't decide the technical direction of Monero lol
21:49:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lets hope ai wrote the article then?
21:50:27 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> If it's AI, maybe it took statement from Twitter. I don't know.
21:50:37 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Btw. I read it in the news, so it must be true. MAGIC decides the technical direction of monero.
21:51:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (/s)
21:52:10 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> Maybe sgp_  can tweet from the MAGICGrants account to correct the record.
21:54:13 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> if I had to guess, the person writing the article just assumed that person was still on the committee without checking
21:54:37 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> personally I don't see a reason to post about a rando crypto article
21:59:25 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> I assume the author just made this up. clearly that's false
22:00:25 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> no article backlink to magic??? what am I paying these writers for /s
22:04:07 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Ask for a correction