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14:27:06 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> ELI5: seed offsets. Mysu is telling me a seed offset is required for polyseed but optional for legacy
14:38:01 <dEBRUYNE> In case of polyseed I think it is the word that is used to embed the restore height
14:38:07 <dEBRUYNE> ^ shortwavesurfer2009
14:59:19 <ofrnxmr> No
15:00:04 <dEBRUYNE> ofrnxmr: Could you elaborate what it is then?
15:00:05 <ofrnxmr> seed offset is a passphrase, in the case of mysu it is also the password for the wallet
15:00:31 <dEBRUYNE> Ah I see, I got confused by the optional term, because seed offset is indeed used in the CLI too as passphrase function
15:00:55 <ofrnxmr> Polyseed had a bug where it would generate invalid spend keys (iirc) and required a passphrase. Mysu enforced a passphrase  
15:01:52 <ofrnxmr> You csn restore wallets from feather to mysu and vice versa, because they both support psssphrases. Cake doesnt support passphrases, so cake's polyseed wallets cant be restored via polyseed in mysu, but they can be restored in feather 
15:03:20 <ofrnxmr> Tobtoht or mrcyjanek can explain properly 
15:04:48 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Does anybody know if cake is aware that there is a bug and that an offset passphrase should be enforced?
15:05:44 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> I know I was not aware of that, and now I'm quite glad I did not use cake to generate a polyseed
15:07:50 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> And cn that polyseed bug be fixed or is it a spec issue and cant be repaired and all wallets will gorever need an offset to fix that bug
15:08:47 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> And can that polyseed bug be fixed or is it a spec issue and cant be repaired and all wallets will forever need an offset to fix that bug
15:37:25 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> i dont know about cakes implementation, but anonero had that issue and tobtoht fixed it
15:37:34 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> mysu enforces it because it doesnt have the fix
15:38:58 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> mysu enforces passphrase because it doesnt have the fix
15:39:20 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> i dont know about cakes implementation, but anonero had that issue and tobtoht fixed it (but anonero enforces passphrase anyway so no one was affected)
15:41:38 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> and feather has its own implementation so is unaffected
15:41:50 <m-relay> <s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> tuxsudo
16:25:57 <ofrnxmr> Cake doesnt have the bug
16:26:51 <ofrnxmr> "so cake's polyseed wallets cant be restored via polyseed in mysu, but they can be restored in feather "
16:27:15 <ofrnxmr> Because mysu requires passphrase, but feather does not
21:52:58 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Question where did this CARROT thing come from. Never seen it discussed here?
21:59:14 <geonic> I want to clarify what I meant when I said the videos produced by vostoemisio and xiphon are "not up to standards", since that's not very helpful:
21:59:15 <geonic> 1. they're not as easily digestible as the current videos
21:59:15 <geonic> 2. they try to cram too much information and the main points often get buried as a result
21:59:15 <geonic> 3. the voiceover is monotonous and robotic, despite not being AI (AI might actually be better)
21:59:15 <geonic> 4. dark-mode only so far (which I believe is being addressed)
21:59:15 <geonic> Other than that, the visuals look nice. The problems lie with the script and the voice. This could be solved by allowing more time for feedback and sharing the audio track before proceeding with the animation (and finding another VO artist).
21:59:35 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Nice script
23:32:06 <nioCat> dan bob, CARROT came from jeffro and was discussed in MRL / NWLB