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11:33:13 <m-relay> <d​etherminal:monero.social> Creating new accounts is disabled afaik
11:33:15 <m-relay> <d​etherminal:monero.social> > <@smokedkipper:matrix.thisisjoes.site> How to get an account on monero.social?
11:33:17 <m-relay> <d​etherminal:monero.social> Creating a new account is disabled afaik
11:43:39 <plowsof> forced decentralisation, great initiative 
14:22:37 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> Who wants a cumbersome licensing task? 😜
14:24:30 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’ll start with a question actually to be more productive
14:26:17 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> If all packages used in a project are MIT, Apache 2, AGPLv3, Creative Commons Zero am I good to licence it AGPLv3?
14:26:43 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> I have asked AI but I wasn’t satisfied
14:28:07 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> I mean I guess I have no choice if as least 1 of the packages is AGPLv3, my question is more about compatibility with the rest.
14:29:42 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> Oh I’ve got a BSD 3-Clause in here too.
14:30:27 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> 90% are MIT
14:30:33 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> kewbit.org: ^
14:31:00 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> Somewhere to start
14:31:53 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> Actually perhaps I should check licensing before implementing in future haha, I think it’s fine though every package that’s not MIT is replaceable if not compatible, mostly menial features
14:33:20 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> Errr in this document AGPL == to LGPL??
14:33:28 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> Errr in this document AGPL == LGPL??
14:37:23 <cornfeedhobo> k​ewbit: MIT is the least restrictive. AGPL is an interesting choice, since it requires anyone _operating customized source code on a network_ to also release those modifications
14:38:01 <cornfeedhobo> where as, GPLv3 would allow a private company to make modifications, run the nodes, and not have to tell or show anyone what is backing those changes.
14:38:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Only if the product is released publicly afaik (for agpl)
14:38:31 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> AGPL, like GPL is interesting as long as you aren't anon and have funds to go in international trials against people that don't respect it (see Revolt story)
14:39:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> if its "internal" than it doesnt have to be shared
14:39:46 <cornfeedhobo> hmm, i'll have to check that out the Revolt story. i'm not sure how it would impact a purely open project - wasn't it designed in retaliation to service offerings like AWS's redis and mongo implementations?
14:41:06 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> comfeedhobo yeah in part. 
14:41:07 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ofrnxmr yeah only public facing needs to be shared
14:42:53 <cornfeedhobo> it would be interesting to clarify what public facing and offering entail, for the purpose of knowing if it would legally curb chain analytics companies from running a modified version on any of the public nets
14:44:36 <cornfeedhobo> i don't even know if what they do falls under "research" or "commercial activity" - i assume the latter since they sell data derived from that "research"
14:47:09 <cornfeedhobo> From what I'm reading and recall from trainings - I'm leaning towards AGPL for coin projects.
14:49:37 <m-relay> <f​reeaeronaut:matrix.org> I hear that this often, but the most german people just want to speak there mothertongue. thats why im going to translate it. :)
17:23:14 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’ve always been pro AGPLv3 since I learned about it’s ultimately the most productive for a dencentralized project, cause it kind of forces to contribute back while still allowing companies to profit. Makes sense for CCS projects and bounties.
17:29:41 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I think ultimately AGPLv3 is the normal continuation for any protective license need. Whether it make sense for a CCS project, bounty is up to the coordinator community to decide if works should be protected or permissive, which is another debate as a whole.
17:30:17 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> There has been a long continuation of debate on why RedoxOS decided to go with the MIT license instead of GPLv3 for example
17:31:40 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and a similar set of benefits have been drawn from MIT: still allowing companies to profit from it. This was a trust<=>adoption tradeoff. MIT means more adoption, which then turns in, with enough trust, contributions upstream. while GPLv3 reduce adoption but overall do not have to worry about trust.
19:49:09 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> You always need to worry about trust
19:50:02 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> You’d be a fool not to I think 🤗
20:50:02 <n1oc> Gingeropolous 1TB MRC upgrade has moved to funding! https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/gingeropolous_1TB_MRC.html
21:08:22 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Congratulations, gingeropolous gingeropolous. https://x.com/MoneroSpace/status/1861879644619784377
21:08:35 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> nitter: https://xcancel.com/MoneroSpace/status/1861879644619784377