00:00:02 you guys should really just try out haveno 00:00:09 Been doing that since LM dead lol, it just work™️ 00:00:23 All my partners have other things to do that sit in front of computers 00:00:28 they only seam to use phones 00:01:13 I take everything I said back. Sorry mbull. Bisq security deposit is ~$200 in BTC. 00:01:20 lmao 00:01:21 It has increased since I last checked. 00:01:49 >to use bisq you will only require a small loan of a million dollars 00:02:20 it just straight up doesnt make sense to buy BTC and then XMR on bisq 00:02:37 it is quite literally cheaper to buy USDT and then buy XMR on ogre 00:03:34 and you are less likely to get your house raided bcs the CEX sees your coins going to ogre, not some guy who will do what knows what with them 00:03:44 Personally, I still think that doing BTC/ETH on CEX and then switching to XMR through Serai is the easier option. 00:03:47 nah 00:03:49 ltc will be better 00:04:09 btc takes too long and ETH can get really pricey 00:04:10 btc takes too long and ETH can get really pricey too 00:04:44 Why? ETH fees are almost free when not dealing with contracts. 00:05:21 depends on how its implemented on serai 00:05:30 Assuming Serai supports L2 networks. 00:05:32 i know serai has eth smart contracts 00:05:46 but those might only be for sending not receiving 00:05:50 Swapping XMR to serai will be nice indeed. 00:05:51 But still extra swapping, time and fee to convert XMR to cash. 00:05:53 I personally do prefer use ETH if I have choice between BTC and ETH, at least ETH, I can plan my schedule ahead 00:05:55 Will Serai be ETH L1 or L2? 00:05:58 eth L1 at launch 00:06:01 supporting* 00:06:08 Will Serai be ETH L1 and L2? 00:06:42 ETH, BTC, XMR, DAI 00:06:50 (dai on eth l1) 00:06:59 Remembering that time when I walked in the middle of not my city for 4 hours waiting for the bitcoin to confirm... so I can get cash lol 00:07:20 that time i waited 45 minutes for 2 btc confs 00:07:28 (it was the last time i used bitcoin) 00:09:10 That's nothing 00:09:11 My record was evicion lol 00:09:13 That time when you use max fee as usual and someone manage to time your sending of bitcoin right before a massive surge 00:09:15 Another time I did a unstoppable and the corn was stuck for 8 hours... I needed to be back online 12H after to "claim a refund" 00:09:26 ETH L1 transactions are extremely expensive for smart contract interactions. The cost of swapping on ETH L1 now is $34.65, while Arbitrum transactions are approximately $0.001 to $0.01, depending on network traffic. 00:09:44 yeah 00:09:47 It's why I want to ideally only deal with XMR as far as money go. 00:09:47 Other coins only when I flat long them 00:10:00 pretty sure arbitrtum is a candidate for integration after launch 00:11:37 I'm looking forward to the mainnet launch (without audits) later this month. 00:12:00 That is, the release candidate. 00:14:15 Vitalik's probably going to use Serai - that'll be great publicity for Monero. 00:19:00 I have only ever used actual bitcoin once; I had bought around $100 worth of bitcoin before the price jump in 2021 which brought it up to around 138 00:19:01 I decided that I should send it off-exchange for security because “that’s how real people do it”. Bad mistake, because this was during the bitcoin boom, and transaction fees and times were exceedingly high. 00:19:03 I sent it to my exodus wallet, and then ended up sending it back onto the exchange in shame because I couldn’t afford the fees to use it for anything else. The cost of that little endeavor was basically all of the gains. 00:19:48 After that I realized that Bitcoin wasn’t actually feasible to use; it would take me many years to eventually find Monero though 😂 00:20:03 Is Monero vulnerable to the same problem if its usage and price are equivalent to those of Bitcoin? 00:20:56 At least monero block size are variable and will grow with demand. 00:20:57 Surge will increase the fee but then the block will grow to eat the backlog 00:21:47 That got tested (and fixed) during last March stress test 00:24:43 My concern (which I’ve mentioned on and off for a while) is *how much* can it grow before we start having larger issues? 00:25:52 Because Monero is not Bitcoin: it is going to have a *lot* more transactions going on if/when things start taking off 00:26:07 Well, the main issue seam to be the RPC part of the nodes. 00:26:07 Specially **wallet nodes**, get hammered harder when demand grow. 00:26:09 That will have to be somewhat optimized or the system have to be used in more decentralized way. 00:27:07 Tbh imo it would be wise for us to remove the wallet-node separation and make the node light enough to be ran by anyone, even with a cell phone 00:27:25 Though that would have unique issues for scalability too 00:27:41 Well, the phone don't have the storage capacity 00:27:46 most phones** 00:27:58 Scalability sucks because you have to be perfect, because your imperfection *is* your scalability 00:28:20 non, wallet would have to connect to more random safe nodes. 00:28:21 Or wallet user maintain his own node 00:28:23 Instead of 10000 wallet trying to RPC one node 00:28:32 This could be addeessed through some magic trick encryption thing (I forgot the name of it) 00:29:30 this has been a problem i've wondered about for a long time. even if you don't hand over view keys for wallet scanning, you then incur lots of data costs to pull blocks and scan the chain locally. 00:30:29 Ik it’s a controversial opinion to have, especially since we are pretty far ahead of a lot of other chains, but Monero’s main issue atm is scalability, in terms of storage space, bandwidth, and latency. These are all problems that we unfortunately inherited from our “upstream” blockchain roots. 00:30:30 It's the same problem for all the blockchains. 00:30:31 The blockchain have to be stored somewhere. 00:30:33 Light wallet can help, but you need to run a vps somewhere (or host your own) 00:32:13 ArcticMine solved this problem. 00:33:15 ArticMine solved this problem. 00:33:33 I think he mentioned that in the future, advancements in storage, RAM, and other components will lead to improvements in scalability, making it no longer an issue. 00:34:37 I keep hearing this mythical name, and I hadn’t even heard of him before today despite me 1. Trying for a while to figure out the members of Monero Core using publicly available knowledge, and 2. Looking into how we could make Monero more scalable 00:35:02 Although ig I must’ve seen his name in the one monero meta folder with all the signing keys 00:35:48 yeah, that's the downside. and some people like to wave off the concern and effort of setting up a vps, but imho, it's non-trivial. most providers aren't going to offer the 200+gb needed for storage, and then you have to consider datacaps, how to pay them, which company to trust, what country you want your server in, etc etc. it's a whole rabbit hole. 00:36:19 Storage is almost free 00:36:19 Bandwidth is free 00:36:21 latency is not a problem 00:36:57 I highly recommend watching this talk on scalability by him: 00:36:57 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RJ5HDmuucY 00:37:06 Which I would agree with….if the blockchain didn’t grow et infinitum, and the bandwidth wouldn’t grow to absurdly high levels which would need to be multiplied by the number of nodes, which *speaking of which*, the latency issue would become an issue if Musk gets his way and we have 1 million people on Mars and some of them want Monero (ik its far fetched, but we shouldn’t 00:37:07 explicitly lock this out) 00:37:10 respectfully, that's the hand waving i mean. storage is not almost free. there is a literal price on it. BuyVM has some of the best prices in north america and most of those instances don't offer 200gb+, and they're almost always sold out 00:37:18 Will do 👍 00:39:15 i'll concede that while bandwidth is not free, the caps are generally big enough for a monero-specific node (avg 1tb/node/month) 00:40:02 latency is not the problem, jurisdiction is. i'll speak for myself - I don't like european hosts. I prefer sticking to the USA. 00:43:54 Latency shouldn’t be an issue so long as the most recent node can be consistently propagated before the next 00:44:30 It’ll be the secret final boss of scalability 00:45:55 yeah, i guess that's a good point - i've never had latency issues so I never thought about propagation. I see why it was brought up now. 00:47:29 Main problem is that RPC is not really multithreaded, so a full node running on a 192 cores Epyc will be saturated with 0% CPU usage (aka RPC taking 100% of one or two cores) 00:47:43 that's what brought nodes down during the stress test 00:47:55 Why wasn’t this realized sooner??? 00:48:02 wow. yeah, great call out. 00:48:19 We did not have such a stress test before 00:49:06 That is fixed many way, more people run nodes 00:49:07 Wallet can use more nodes (I think feather is the best for that) 00:49:09 Or Wallet use there own node (like monero-gui), in that case no problem but it's going to use storage on your system 00:49:19 or of course, improve the code so it's more thread friendly 00:50:02 I guess not, but if the current consensus for network operations relies somewhat heavily on having concurrent RPC calls to nodes (translation: more than one user per node) then the RPC being multithreaded is somewhat implied, at least I would’ve thought so 00:50:08 Hmm 00:50:23 Maybe I’ll take a look at that code later; is it still not multithreaded? 00:50:46 I did not look at the code 00:50:47 But I did look at my node metrics 00:51:19 There is some locking somewhere or something idk 00:51:26 Tbh I absolutely suck at multithreading, but I’ll see what it currently looks like 00:53:25 If everyone did run there own node that would be a no issue 00:53:25 But it's too much to ask everyone to have a node I think. And it's nor normies friendly enough 00:53:41 s/nor/not/ 01:04:46 Will Cuprate be able to fix the multithreading problem? 01:05:04 Maybe, you are asking the wrong person 01:05:28 @boog900:monero.social 01:05:55 It's more complex than just putting more threads. but yes, Cuprate should bring parallelism improvements 01:07:55 Severing data to wallets and verifying the blockchain are two different tasks that even two different programs can do. Bitcoin and its cousins do it by delegating the wallet-serving task to an Electrum server 01:08:02 Is Cuprate currently capable of hosting nodes, or is it still in active development? 01:08:07 Serving, not severing* 01:08:36 I suggested to cuprate devs to architect things so that the tasks could be separated. I think they are trying to do that. 01:08:57 It is still in active development and not ready for test release. But cuprate is already capable of serving p2p network and syncing blockchain 01:09:56 boog I think you were writing but the window as too low, sorry if I cut your response 01:10:58 Is Cuprate simply a rewrite of the existing node implementation? If so, could using a tool like TRACTOR help accelerate development? 01:10:59 https://www.darpa.mil/program/translating-all-c-to-rust 01:11:12 OMG NO IT ISN'T 01:11:17 hmm, I like where where the tractor come from lol 01:11:31 hmm, I like where the tractor come from lol 01:11:38 I do have plans for a separate binary just for RPC, although we aren't doing that currently 01:12:25 Sorry for these naive questions. I'm having trouble finding reliable information on Cuprate due to its limited documentation. 01:12:32 No, its a complete different design 01:12:43 In an ideal world where we value performance over everything, Cuprate would have had to be architectured as one thread, do everything and each thread have its own database and async runtime. but that would have been... horrible 01:14:13 and only useful in case of high parallelism. 01:14:33 I dunno how would you handle an incoming using multiple threads? 01:15:19 like Actix, one real time thread dispatching requests around 01:15:31 like Actix, one real time thread with the socket dispatching requests around 01:16:28 I think nginx had some docs on that pattern 01:17:43 *incoming block 01:19:55 This is probably only beneficial if requests are independent, when verifying a block we dispute txs to be checked over multiple threads using `rayon`. 01:20:23 *distribute 01:20:27 I was mainly talking about RPC 01:20:29 huh 01:20:34 matrix hello ? are you okay 01:21:24 i was talking about RPC not P2P. This one cannot be independent. 01:21:57 You would have a P2P pool that would validate and interact with the network and *feed* the RPC threads that all have their own txpool/database 01:22:19 OK yeah that makes sense 01:22:29 I know, this is completely overkill compared to a different binary, all you do is avoiding context switch 01:22:58 well actually no 01:23:10 nvm what i said 01:23:40 each thread having their own database make them independent, an rpc binary would still fetch at p2p binary database, not duplicating it 01:26:06 LMDB supports multi-process access, but yeah I don't know if avoiding the context switch is worth not being able to use multiple thready to get data for a single request 01:26:29 LMDB supports multi-process access, but yeah I don't know if avoiding the context switch is worth not being able to use multiple threads to get data for a single request 01:28:22 well in practice, independent actors have always been the pattern of choice for serving requests, because the performance are predictable (thread local). relying on multiple threads means relying on OS scheduler and runtime scheduler. Do i think it's worth it? absolutely not, would be horrible to code and get right, and current architecture is already excellent enough. 01:29:02 It would be great if a phat ass server could have 1 docker instance doing the righting and have 9 others just reading the same volume 01:29:19 It would be great if a phat ass server could have 1 docker instance doing the writing and have 9 others just reading the same volume 01:29:56 But by simply reading you’re locking the LMDB file right? 01:30:03 I wonder if there is a workaround 01:30:49 One database, multiple threads. 01:30:49 One P2P binary, multiple RPCs 01:30:51 One database docker, 9 rpc docker 01:30:53 We're really just onto the same resource contention. 01:31:32 I think it might bring performance improvements but just because of the scheduling 01:31:34 What do you need the RPC for 01:32:00 making people wallet works 01:32:31 Because I am doing something interesting with https://crates.io/crates/monero-wallet 01:33:02 Memory guarded multi instance 01:34:17 I’ll I’ve been working on it instead of Haveno for a bit cause cause woodser needs it 01:35:39 I’m adding Dart FFI hooks too, so you don’t need to start a http server for each lol 01:35:55 Cause I just love dart 01:41:52 I would strongly recommend against that and I would point you to monero-serai/monero-oxide or kayabanerve's monero-wallet: https://github.com/serai-dex/serai/blob/develop/networks/monero/wallet/Cargo.toml which is now going to need a name change :( 01:43:17 Has this been audited? 01:43:41 Is currently being audited: https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/monero-serai-wallet-audit.html 01:44:01 If I recall correctly, the CCS funding for this audit has recently been completed. So no audits. 01:52:25 Oh! It’s been done already? 01:53:03 Interesting 01:53:47 I’ll check the spec 01:54:33 I had a specific operational philosophy for this one 01:56:13 The audit is 1000 Xmr 01:56:27 The fuck 01:57:15 👃👃👃 01:57:31 It's way more work than you realize 01:57:32 Can you smell that 01:57:45 No I completely get it, 01:57:48 I realise 01:57:56 But 1000 01:58:03 I can smell you being jealous. You now realize that you could've scammed more from your CCS. Oh well. 01:58:07 That’s an absolute piss take 01:58:28 I don’t get jealous 01:58:48 It’s one of my Devine personality traits 01:58:54 + in monero-wallet you are pulling in deps that are completely unrelated to Monero. For example the `bulletproofs` crate, is not the same as Monero's bulletproofs 01:59:38 Thanks I’ll revise 01:59:39 It's called economics. The supply of people who are knowledgeable and willing enough to audit Monero is extremely small. Therefore, the compensation is large. 02:00:50 Fair play, maybe I undervalued my own CCS, good think to take away for future freelance stuff 02:02:25 May God have mercy on all the clients of your future freelance work. 02:02:32 LMFAO 02:02:34 I was quite excited about learning this, I may just do it anyway for the sake of learning more detail in rust, and the math side of crypto but which is the one that’s Audited I’ll link that 02:03:05 Hey hey! Play nice I haven’t done too badly this year 02:03:11 waiting for le ChatGPT generated audits on pedersen vector commitments 02:03:39 how much time have you spent on it 02:03:56 (monero-wallet) 02:03:59 Bootstrapped it but mostly research 02:04:09 define Bootstrapped 02:04:48 For me that’s planning what libraries I need, planning the project layout 02:05:01 Modules layout 02:05:18 Deciding if something should an abstract module entirely 02:06:11 Of modules don’t exist, how am I going to formulate those crypto functions, finding C++ hooks for the things that are just too hard for me to figure out 02:06:21 If modules don’t exist, how am I going to formulate those crypto functions, finding C++ hooks for the things that are just too hard for me to figure out 02:06:55 I planned and implemented the FFI so I can later hook into dart 02:08:11 Setup how the default config file will look if being used as a CLI or RPC without params 02:08:20 Like daemon address 02:09:06 So not mega far in but I work 3 times quicker than the average person 02:10:47 Which company is doing the audit? 02:12:44 Cypher Stack 02:12:52 Knew it 02:13:00 lol 02:13:21 Fair play tho 02:13:24 Again 02:13:33 :D 02:13:52 <3​21bob321:monero.social> They do most of them 02:14:06 They are very good at them 02:14:46 Tho no one can beat Zellic imo 02:16:32 kewbit.org: did you use chatGPT to build monero-wallet 02:16:43 or even a bit of it 02:44:15 kewbit ... we've been discussing monero-wallet for months ... yoinking the crate name is just annoying. either you're unaware of rust development happenings or don't care 02:47:52 not cool :( 03:00:33 sneurlax: I squat all crates I use/plan to use. 03:04:09 kayabanerve but at least you're not a scammer 03:06:11 Someone deleted monero-wallet two days ago. 03:06:27 It was deleted from the registry two days ago. 03:06:59 kewbit then registered their crate. 03:07:35 He probably asked for it then right? 03:14:43 I had a range deleted. Unclear if automated or provoked. 03:21:26 They only deleted my crates for monero. They didn't touch crates I squat which don't have "monero" in the name. That implies to me the "monero" part was specifically flagged by some entity but I can't comment. I've asked crates.io to restore these immediately. 03:24:06 Did you link a repo? 03:24:44 It doesn't appear to have been done by kewbit yet some automated process I got hit in the crossfire of. 03:24:46 Directly to the crate or serai, I'm wondering if they thought you were just squatting with no work 03:26:46 I would be surprised if they are running automated tools to delete crates 03:30:31 https://lemmy.zip/post/27451318 03:32:21 They had issues with their self hosted fdroid repo and couldn’t get it working with latest version 03:33:34 They said they had issues with it, but I never saw anything saying what issues they had. So this is the first I'm hearing of that. 03:34:01 Still not a particularly bright decision, let's go to a centralized store where any government can just request our app be taken down. 03:34:12 true, let's all fall into the Daniel Micay x Vik conspiracy 03:34:38 True, fdroid should have been kept 03:35:17 False, F-Droid criticism was right 03:35:32 Accresent app is more secure its a fact 03:35:50 Just switch to Obtainium and call it a day. There's not even a conflicting signature so you won't need to uninstall and set it all back up... 03:36:02 I will agree, it does appear to be more secure, but it definitely is more brittle. 03:36:07 Correct, my dear Garfield. 03:36:19 ofrnxmr raised the criticism that he don't want github to have metrics of what application he download 03:36:25 which I can understand 03:36:28 Who? 03:36:38 Fuck that guy. 03:37:08 D'accord rouepourrite 👍️ 03:39:07 That pretty much leaves Monerujo and Stack as the only two capable Android wallets. 03:39:10 F-Droid is a facade 03:39:21 Cake is dead. 03:39:33 > While updating some image-related stuff today, I've enabled proxying images for Lemmy.zip. This was a feature from lemmy 0.19.4, which is summed up as: 03:39:35 > 03:39:37 > "This prevents deanonymization attacks where an attacker uploads an image to his own server, embeds it in a Lemmy post and watches the IPs which load the image." 03:39:39 > 03:39:41 > Let me know if you see anything weird happen with images. Doesn't affect old images, only new ones, and I can turn it off pretty easily if there's an issue. 03:39:43 I’ll link you a good read 03:39:56 Meanwhile in Lemmy instances whose sysadmin knows what they're doing... 03:40:02 Ok doomer. 03:40:12 Who's Daniel Micay ? 03:40:23 My brother in Christ... 03:40:44 I do understand that F-Droid has some security issues. However, they had their own repository, so they were signing the files themselves. 03:40:54 The best security architect/developer you'll ever see in your entire life, that's Micay. 03:41:04 If I have to rely on centralization for a little more security, that does not seem like a good trade-off. 03:41:07 Also the most insufferable autistic moron. But that's for another day. 03:41:14 Lead developer and founder of GrapheneOS. Security researcher. Lord of schizophrenia. Internet though guys since 1984. Has been raided in his house by his ennemy 30 times (in his head at least) 03:41:33 Hey Micay, how are you? 03:41:45 LIBEL MISINFORMATION HARASSMENT SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE!!! 03:41:58 accurate 03:42:03 CALYXOS TECHLORE!!! JAMES PLEASE GIB COPPERHEADOS BACK! 03:46:52 I still admire how he managed to create a cult out of depression and anxiety on the state of world security 03:49:06 [@syntheticbird:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/@syntheticbird:monero.social) my most bruv moments are when someone simply asks the GOS account on socials for X or Y question and Micay hops on keyboard, replies with 10 different posts and each and all of them are the same words in different order, talking their ears out about how GOS and him are under permanent attack from Ross man, Techlore, CalyxOS, CopperheadOS... 03:49:40 My dude he was asking you if you wanted cheese on your tacos, not to deafen him with your libel and misinformation! 03:50:21 For a while he was taking it the extra 30 miles and claiming he had secured funds to sue all of them for all the "substantial" damage caused... 03:50:45 He hasn't had enough with James dragging the CopperheadOS dispute in Canada for years and years... 03:51:20 That's why I said earlier Kewbit situation reminds me of Micay. 03:51:24 mamma mia 03:51:56 Coding geniuses tend to be autistic, and I don't mean that in a bad way, just a palpable fact. 03:56:34 That is statically correct 03:57:29 Look at yourself in a mirror! 😍❤️ 03:57:30 They also have the most trouble communicating and making good real life common sense decisions. 03:58:25 I just my see a humanoid organism slowly decomposing from the stress of a CCS 03:59:01 I just see a humanoid organism slowly decomposing from the stress of a CCS 04:37:14 I agree my autistic son is math guru and pretty mean coder but terrible in social settings 04:43:08 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Remember end of month, we will have getmonero cert expired party 04:54:34 kewbit.org: Are you willing to transfer management of monero-wallet to boog900: given that name is for an existing library in the ecosystem which we just raised funds to audit? 04:55:05 Also given the name's availability is solely due to my account being accidentally flagged as spam when it is not in fact spam. 04:57:21 You can add them as an admin via the crates.io website and immediately clear that up. I'm unsure if you can remove yourself/set boog900 as the owner or if boog900 would remove you after accepting the co-admin responsibilities. 06:47:24 Huh? No im working on a version 06:48:35 Is this related to serai or monero? 06:49:28 I have specific goals 06:49:44 Has someone already made a fully working rust wallet and can prove it? 06:50:42 Like you can prove yours? 06:51:47 You make me sick bro, just everything you say 06:52:01 Ask me if I give two fucks. 06:52:14 Constant digging and shitting gets tiring lol 06:52:21 Just give it up 06:52:27 The day you shut up and put up, it ends. 06:52:29 You’re like a child 06:52:47 Have you ever heard of this artifact known as a mirror? 06:53:03 Sadly for you imma be around for a long ass time 06:53:05 Use it. The lack of self awareness is exorbitant. 06:53:20 Let me check the books... 06:53:43 You just "returned" few hours later after quitting for good for the 9th time just yesterday. 06:53:50 Go on write another shitty newsletter about it 06:53:56 "a long ass time", more like until I have the next meltdown. 06:53:59 Clown. 06:54:07 Faggot 06:56:59 kewbit.org: monero-wallet, the one being audited, is already a complete wallet in that it can scan and send transactions without using any C(++) code from the Monero project. 06:57:15 Nice 06:57:18 Where is it 06:57:23 Source 06:57:46 Do you mind if I see ? 06:58:15 https://github.com/serai-dex/serai/tree/develop/networks/monero/wallet 07:02:50 This looks pretty neat, is it serai agnostic though? Lots of references to serai in cargo.Toml 07:03:21 It has no Serai code in it. Its named Serai because it was developed under Serai. 07:04:06 Is is it memory guarded 07:04:16 That's why the underlying lib, monero-serai, is being rebranded to monero-oxide and moved to a new governance structure (for clarity). 07:04:21 It has no Serai code in it. monero-serai was named that because it was developed under Serai. 07:05:17 Secrets are wrapped in Zeroize to ensure deletion from memory on drop. If you want something more, feel free to make a PR. 07:06:35 *and to ensure neutrality 07:08:01 And multi instance 07:08:03 And multi instance 07:08:16 Sorry phone died 07:08:26 Syncing 07:09:04 It is inherently multi-instance as it doesn't have any global scoping, leaving the user to manage instances themselves. 07:09:48 Does it function as an RPC a Lib and a CLI? 07:10:07 Or just lib 07:10:20 It itself is a lib. PRs for an RPC and CLI around it welcome. 07:10:26 Makes sense 07:13:35 So, are you fine with this kewbit.org: ? 07:26:40 Happy international volunteer day, everyone! 🥳 The prestigious XMR workgroups celebrate all together in this beautiful day! https://nationaltoday.com/international-volunteer-day/ 07:42:43 I’m just reading it cause I looked for ages for a rust wallet before starting but it looks like you got a hell of a lot further than me 07:45:07 It would feel rude not to give it to you 07:46:06 Any plans for FFI hooks? 07:46:11 Thank you for the acknowledgement 07:46:50 Monero is adding FFI hooks into various libs contained for the next protocol upgrade, so you can call FCMP++ prove/verify from C++. 07:47:01 There'll also be work to migrate existing wallet2 multisigs into this scheme. 07:47:22 Nah fuck c++ 07:47:30 Dirty language 07:47:49 There's not plans to add FFI into it directly though. 07:48:01 I said it'd be callable from C++, not that it'd be C++. 07:50:13 I only ask because haveno could benefit from this too and use dart FFI interface 07:50:29 Uhm I guess I just throw my shitty code in the bin then lol 07:50:36 🥹 07:50:47 If an FFI is added around it on the Rust side, it'd be callable from anything supporting a C FFI. 07:51:51 That'd include Dart, presumably 07:52:14 Yes 07:53:25 The existing FFI work is derived using cbindgen (not cxx) 07:54:43 Say I had multiple wallets going at the same time, could it manage the sync of them asynchronously using the same blocks or would it resync each wallet sequentially say, starting from the lowest block height 07:54:44 I’m just trying to understand if have I can use this now or now 07:54:55 Haveno*** 07:55:18 Haveno tries to keep open multiple RPC daemons 07:55:26 You'd download the block once and process it multiple times. The scan process is done with no IO, solely the results of the IO, letting the two pipelines run independently. 07:55:41 The work independently which isn’t effective all the time 07:57:45 Ok but I will add FFI 07:59:29 Meaning? 08:01:13 So I can interface dart with it 08:01:25 And add it to haveno 08:01:39 I'm fine with a PR for that 08:02:10 But I'd also like to circle back on getting this transferred to boog900: of Cuprate so I'm not actively concerned about that 08:02:51 Is that happening? Are you saying you want to add FFI to your crate and that's your justification for keeping the monero-wallet name? 08:03:02 Sorry, I'm just unclear 08:03:13 Yeah ownership I’m not fussed about just functionality 08:03:42 Great. Please let me know when it's happened. I'll follow up with boog900: then 08:04:41 Also, please keep an eye on the monero-oxide organization. That'll take over responsibility of monero-serai (rebranding it in the process) and monero-wallet may also be moved there 08:04:48 And thank you 08:05:02 Well I registered it for the purchase of building it for haveno but also adding cli and lib and also FFI so a broader spectrum of apps can use it 08:05:11 Purpose* 08:06:10 will you transfer monero-wallet to cuprate and remove yourself / lock the door on the way out and put the keys through the letterbox? 08:06:12 But yeah same as what you’ve done it would be haveno agnostic 08:06:34 plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: Can you stay out of this? 08:06:36 Wait is this a hold up 08:06:40 Haha 08:06:53 Because I dude I get so much shit from this community 08:07:10 Did you do a CCS too? 08:07:21 Kabaya 08:07:33 Kaya* 08:07:37 I've stayed out of your prior discussions (AFAICR) as it isn't my business and I haven't cared to step in. 08:07:47 No I know 08:08:11 I'm only stepping in here because monero-waller was built over years and I did have that name until two days ago. 08:08:12 Just interested if people treat other developers like shit 08:08:14 That bare working their asses off for then 08:08:18 kayabanerve thats what you want, and he needs to clarify to save time here 08:08:23 I found it I didn't anymore when exactly what I was trying to stop happened: someone else registering it. 08:08:24 That bare working their asses off for them 08:08:57 boog900 08:09:25 plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: Seriously, fuck off. 08:10:20 I did two CCSs for my development. One was retroactive. One is payment pending yet complete, with all the work available under https://github.com/kayabaNerve/fcmp-plus-plus 08:10:51 Did they try to not pay you on any milestones? 08:11:19 are you ok? did you miss the 1000+ messages yesterday? you can talk through the request at hand or get it clarified 08:11:34 It's pending review by a qualified developer (as I requested as part of its due diligence and the CCS being responsible) 08:11:56 So you haven’t been paid anything yet? 08:12:20 You’re waiting for the audit first 08:13:10 I didn't do a CCS for monero-serai/monero-wallet. I did a CCS for their audits. 08:13:22 I was paid my retroactive CCS. 08:13:47 I also am co-chair on a fund, escrowed by the CCS, which has paid several contract agreements. 08:14:09 I also did a CCS for my work developing the FCMP++. That's just pending the due diligence. 08:16:42 So I've been paid one to me, pending due diligence on another (it's only been a few days on a massive amount of specialized code), and manage one which has paid out as expected of it. 08:18:02 Ok imma DM you just quick but yes I’m transferring that to boog for you 08:18:50 Thank you :D 09:33:10 Hi geonic, the call recorder accounting, principles Monero project enforcerer and distinguished film director! May I ask how did the "recap of the event today" go? Any updates? Or are they still digesting the massive event and prepping big headliners on TV azteca with the Monroe Enterprise Alliance? https://www.tvazteca.com/ 09:33:11 https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241121#c462527 09:35:17 Salomon asked for a week a week and a half ago! We're thrilled to hear more! 09:35:43 https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241124#c464042 09:44:49 He was writing a report soon to include all links to the 5-6 other hit pieces and we have yet to see it... since... November 24th! https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241124#c463883 09:45:14 some serious pulse fingering the last few days 09:46:26 I cannot believe this still... "finalizó Andrés, uno de los organizadores del evento." LOL https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241124#c463878 09:47:58 How much XMR for this stunt? 36.68 XMR, yessir! https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/commit/810479fd8caa59f69712e19457c47668bbd4722b 11:08:18 monerobull: Do you ever question yourself if your 24/7 Haveno shilling strays into something annoying, or you don't ever question that permashilling everywhere? 🤔 11:08:23 https://redlib.zaggy.nl/r/Monero/comments/1h5peos/xmrglobal_now_live/m0bt94h/?context=3#m0bt94h 11:09:14 Look at that comments history and `Ctrl + F` *Haveno*. lol https://redlib.zaggy.nl/user/monerobull/comments 11:10:07 boo hoo 11:10:09 cry about it 11:10:18 When and if Serai comes out, monerobull is going to be on another level. 11:10:21 The classic childish behaviour of our stellar Reddit moderator! 11:10:34 mr "loses 5 k by getting scammed on telegram" 11:10:51 You keep throwing that punch like it's a golden nugget to silence me and that tells much more about you than me. 11:10:55 yeah i dont care about your opinions anymore 11:10:57 wont let you walk over me anymore 11:11:01 Have manners, idiot. 11:11:12 no it shows how retarded you truly are 11:11:31 The classic childish behaviour of our stellar Reddit moderator! 11:11:53 Go post reddit DMs to prove your "time-consuming" work! 11:12:04 Clown cab. 11:13:33 Look, your honor, two guys DM'd me saying how stellar my contributions are! https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/476#note_26804 11:14:14 The time consuming work? Sticking a thread promoting a Haveno network, as a moderator. Only after you figured how to deactivate the moderator flag to keep rolling the shilling. 11:14:33 Spare me with the nonstop 'anything that is not Haveno, scam' lines lol. 11:14:53 👏 Looking forward to more Reddit DMs to justify the payroll! 11:16:55 Fuck you, bad actor 11:17:10 If he doesn't agree with my antics, he is retarded and a bad actor! 11:17:13 Don't walk over me! No! 11:17:22 Trying to forex on TG? 11:17:25 And this person is a moderator. :D 11:17:34 Yes! I sent 5k expecting 10k back! 11:17:51 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Nigerian prince? 11:19:14 Rottenwheel is nigerian? TIL 11:21:33 Naw Haveno should be stickie though. Real trades. Not whatever bullshit the CEXs are lying about 11:23:18 Point to me to the lying 'CEX' that is one of these nascent, yet unknown p2p platforms a la LocalMonero. 11:23:21 I shall be waiting. 11:26:10 Point me to the lying 'CEX' that is one of these nascent, yet unknown p2p platforms a la LocalMonero. 11:26:27 Not the big CEXs, the p2p marketplaces mbull always shits on because muuuuhhh Havenooooo sirrrr. 11:26:48 The centralized!!!!! screeching is exhausting. 11:27:11 there is no point in having 10 different localmonero clones. they bring nothing new to the table and will all end worse than localmonero did 11:27:19 Centralized == can rug pull, can be taken down. 11:27:19 Closed source == cannot be trusted 11:27:21 Those the only things that matter 11:27:32 You can predict the future! 11:27:50 i can gurantee you that none of these new sites will be around in 7 years 11:27:57 I wonder why so many thousands of users relied on LM for so many years and no one ever lost a dime... 11:27:59 Interesting. 11:28:10 id bet you $5000 but... 11:28:27 Do better, fatty cheeks; those insults are of a kid from elementary. 11:28:28 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Pwnd 11:28:35 Plus, show absolutely no manners at all. 11:28:38 Be decent. 11:28:45 you do realize there is a difference between localmonero and localmonero clone #4 11:29:01 I had no clue! What is it!? 11:29:13 I wonder why it no longer exists. Interesting 11:29:14 I thought they all were controlled by Alex! Illustrate me. 11:29:25 no the issue is that they arent 11:29:44 alex is legit, clone #6 isnt 11:29:45 I wonder why we shouldn't have options that are more user-friendly than the barrier to entry of 10-15% deposit to start trading in the first place... 11:29:58 Or that requires you to have your client on 24/7, else your offers go down... 11:30:02 Or... the list goes on. 11:30:07 we are literally discussing on how to solve it already 11:30:22 But the know-it-all decentralized screecher hides his head in the sand and starts yelling bad actorrrr!!! retard!!!! 11:30:28 I won't let you walk over me ever again!!! 11:30:49 Ok RetoSwap. 11:31:15 ok RetoSwap team member rottenwheel 11:31:17 Hey! I want to buy XMR in the most private way! But first I need Monero... to buy Monero! 11:31:40 check haveno chat 11:31:47 we have a design that can work 11:31:53 Good luck, have fun. 11:32:15 User-friendly != better. Otherwise let’s just use fiat. That’s pretty easy. 11:32:15 yeah 11:32:27 bank transfers are instant and free 11:32:35 Yeah, let's make it as obtuse as possible. Gotta run your client at all times, through Tor, no less, to acquire sneaky bucks. 11:32:39 the bank app also loads faster than cake 11:32:42 no need to sync 11:32:43 Elitism will go long ways! 11:32:53 Might as well go back to fiat bucks. 100%. Such intelligence in this channel! 11:32:54 TLDR? 11:33:07 are you saying its a bad thing haveno runs via tor by default? 11:33:09 lol 11:33:11 what's with the consistent shouting at each other and belligerent reputation attacks? aren't we all supposed to be friends? maybe we need to have a Christmas party. or one of those Anniversary parties, or something, something to stop this madness. Maybe drink, drugs, dancing, etc. would that help? 11:33:13 Create the CoC or we will go straight to $1! 11:33:21 The braincells shortage returns! 11:33:46 Rotten. Shut. The. Fuck. Up 11:34:00 Call the one who figured the 99 line out, that should be able to figure out what I meant. 11:34:02 midipoet, i dont know. someone even paid for rottens flight to monerokon and he didnt seem like such an asshole in person 11:34:10 so i dont think another in-person meetup will do anything 11:34:19 its just that rotten has a big mouth online 11:34:20 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Getmonero cert will expire soon 11:34:23 Rotten. Shut. The. Fuck. Up 11:34:26 So we went from the 5k to rubbing on the face the Kuno thing. LOL 11:34:26 yeah, but he was probably stoned in Prague 11:34:28 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Next drama 11:34:33 maybe he just needs more weed 11:34:37 midipoet I am always stoned. 11:34:45 stoned on rocks 11:35:06 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Keyboard warrior 11:35:13 Keyboard pussy* 11:35:14 There's no need to be rude. I was simply suggesting something that has worked in the past. If you're not interested in setting up a foundation or creating a community guidelines document, so be it. 11:35:15 ok guys, this was some fun sparring 11:35:18 He doesn't put up in person! 11:35:22 Now he wants to throw dukes at me! 11:35:26 id like to get back to work now 11:35:34 thanks mbll 11:35:35 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Solitare ? 11:35:41 rottenwheel: did you ever boof your weed? 11:35:43 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Thanks mbll 11:35:44 Minesweeper. 11:35:55 midipoet I would never boof anything, that's ghey as fuck. 11:36:08 Be careful, the pseudomod will scream OFFTOPIC in 3... 2... 1... 11:36:09 i don't know. looks like fun to be honest 11:36:17 I already did you dumb fuck 11:36:26 midipoet you try it first. ;) 11:36:39 Pseudomods shouldn't be using bad words! 11:36:50 Set the example! 11:36:53 Workgroup. You should stfu and go to offtopic 11:37:03 you should eat a bag of dicks! 11:37:17 monerobull: don't PM me, I won't join room. 11:37:25 nothing more cringe than boofing alcohol and fucking dying 11:37:55 dying to any drug is pretty cringe ngl 11:38:00 ok then 11:38:05 Unless youre rotten, then its based 11:38:11 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/GRwQOPjvePHXtSKmOAwLAhPy 11:38:17 answer here then 11:38:23 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Hmm 11:38:28 No, I legitimately find you insufferable. 11:39:07 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Play nice 11:39:19 Being honest is playing nice, your honor. 11:39:25 monerobull: there is no way anybody should boof beer. sounds seriously messy. 11:39:37 midi they dont boof beer 11:39:42 Lol, crack it up and swallow the beer through your arsehole. 11:39:42 who is they??!?!? 11:39:45 Sounds magnificent! 11:39:46 they soak tampons in hard liquor 11:39:51 wtf 11:40:05 how do you know this 11:40:21 yeah and bcs it goes directly into the bloodstream its pretty easy to die to 11:40:59 too much internet 11:41:21 Monero will not grow with how the community, CCS, X account (who and why is this anonymous person always excited?), funds, etc. are managed. Period. 11:41:25 the nice thing is 11:41:32 monero doesnt really need any of it to survive 11:41:41 Googlemozilla - i agree 11:41:43 if people need it, they will find it 11:42:06 the x account is a crime against the community though, agreed 11:42:11 And i think these people are intentionally bad actors 11:42:43 X account postinf they are excited about basicswap, and basicswap rweet was already excited 11:42:49 It may remain niche forever if changes are not made. If you're not on board with setting up a foundation and CoC, then maybe another approach will work better. To be honest, I'm just not sure. 11:42:59 And posting it 24hrs before another keystone shill tweet 11:43:08 Again... you are super new... 11:43:10 Its all rather fucking disgusting 11:43:39 does bitcoin have a foundation 11:43:48 Blockstream /s 11:44:00 Microstrategy /s 11:44:13 I'm new to Monero, not cryptocurrency. I've been part of the Ethereum community for almost a decade now. 11:44:13 There won't be a foundation. The closest you'll get to a CoC is the libera policies stuff... 11:44:21 Welcome in! What made you look into XMR in the first place, friend? 11:45:01 No. I think leadership is a mess across different organizations, which is why the code is ossified. I don't want that to happen in Monero. 11:45:03 googlemozilla don't listen to the grumpy. we have a super code of conduct waiting to be merged here: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/pull/991 11:45:14 You can let your approval 11:45:23 How long has that been up there for? 11:45:32 April 13. Haha. 11:46:03 Thank you. I'll take a read. 11:46:08 8 months and counting! CoC is around the corner! Better behave yourselves or naughty corner it will be! 11:46:15 Buy b4t2l8. 11:47:22 The chaos that ErC trying do CoC stuff with Haveno generated... 11:47:25 Mamma mia... 11:48:47 hiya 11:49:33 BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN 11:49:33 BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOI 11:49:35 N BUY BITCOIN BUY 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11:50:57 IN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITC 11:50:59 on it 11:51:07 Peace be upon us, comrades! 11:51:11 What the hell is going on... 11:51:26 look at this clown /s 11:51:27 googlemozilla: Timmy Turner going wild with spam accounts raiding the room! 11:53:54 banning impersonators be like 11:54:00 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/ekgXxpCnWrquiyrryLLtYepQ 11:55:37 Imagine not touching grass to the point you raid channels smh 11:55:40 Mαlοri: how the heck did you use that Isabella the Monero girl sticker as a Matrix reaction a bajillion messages ago? Noticed but didn't ask right then. 11:56:08 Mαlοri: Imagine touching grass! 11:56:10 What client witchcraftery was that? 11:56:24 f dosent work on fluffy 11:56:28 nheko! 11:56:33 No, that's sending the actual sticker; I could swear I saw it used as a reaction, though. 11:56:45 monerobull fuk u bitch faggot 11:56:56 ban me from reddit faggot 11:57:05 fuck you fucker ban me from reddit 11:57:05 yeah it was using nheko, I'll get to my puter in a but 11:57:23 yeah it was using nheko, I'll get to my puter in a bit 11:57:25 Mαlοri: no stress, ping me when able to showcase and I'll come watch the magic unfold again. 11:58:04 monerobull haveno fucking go to 0 retoswap scammer fuck you bitch i hope you lose all monero fucking scammer go to 0 11:58:17 Are you my friend 11:58:31 ... 11:58:33 ofrnxmr rugpull fucking scammer 11:58:35 fuck you faggot 11:58:43 Imagine being so obsessed with someone you start not only using their nickname to create brand-new spamming accounts on Matrix, but actually do this, almost every day. Harassment and all. 11:58:44 Hey look, its you 11:58:55 When was the last time you rubbed one off, friend? 12:00:12 Mαlοri: you dick. That's rad. Nice one, gotta check Nheko, whenever my fever for SchildiChat dies off... unlikely. 12:00:14 I don't see why someone would do this. 12:00:16 Send any pic with transparent bg, it looks like a sticker 12:00:28 What is the point? 12:00:38 Siren: no, look, it's the sticker as reaction, not the actual sticker, raw. 12:01:05 Shortage of masturbation sessions, joints, beers, real-life interactions... many such cases. 12:01:39 nah rotten isnt that big of a pussy to use alts 12:02:43 Do you think this troll has a single main account, or is it being run by multiple people? I'm genuinely puzzled as to why they're so upset. 12:02:50 Did they lose money trading Monero? 12:03:09 idk who invited me to revue monero but my server admin is cringe 12:03:09 room complexity is too high 12:03:26 ima bother them 12:03:48 That'll hafta have been me, sir. Weird, yeah. When I shot the invite, it was telling me it couldn't find your username for whatever reason, and I chose to send invite anyway. It registers 4 active sessions when I look into your profile, but alas... 12:04:01 Mαlοri: where do they run that synapse server? An obama phone? 12:04:18 Le matrix momento. 12:04:38 I cannot find the username you just interacted with 2 minutes ago in a public room! 12:04:43 server can tank it he is just scared the DB gonna be 300GB in 3month 12:05:35 googlemozilla: it's probably this guy. They use very similar insults and language, and have a bone to pick with monerobull. 12:06:08 i am so fascinated by the troll let us discuss them all day long 12:07:56 how do you think they like their eggs cooked scrambled or over easy 12:08:59 Revuo will be packed today. 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Are we going back in time now? 12:16:14 https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1120 :D 12:17:11 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/bISVDCTMMqLnjwkiUhRsONNg 12:17:39 Kewbit avatar 😆 12:17:46 i am here to spread the gospel of eggs benedict, sunny side up heathens will be treated accordingly 12:17:50 Someone needs to start documenting these somewhere... 12:18:15 He is the one spamming this room... 12:18:32 kewbit.org: you here with us? 12:18:33 I'm not sure kewbit IS markus 12:18:43 I have summoned the beast! 12:19:11 I think markus riding kewbits name though 12:19:19 Siren: monturokon meeting on Sat, same channel, same hour, aye? 12:19:29 nah. No meeting 12:19:53 For everyone else, yes 😆 12:22:14 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/bGFSXnlxUxiNjzseNZJQSPwj 12:22:15 vote manipulation 12:22:29 the spammer is kewbit isnt it 12:22:41 ? 12:23:03 Damn 12:23:05 if you use updoot bots you probably use spam bots 12:23:24 No? 12:23:30 monerobull: can I delete DEFINETELY NOT EXIT SCAMMING LOL 12:23:33 I’m calling him out 12:23:35 seems like a duplicate post 12:23:37 to me 12:23:50 well ill remove the manipulated version but leave the other one 12:24:03 Haha 12:24:12 You’re a fraud dude 12:24:19 It’s laughable 12:24:21 oh my bad I didn't saw that verdit 12:24:25 yeah all fine 12:24:27 Yes, he is the spammer. These messages were sent minutes apart. 12:24:29 https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241205#c469640 12:24:31 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1h64pz8/comment/m0ixb0i 12:24:36 He is the Matrix spammer as well 12:24:41 I’m supprised by that 12:24:53 LOL 12:24:57 Whatever next 12:25:28 ...and the beast reappears... and the 3k messages session has begun! 12:25:29 guys do i have the green light 12:25:34 this is enough for me to nuke 12:25:35 One minute I’m an exit scammer the next minute I’m a spammer 12:25:52 You choose to be these things unfortunately 12:25:57 i dont want to ban but come on man 12:26:03 Kewbit, the spammer and scammer. Has a ring to it. 12:26:37 Sure 🤗 12:27:00 kewbit.org: you should ask for further proof or something instead of name calling back... 12:27:15 I am giving advice to Godzilla! 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Divide and conquer, they said! Where's our resident conspiracy theorist in here? 12:29:24 i propose mandating two messages of tasty recipe discussion for every message about community drama 12:29:30 we can at least learn to cook while wading through this nonsense 12:29:40 I'll cook your butt bb. 12:29:55 too bad monero keeps improving anyways 12:29:57 Stuffed anchoc butt. 12:29:59 CIA doesn't have enough resources to do this... 12:30:13 Breaking! CIA is broke! 12:30:13 they had enough to capture bitcoin 12:30:24 HE DELETED THE COMMENT https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1h64pz8/comment/m0ixb0i/ 12:30:25 Let's run a Kuno for CIA destabilization campaigns! 12:30:27 After getting caught 12:30:43 Someone should document these somewhere I said... 12:30:48 Lest we not forget the he vindicated himself 12:31:09 People will wonder where that post went 12:31:22 no that was me lol 12:31:24 bcs it was upvote botted 12:31:32 Ah okay 12:31:34 November->December thanks for noticing rottenwheel. I see everything is in order here 12:31:58 plowsof business as usual, mate. Hope you are having a delightful Thursday full of beans and early gray tay! 12:32:23 💅🫖 I'll take care of the kiddos. 12:33:06 ladies and gentelman 12:33:11 ladies and gentelmen 12:33:16 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/YfVdOYpVAwjcPAdexVtRqzoe 12:33:17 we got him 12:33:37 LOL 12:33:44 what can i say man 12:33:48 it doesnt look good 12:33:57 Whoever the entity is, that entity is quite twisted and sick... 12:34:23 Mαlοri: stop using stickers as reactions or I'm gonna block you, you show-off! 12:34:38 * m-relay sobs in SchildiChat tears 12:35:02 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/esfNgWOKQqcAbpQwVBpgXVux 12:35:03 holy shit it was actually him? 12:35:05 or is he trolling 12:35:27 kewbit please tell me that wasnt you 12:35:40 Naaa, without proper linking proof I call it all a false flag op to further damage kewbit's reputation, whatever is left of it lol. 12:36:02 Distraction, destabilization, divide and conquer. My orange agent is glowing big time. 12:36:15 We all have are own mental problems here 12:36:16 The timing is just awful. 12:36:30 kewbit.org: my beloved brother in Christ, we are very clear on that. 12:36:33 They are very personal to us all clearly 12:36:38 Lol 12:36:44 Why did the Reddit posts align so perfectly? 12:36:57 googlemozilla: yeah, that's the oddest stuff, but those Matrix DMs nay nay... 12:37:08 Here ^ 12:37:28 yeah they arent very concrete but the reddit comments and upvote botting is 12:37:29 Why did she delete the comment deleted callout message, though? 12:37:42 an operation as tasteless as beef brisket slow cooked in water instead of a few cans of french onion soup and beef stock 12:37:44 bcs i deleted the comment 12:37:55 Remember when the voting bot was going wild in /r/monero? Hundreds and hundreds of upvotes on random threads, hundreds and hundreds of downvotes... 12:38:05 * m-relay taps the sign... 12:38:07 She? 12:38:16 Siren is a female, sir. 12:38:33 On what grounds? Not appealing it, curious. I don't even remember what the comment was anymore. 12:38:35 i still have trauma from the markov chain bot comments 12:38:48 as mentioned above, the comment was updoot botted 12:39:14 Aren't you deleting the proof that something is off, or also, deleting the proof that links him to the Matrix spammer? :D 12:39:21 Very brilliant move! 12:39:33 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/FOsWtFgxsMyHaclfWWCcLgYW 12:39:37 i can still dig it up if we need it 12:39:57 SyntheticBird: tone it down with the poor lad bro! 12:40:14 Next sexy session we have in our 1:1 room I'll keep calling you silly kitty cat! 12:40:42 This is quite entertaining 12:41:07 i disagree 12:41:09 it really is but it also isnt looking good for you 12:41:29 yeah it is but tbh I dont get what is happening half of the time, I just watch with my popcorns 12:41:45 My money’s on it not being kewbit 12:42:11 So you’ve gone ahead and deleted everything 😂 12:42:12 Another question. Why did the spammer suddenly slow down when kewbit went online? 12:42:14 tell me do you use a mix of 24 or 25 spices for the perfect dry rub 12:42:15 Where did they go? 12:42:18 plz sir 24 or 25 12:42:30 oh lord 12:42:33 I get the reference. 12:42:44 Amazing. 12:48:25 r/privacy had to ban all mention of the OS lol 12:48:53 Ahhh, isn't Micay a fountain of love that keeps on giving and giving!? 12:49:12 Make Micay the Monero CEO and kewbit.org the Monero CTO: we'll moon in autism! 12:50:19 Yeah, some awful coincidences... 12:51:11 Oh ffs 12:51:11 For future reference, if you want to direct message me, *make sure to ping or mention me in one of these channels first. If you don’t I’m going to just reject the dm invitation on principle because I’m not going to waste any more time trying to figure out if you are actually in any of my servers or are just a scammer*. 12:51:32 I'm not a scammer 12:51:37 Why are they so rare in these spaces? 12:51:41 Accept my request please 12:51:46 Oh ffs 12:51:47 The first time I actually put my foot down is the first time it’s actually a person 😂 12:52:30 Because the so-called 'space' is full of rancid fuckboys who tend to stalk and harass women. Should be pretty self-explanatory. 12:52:31 Pull a girl into a sausage party and see what happens. 12:52:56 Worse yet, majority of the dudes are all basement dwelling nerds who are into this weird thing... called... crypto? 12:53:34 Even worserer... if possible, hand these dorks a bunch of monies by holding such crapto tokens. Now they are sex-deprived, basemend dwelling dorks, who sit in a 1 female to a bajillion dudes ratio. 12:53:43 Is that a clearer horizon for you? 12:54:53 and note even regular mainstream crypto 12:54:56 the fucked up druggy coin 12:55:03 and not even regular mainstream crypto 12:55:33 schizo magnet 12:57:24 🤷 something genetic I guess 12:57:47 aremor: let me tell you about one anecdote from a friend of mine. Years back... 12:57:48 Don’t care about government control for some reason. Maybe cause government helps them more or something 12:58:38 She met this prominent BTC influencer at a conference, casually. They "linked up", like exchanged contact information. Fast forward a couple months, in spite of them exchanging **business** contact information, not personal, a package arrived at her actual, physical home address, from this BTC influencer... 12:59:18 The package contained just freebie swag, BTC hats and stuff. The issue at hand is, he stalked her enough to find the personal, family mailing address instead of biz, and instead of giving notice or saying anything, just airdropped it as a "gift". 12:59:28 And that is what women in the 'space' have to deal with. 12:59:59 Yeah mb on denying your dms; you just got unlucky since you were the 17th person to invite me to dms without saying anything first 13:00:01 if monero was a sausage i think it would be a pleasantly seasoned bratwurst 13:00:05 Revuo Monero Issue 220: November 28 - December 5, 2024. https://www.revuo-xmr.com/weekly/issue-220/ 13:00:19 Don’t do this I just ate and I can’t get hungry again 13:00:26 fcmp is the sauerkraut 13:00:36 I like today's issue. Go read it. Mebbe. 13:01:01 lol damn 13:01:32 aremor: mind you, the influencer knew she was a mom to two kids and the husband lived there as well. LOL 13:01:56 Men in the space are absolutely disgusting and all women should stay perma anon for life. 13:02:17 I identify as a fungi! 13:02:51 neat 13:06:59 Hmm 13:07:01 Well then 13:07:14 It isn’t every day that someone admits to you that they want to steal 43 grand from the community….. 13:07:45 I have screenshots of the convo btw 13:08:03 Though I can’t prove it was actually kewbit 13:08:04 Faggot 13:08:08 I trusted you 13:08:12 It was this guy 13:08:17 Allegedly 13:08:34 I thought you wouldn’t delete the convo. That was your mistake. 13:09:00 As much as I need rent money, I don’t need 10 XMR *that* badly lol 13:09:26 Nah, a lot of you incels downright hate women 13:10:09 There are more women around, they just don't advertise themselves as women 13:10:32 Welp; monerobull if you want the screenshots dm me; again idk if it is actually kewbit or someone else trying to ruin their reputation, but 13:11:09 Post screens in offtopic 13:11:13 I'll bring popcorn 13:12:10 at this point i think it really is him 13:13:32 The only reason I’m mildly unsure is because the writing pattern seems somewhat off, like it is someone trying to impersonate him (though it could be him trying to act like someone else; the personality is also a lot more vicious than the normal kewbit) 13:14:57 At this point my opinion is this: kewbit should have until [deadline] to prove that there is source code or at least a binary that exists. If he doesn’t then it should be gone 13:15:06 please kewbit, get some professional help. this is not supposed to be an insult. i dont think it is good for you to be here. take a break. 13:15:47 Btw kewbit to disprove that the person in my dms wasn’t you, send me a working binary. The person in the dms said that there is no work done outside of some ChatGPT UI templates. 13:16:08 the ccs funds will still be here 2 months from now. 13:16:13 Can I see the screenshots? 13:16:33 I’m hopping in the shower rn, but I can do it later 13:16:52 Thank you. 13:17:04 There are plenty of women in this space. But as anonymous as you are, so are they. In technical rooms gender related topics aren't talked about and the vast majority of people do not care about being referred to as "he". I happen to be a public person and this is how others know. 13:18:08 My pronouns are [ze/hir|she/her|they/them]. 13:18:33 This is my safe space. 🌈 13:19:21 EUR/USD/XMR 13:19:55 private/untraceable 13:21:58 There's no point in speculating anymore. I don't want this to drag on forever. It's best we move on. 13:23:18 Bruv, I've been calling for voiding the whole proposal and repurposing those funds for at least two days straight. 13:23:27 Preaching to the choir. 13:23:58 Whether he is the spammer or not, different issue. The proposal should be closed as-is, repurposed and reopened by someone else. By last werk. 13:24:03 Whether he is the spammer or not, different issue. The proposal should be closed as-is, repurposed and reopened by someone else. By last week. 13:24:24 But the ones who can pull the trigger don't do anything. 🤷‍♂️ 13:25:00 Luigi is busy collecting mushrooms for Peach. He will be back soon. 13:25:19 chicken/pickle juice 13:25:29 it is what makes chick fil a so good along with the pressure fryer 13:25:52 Why Ubuntu? 13:34:46 asking me? it is serviceable 13:35:30 they have eased up with with incessant begging to sign up for ubuntu pro, that was the thing that was going to convince me to switch distros 13:36:18 i do not care very much about choice of distro i just like things easy 13:39:21 If kewbit were to release the binary to me, would that be a violation of rule 4 (or at least at this point a significant enough violation to 100% void the ccs) 13:39:23 https://redlib.zaggy.nl/r/Monero/comments/1h771qy/definetely_not_exit_scamming_lol/ I am uhhh confused. Siren 13:39:39 Look at him using long dashes, Oxford commas, being all polite and using pristine punctuation in his reddit thread... 13:39:59 kewbit.org: how many personalities hide in that shell, sir? 13:40:03 (And before you ask no, I’m not going to be running any binaries that he sends me because there’s a fair chance that he is pissed at me now) 13:40:27 > Rest assured, the app is coming soon, and when it does, you’ll finally be free of the Reto client. 13:41:09 > and be able to install from fdroid 😀 13:41:09 He even promises F-Droid (main repository?) listing already! 13:45:43 I feel like now is a good time to ask: who here actually has financial/developmental ties to Reto? We are going to find out eventually, so you might as well state your ties (or lack thereof) on your own terms. 13:46:49 me bro 13:46:52 i'm corrupted 13:47:03 mommy reto give me everything 13:49:42 "At this point my opinion is this: kewbit should have until [deadline] to prove that there is source code or at least a binary that exists. If he doesn’t then it should be gone" preland, please 13:50:06 He can prove a binary exisfs after source is released 13:50:20 That deadline could be today, tomorrow, or, as rottenwheel pointed out, “last week” 13:50:30 I guess that’s fair 13:50:30 I said saturday 13:50:38 Meeting is saturday 13:51:00 He now decides when stuff gets merged and when not! 13:51:12 always have 13:51:14 He also calls people out for misbehaving and engaging in offtopic! 13:51:18 He is the owner of Monero! 13:51:38 No, you never have; you just have a maniac, I-control-everything illusion in your head. 13:51:43 Rotten speaking facts for once 13:51:49 ofrnxmr is like Vitalik. I like it. 13:51:50 I hope his brain doesnt explode 13:51:53 Powered by your nonstop heckling, that is. 13:52:04 the monero kingdom is split into fiefdoms and we must all incorporate our associations into our heraldry 13:52:13 Why can't we be friends 🎶🎶 Why can't we be friends 🎶🎶 13:52:15 The absolute hypocrisy in you acting like a pseudomod is a brillinat joke. 13:52:30 I'm like 5 vitaliks, with no mask and a set of balls that work 13:52:35 who can I pay monero to design my escutcheon? 13:52:37 I also dont sit cross legged 13:52:39 waking up to such scrollback. Is this a house of mirrors? lol 13:52:47 Sexy shorts strolling in MoneroTopia thinking he never revelead who he truly was! 13:52:49 LOL 13:52:57 Sexy shorts strolling in MoneroTopia thinking he never revealed who he truly was! 13:53:00 So anon! 13:53:36 nioCat apparently so! 13:53:48 Good mornin', miau. 13:54:00 meow 13:55:41 Niocat, there was some spam this time 13:56:01 That spam on IRC must look insane. 13:56:42 LOL. https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241205#c469513 13:59:40 do you mean a graphic? 13:59:58 vostoemisio: does amazing graphics and animations for monero 14:01:06 an excellent recommendation but unfortunately i was only making a heraldry joke about people declaring their ties 14:02:58 monero.graphics, vosto, anhdres, diego. 14:03:05 We are flooding in great designers options sar. 14:06:01 user2570 does illustrations and logos too 14:06:57 anchoc: Not sure what a esutcheon is, but we'd love to help you out, I'll send a dm 14:07:34 Ah, np xD 14:07:57 well now that the point is pressed, a monero coat of arms would be pretty sick 14:08:12 hmmm 14:09:42 We've done tons of those before, definitely in our area of expertise 14:13:48 You should totes give him a new Matrix shelter. HL's matrix homeserver is hanging off a thread. 14:14:21 https://forum.hackliberty.org/t/why-we-abandoned-matrix-the-dark-truth-about-user-security-and-safety/224 14:15:02 xenu: ¿Qué tanto lees y no dices nada, culero? 14:55:41 It’s the tube that connects the back of your throat to the inner ear 16:46:58 googlemozilla: The Monero repo already has a Code of Conduct: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/docs/CONTRIBUTING.md#code-of-conduct-22c41 16:47:26 googlemozilla: And there is already a nonprofit org that supports Monero R&D: https://donate.magicgrants.org/monero 16:51:21 It doesnt actually have a CoC. Thats mislabelled 16:51:23 https://rfc.zeromq.org/spec:22 16:51:24 Its C4 16:51:42 > The Collective Code Construction Contract (C4) is an evolution of the github.com Fork + Pull Model, aimed at providing an optimal collaboration model for free software projects. This is revision 1 of the C4 specification. 16:51:56 If it's mislabeled, make a PR. You're working on docs :D 16:53:19 It's intentionally mislabeled afaict 16:54:07 There was a debate about adding a CoC, and it was stated that a CoC was definitely not going to happen. They agreed to use C4, and labelled the C4 as our CoC 16:59:05 https://www.getmonero.org/2016/06/05/overview-and-logs-for-the-dev-meeting-held-on-2016-06-05.html 16:59:35 >  and what I wanted is for yrashk to tell us a little bit about C4 and COSS, and talk a bit about how C4 differs from the dreaded CoC - because adopting a CoC is simply not going to happen, but adopting C4 is a much better option 17:05:39 Would a kind soul have a link or a date at which kewbit ignited the *First milestone source code* drama ? 17:05:51 I need it for documentation purposes 17:18:48 Diego Salazar: 17:23:37 It was ignited when he released binaries 17:23:58 link please 17:24:19 because I didn't find any reference towards these binaries without source 17:24:58 1. Opened ccs, eventually added foss license 17:24:59 2. After some progress, released binaries via reddit or smthn monerobull @monerobull:monero.social 17:25:01 3. Mbll asked "wheres the sause" and kewbir threw a fit and pulled the binaries instead of releasing associated source 17:26:59 the sause play ways hella weird too 17:27:21 new binary release on repository where the last change was 2 months ago 17:28:12 don't forget this 2month ago change was about replacing every mention of `Haveno Plus` by `Haveno` and linking to non existent download linnk 17:29:37 https://matrix.to/#/!cSwJDzxRuWndmFUZTd:haveno.network/$3bnnHXnA5u6nylDrws67V-jTPhH1hmmGU70YaAPudIc?via=xmr.mx&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social 17:29:57 thx u very much kind sir 17:30:25 > i dont get it, there are mutliple recent releases but the code hasnt changed in 2 weeks 17:30:45 > its a big difference if someone has to first notice and call you out on uploading binaries that arent built from the repo they are released in vs you saying it beforehand 17:31:14 Kewbit "Cause literally gunna just pull the plug now, been excited about this project for ages, thought this would be a positive thing! " 17:32:00 idk what kewbit is doing right now but he better prepare his death testament. I'm cooking his grave 17:32:17 ofrn "The red flag here is: two paths. 1. post source or 2. take down binaries. Why choose the latter" 17:35:25 (still sauce) 17:35:42 👇♦FREE‼️ FREE‼️ SIGNALS♦👇 17:35:43 https://t.me/+8_lv2EterKZjZmQ0 17:35:45 CRYPTO TRADING SIGNALS 17:35:47 98% Accurate Signals ✅ 17:35:49 5~10 Signals Daily💯💯 17:35:51 👇JOIN OUR TELEGRAM GROUP 👇 17:35:53 https://t.me/+8_lv2EterKZjZmQ0 17:35:55 @everyone @everyone 17:35:57 Gratitude’s Crown has entered the building 17:36:11 Thats where the drama came. A few weeks went by after that, no binaries, no source, and then he wanted to claim a different milestone 17:38:25 When obviously there exists source for the cancelled released binaries. The drama the payout was "do we move forward and ignore that there are works that were released to the public that are not permissive - the code is not public" or "do we ignore it, since this milestone is unrelated. Even though the ccs should have been cancelled" 17:39:46 The latter being "do we pretend the rule break never happened, instead of enforcing that it must be remedied via release of code? Seemed to be in good faith, so lets just call it a mistake and move on" 17:41:39 It’s probably mentioned in the CCS proposal 17:43:00 👇♦FREE‼️ FREE‼️ SIGNALS♦👇 17:43:01 https://t.me/+8_lv2EterKZjZmQ0 17:43:03 CRYPTO TRADING SIGNALS 17:43:05 98% Accurate Signals ✅ 17:43:07 5~10 Signals Daily💯💯 17:43:09 👇JOIN OUR TELEGRAM GROUP 👇 17:43:11 https://t.me/+8_lv2EterKZjZmQ0 17:43:13 @everyone @everyone 17:45:03 monerobull: spammer present 17:45:48 🔨 17:47:01 Ffwd to 42hrs ago, and kewbit says this https://matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:matrix.org/$UiVsDzUTj4QdaVF87uP5FTyOqV7pA3Oo1MUabp9xGzI?via=xmr.mx&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social "Ok send half the remaining ccs / then other remaining when tested and happy? What do you guys think because I’m doing a full release of everything not just the mobile apps specifically " 17:47:08 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xmr.mx/MsYKGsBfwxSyUpEXWtQXoZhi 17:55:45 Who am I and where are my stuffed animals? 18:00:11 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/rKlNgubiOhPQasvlORIDbzjQ 18:00:13 lmao good one 18:07:18 lmfao 18:14:38 In community workgroup. Clearly lost 18:35:29 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Changing milestones when already wip 18:38:19 While unrelated to ccs, the scummiest part is still licensing this at MIT and never releasing a single drop of the code https://crates.io/crates/haveno 18:40:14 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Not mit then 18:40:32 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Cause not opensauce 18:42:10 There is no code: 18:42:11 https://docs.rs/crate/haveno/0.1.0/source/ 18:42:13 https://docs.rs/crate/haveno/0.1.1/source/ 18:43:58 I've soon finished kewbit's grave if some drama enjoyer would like to review it, you can dm me 18:44:33 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Squatter then 18:47:32 I know 18:49:37 He claimed the code is on his laptop and that he'd share it with a rust dev who proved themselves to him. But its its licensed as mit, with 0 code. 18:50:32 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Lmao 18:50:45 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Ive heard of these people before 18:50:53 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Called Bs artists 18:51:55 Wait wtf 18:51:56 says apgplv3 18:51:57 So he cant ever make it proprietary rofl 18:54:16 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Is making a rust version of monerod enough to be labelled a competent dev? 18:56:51 <3​21bob321:monero.social> On that note. Do you reckon that you can finger print if someone will be using rust version or c version ? 18:58:14 Probably 18:58:26 latter 18:58:53 crabs don't have fingers 18:59:30 Yes you will be able to 18:59:40 <3​21bob321:monero.social> https://monero.town/post/5172146 kewbit? 19:01:33 only LBGTQ+ know how to program in RUST efficiently 19:02:42 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Didnt know sexual preference came into code 19:06:33 Now you do 19:11:53 Is kewbit in the room with us now, Dan? 19:12:08 How many kewbits are there in the room with us? 19:13:29 SyntheticBird the Justice Superhero! 19:15:29 On the other side of the drama, on the factual side, I am still not convinced by that "Many competing Haveno networks are what we urgently need" claim (see the argument towards the end of the linked monero.town post.) To me, that's a little like a claim that we must fork Monero as soon as possible and let a dozen Monero forks bloom. Competition you know, and avoiding monopolies. 19:20:10 Aloha is trash 19:20:12 You have to he competent if you want to compete 19:23:09 yeah 19:23:29 there is a reason why there is and has only been 1 bisq network for an entire decade 19:24:47 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) because the core codebase launched a network 19:29:43 What is that reason, professor mbull? 19:32:22 offtopic 20:26:38 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1h7iv09/drama_the_end_of_kewbigelion/ 20:35:34 #join #p2pool-log 20:42:29 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Gn where all famous 20:42:35 if boog900 could confirm that kewbit has handed over the monero-wallet crate unconditionally after being asked today https://librejo.monerodevs.org/SyntheticBird/kewbit-drama#5-11-2024-monero-wallet 20:42:57 He did 20:43:09 thanks, syntheticbird 20:56:59 Any Cashapp? Chime? Zelle? Btc? Usdt?Skrill? Apple Pay? Pay pal? Venmo? BOA? Wells Fargo? Join my channel 20:56:59 
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Join the telegram channel✅ 21:21:55 Diegos recommendation seems sane https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241204#c468145 , if the source(s) appeared tomorrow with all milestones completed, hooray, payout signed sealed + delivered. now, expiration date : https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/haveno-multi-platform-native-app-for-every-os.html "I do not intend for there to be an expiration date. I plan to rel 21:21:55 ease the app quickly as I am working on it full-time, even before producing a CCS. I see this as an ongoing project but expect to have a beta absolute latest by 31st December 2024." - because ive seen "tomorrow" a few times / using unreleased work as leverage / not trusting the CCS... , i would support it if the community agreed to impose an "absolute deadline" on ALL milestones 21:21:57 being completed. ofrnxmr has suggested a 'FAFO' date of this Saturdays meeting,,, or 31st December,,, or a generic '6 months'. after said date is passed, kewbits claim to those funds will be revoked and the CCS parts ways with him (avoiding any further drama / discussions), and we all ride off into the sunset. Thoughts? 21:23:11 Seems perfectly sane to me 21:24:12 My FAFO date was in line with his request for money and his own stated timeline 21:24:40 my bad forgot to precise. ofrnxmr saturday meeting is sane to me 21:25:22 He claimed he could deliver this week, including releasing apps right now, which means he has source to show, right? Right?? 21:25:33 i guess 31st december is possible but honestly do we want to be lenient with an exposed scammer that just annoyed other major contributors (kayaba) 21:26:10 he gave monero-wallet to boog900/kaya today unconditionally* not sure if theres bad blood 21:26:22 Also, the haveno crate, haveno.com etc. I dont think we should feed this behavior. If he doesnt want to be a "good" actor, he should fuck off with his empty ai repos 21:26:29 oh sorry I didn't know 21:26:35 No need for another 4 weeks of empty repos and posturing + victim card + ai fake shit 21:26:36 slander!!!! 21:27:04 If he doesn't remedy all actions by saturday, i'd vote to axe the ccs 21:27:31 He gave the crate to kaya because he's politicking 21:27:39 He cant afford to make powerful enemies 21:28:32 He squatted haveno.com because he knows woodser wont stand up for himself due to professionalism 21:30:57 Crates.io has new squatting rules if, he doesn't publish code/ a repo we can request the crate deleted 21:31:30 haveno crate^ 21:41:12 thats not what i want 21:42:09 Sure its a good way to solve the squatting issue, but it does nothin to deal with the kewbit issue 21:42:25 The kewbit issue is that the license file there says agplv3, the crate says mit. There is no source. He claims ge has source and that everything he does is foss 21:42:32 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Wonder what vik thinks about it 21:42:52 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Spent all this money for a squatter to takeover 21:43:14 we know what they think 21:43:56 The tldr is: i'm persobally not ok with entertaing a liar beyond saturday 21:44:36 Either cut the bullshit, or fuck off 21:45:56 Sometime authority is part of professionalism. We have no reason to keep bad apples in our basket and then act shocked when the rest start to rot. 21:47:03 I think the collection of evidence I provided made it very clear that continuing to deal with this individual will not only be unethical but also meaningless. 21:47:05 Which means 21:47:05 1. post the source code that you asked for 50% up front 21:47:07 2. post the source for the squatted crate 21:47:09 3. a) turn over haveno.com to woodser and/or b) on your new site, reword all of it to make sure youre not misleading users into thinking that the products you're gpt builds are haveno 21:48:43 Unethical is the best way to put it. Also its extremely _unprofessional_ to continue to give benefit of the doubt to such obvious bad faith actions 21:50:28 So for people who are trying to act professional, the cost is turning the professional env into a diddy party 22:01:22 "a diddy party". That's a good one. 22:04:28 Other parties are available** 22:15:50 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Epstein ? 22:50:00 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Apple cider? 22:50:56 big brain. i kneel 🧎‍♂️ 23:04:43 Any form ideas other than CryptPad? I made one for the MAGIC Monero Fund Voters but I can't open it at all on mobile firefox 23:05:56 I’m for this one; if he actually has anything to show for his work it’ll be revealed here. If what a sock puppet that is either him or is someone impersonating him to harm his reputation, he doesn’t actually have anything past the UI scaffolds that were already presented (nor does he have the capability to actually deliver on the CCS if given a second chance). 23:09:00 I for one don’t want to believe that kewbit did this entire thing either as an egotistical power trip or as a coordinated effort to extort tens of thousands from the already battle-hardened CCS fund, but if he doesn’t show the source…..well, if you can’t see something, it might very well not exist. 23:11:37 Cryptpad is fkn terrible on mobile 23:12:29 I dont know of any good altermatived 23:13:43 I'm trying liberaforms 23:13:57 if that doesn't work I'll use google and try a different option for next year 23:14:07 https://framaforms.org/abc/en/ 23:14:26 Framasoft may be cringe their small services usually works great 23:14:46 sgp_ 23:27:38 liberaforms seems to work okay fwiw. I'll look into the other one, thanks SyntheticBird