00:39:13 Is there a sh xmr escrow service merchants can add to their site 05:06:55 https://t.me/+fk5a2eNOe9BhY2I8 05:06:55 https://t.me/+fk5a2eNOe9BhY2I8 05:06:57 https://t.me/+fk5a2eNOe9BhY2I8 05:06:59 https://t.me/+fk5a2eNOe9BhY2I8 05:07:01 https://t.me/+fk5a2eNOe9BhY2I8 05:07:03 https://t.me/+fk5a2eNOe9BhY2I8 05:07:05 https://t.me/+fk5a2eNOe9BhY2I8 05:09:27 <321bob321:monero.social> monerobull 06:40:07 [@xmrscott:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/@xmrscott:monero.social) [@diego:cypherstack.com](https://matrix.to/#/@diego:cypherstack.com) 🔨🎯 11:58:51 <4rkal:monero.social> Just submitted a proposal to finish developing dmvp2p. https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/531 11:59:03 <4rkal:monero.social> Open to feedback 12:06:27 whats dmvp2p ? 12:12:16 TrueBird: why don't you click the link and find out? 12:12:19 Silly. 12:12:24 <4rkal:monero.social> It stands for Donate Monero Via P2Pool. You can read the proposal to learn more 12:13:12 WOW. I just wake up alright 12:13:27 Let's take this outside, bring the gloves. 12:14:46 Wonderful idea. Looking forward it 14:11:26 your new hat looks so cute rottenwheel 🎅 14:13:41 Last time you spoke to me you called me "stupid motherfucker" in the kernal room. Change of mind? 😉 14:15:47 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/IxtniTieorREjBXGmTOEqmQX 14:15:51 what happened to kewbit 14:15:57 it seems like his appearance changed 14:16:02 evolved? 14:18:20 i always thought he was some kind of water pokemon. but now he looks more like a fire one. like charmander a bit but mixed with pikachu and some kind of dragon thing 14:20:21 anyway ... i was focused and away for a while and didnt really have time to read the chat every day 14:20:48 i hope i didnt miss anything important 14:20:48 Scamr 14:21:02 True colors 14:22:27 He used his marketing skills to get paid 75 xmr for code that didnt work, while squatting crates and domains, while pretending to "be" haveno 14:24:48 https://librejo.monerodevs.org/SyntheticBird/kewbit-drama 14:25:33 https://librejo.monerodevs.org/SyntheticBird/kewbit-drama#27-09-2024-haveno-com-domain-squatting 14:27:03 has someone tried the binaries? 14:29:46 Yes. He released some proprietary alpha binaries at some point with basic UI feature like making offer and shit 14:29:52 but it was proprietary 14:30:24 You will never see this level of completness ever again form him now that he is *comitting all his work to the repo* 14:32:21 comitting all his work to the repo? 14:37:01 image.png 14:37:53 kewbit .... isnt he the developer of qubesOS ? 😀 14:38:35 Wut lol 14:39:08 I think people thought that because he wrote an ai generated blog post about qubesos 14:39:54 tbh there are some people that just go by keywords that were mentioned somewhere and then do next token prediction 14:40:04 very associative thinkers so to speak 14:40:24 ever since i name dropped qubesOS months (years?) ago 14:42:13 https://github.com/MAGICGrants/Monero-Fund-Elections/issues/10 14:42:25 Check the reactions 14:44:01 maybe kewbit is the secret project of openai called Q* 14:44:11 think about it kew === Q 14:44:15 sounds almost the same 14:44:24 Free Kewbit 14:44:53 > I have a clear vision of how to appropriate funds efficiently so they are not wasted, I practice this every day, as a domain broker, I builder up value from firstly, recognizing the value, being example to bring out more value in people with key motivation tactics which I find to be specific to that individuals desires. 14:44:53 Frew Kewbit 14:44:53 his name was kewbit 14:45:30 IMHO, he took advantage of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect 14:45:31 maybe he is a shadow broker 14:45:38 > The halo effect (sometimes called the halo error) is the proclivity for positive impressions of a person, company, country, brand, or product in one area to positively influence one's opinion or feelings.[1][2] The halo effect is "the name given to the phenomenon whereby evaluators tend to be influenced by their previous judgments of performance or personality."[3] The halo effe 14:45:39 ct is a cognitive bias which can prevent someone from forming an image of a person, a product or a brand based on the sum of all objective circumstances at hand. 14:46:13 Creating the appearance of expertise. 14:46:52 to solve a very hard problem that might be unsolvable 14:46:53 With the blog, etc. And took advantage of the benefit of the doubt. 14:47:17 this so much true. I'm giving you the impression that I like you and all but I just want to backdoor Cuprate and monero for the CIA. 14:47:41 It's been a 3 year long social engineering operation 14:47:56 IIRC, he even convinced the monero twitter account to re-tweet his blog posts, but MRL spy node ban lists don't get tweeted. 14:47:58 the bird is the word 14:48:21 The amount of people believing birds are real is insane 14:53:29 Anyway, the dmvp2p CCS proposal is very similar to the Patronero CCS proposal that was closed a few years ago: https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/310 14:54:13 I don't like the proposal because it is very unlikely that it will generate more XMR donations than it consumes. 14:54:27 ^ 14:58:15 Also bought basicswap.net 14:58:52 And moneroecosystem.com. (its not just haveno) 15:00:43 who runs the twitter account btw? 15:01:39 https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20240706#c396932-c396939 15:01:47 There is only speculation 15:02:19 Seems to be someone easily excitable 15:03:20 so snowman in the monero twitter matrix channel is john snow? I asked him for his github / twitter handle a few times always dodged the question 15:04:45 response to critique is effectively: run your own monero twitter 15:05:02 tbh i dont really care 15:06:02 AFAIK John Snow was a joke reply. See geo nic's reply (I figured out how to highlight multiple lines on the log website, so pay attention to it lol) 15:06:29 there is potential for improvement, but its probably not easy to make changes ( probably for the best) 15:06:58 i just think its strange that we cant just have transparency about such a simple thing 15:08:02 Probably because the person(s) running it don't want to be bothered all the time about tweet this or that or don't tweet this or that 15:08:23 yeah its probably for the best 15:08:51 at the same time its a waste of potential 15:08:53 Thats why they tweet keystone twice in 1 day 15:09:13 Anyway, follow me on Bluesky because I'm banned on Twitter: https://bsky.app/profile/rucknium.me 15:09:14 you dont love your heckin keystone ofrnxmr ? 15:09:24 and ledga 15:09:46 I'm excited about keystone's weekly progress reports 15:10:28 How tf did you get banned on twitter, but not me? 15:10:31 Can't verify identity 15:10:58 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/IAjNGPLBYGEsmrwvkUvHsLqv 15:11:11 how do you even get banned of twt 15:12:11 I didnt verify mine 15:12:58 I made an account and got banned in a few hours IIRC. Too dangerous. 15:13:01 i have a blsky account but never use it 15:13:05 Ive been shadow / temp banned for DMing ppl, but that does away. Learned to never dm anyone that doesnt follow me 15:13:06 Goes* 15:13:30 lmfao. 15:13:40 i want to stop using twitter too havnt used it for almost a month 15:13:49 who made that graphic 15:13:58 what a beauty 😂 15:15:16 Since we are on the subject, how come the @monero account has never, not even once, reposted or given attention to RetoSwap? 15:15:16 say cisgender a bunch of time 15:15:23 Because @monero if smoking crack 15:15:23 bsky will start banning too. still amazed how they manged to copy twitter and make it worse 15:15:33 Is* 15:15:55 Bluesky is a literal battlefield 15:16:02 I know, I thought it would be a good time to bring it up... 15:16:04 Even transgenders are getting labelled transphobic 15:16:08 lmao 15:16:33 You're right. I saw a nerd fight about zero-inflated Poisson regression the other day. 15:16:54 Did I just hear a concept of statistics I do not know about ? 15:17:20 @monero tweets garbage 15:17:25 zero inflation yeah ik that 15:17:44 And sprikles in community stuff to try to shut us up 15:18:13 how to be populor on bluesky: wee all hat eleooonn musskk, riggght, riggght??? give me updoots 15:18:23 I'd be more fine with the current tweeting if "it" also tweeted relevant and important updates 15:18:40 Not me 15:18:45 Well 15:19:00 We had that convo, and @monero agreeded to that 15:19:18 let me be intern i will pump us to 30 bil 15:19:56 But then started doing shit like tweeting that they were excited about basicswap being excited, then immediately following with 2 keystone tweets 15:20:00 Ultimately, I liked how the account was handled when I got interested in Monero a few years back - when it focused solely on protocol updates and was purely about Monero, not making pre-announcements for-profit companies 15:20:24 Including Retoswap ^ 15:20:26 vosto gets hired to make 30 second sigma brain rot + monerochan 15:20:40 lfg bois 15:20:49 It used to be sgp posting cake every other tweet 15:21:02 Before that then 15:21:34 Ah, you said a "few" years, i read "couple" 15:21:36 i liked it when fluffy went in bitcoin uncensored to shill the alphabay pump 15:22:35 It's honeslty trash now 15:22:52 if we can get the spirit of that time back it will melt faces 15:23:38 Its like an rss feed of monero news, curated by keystone 15:24:11 its getting fugged by corpo rats 15:24:13 0 personality, 0 important tweets, 0 representation / 100% out of touch 15:24:19 sad to look at tbh 15:24:35 Like ruck said - still no tweet about linkinglion 15:24:46 wtf is dat 15:25:17 Spy nodes -> mrl recommends running a banlist 15:25:39 i dont think anybody cares 15:26:03 i would rather have stories about people buying things on the darknet 15:26:05 current offerings 15:26:07 The nodes spy on monero and bitcoin, possible other blockchains 15:26:09 just walk right up to the line 15:26:17 and ate 75% of our node network 15:26:40 but thats irrelevant information for the normie public 15:26:46 Rather nothing subjective at all 15:26:50 also the twitter account has the purpose to shill 15:26:51 It's important for "monero" to disclose this to the crypto community 15:27:11 that is corporate 15:27:14 keep it safe 15:27:33 it's not keeping it safe 15:27:40 it is fungible currency 15:27:48 why would you care what someone does on the darknet? Makes no sense 15:27:54 it's their business 15:28:07 the "cryto community" has an attention span of 10 seconds if you stretch it 15:28:16 it is looking for 100x gems 15:28:32 it is looking for degeneracy 15:28:33 I don't care about the crypto community 15:28:49 I'm talking about other projects 15:29:21 Not users, but devs / leaders in other projects 15:30:24 a while ago i saw a youtube video by a large channel not focused on crypto. the guy talked about his adhd and how he couldnt get meds... then he had a section were he clearly used monero to buy it 15:30:26 i'm talking specifically about the spy nodes here 15:30:45 it shows its much more grey and normalized than we think. human stories like that are good 15:31:00 They are, but they are not for the @monero account to tweet 15:31:23 Users / individuals can - just like that guy did 15:31:24 better than advertisments constantly 15:31:25 @monero shouldnt be an ad platform for whatever 15:31:27 tell a story 15:31:29 do something real 15:31:39 The guy already did - with great reach. That's perfect 15:32:10 i also don't think @monero shouldnl explicity encourage DNM usage. We have middlegrounds with stuff like xmrbazaar 15:32:35 i dont understand the objection. if there is a back end forth and a retweet by big account it incentivizes more of it and connects us to new people 15:32:42 You can sell anything on bazaar, even yourself, if its legal 15:33:31 Advertising where to buy 1kg of cocaine on an us based centralized platform isnt a great idea 15:34:08 This is much better than status quo - I just prefer to draw the line more clearly 15:34:09 yeah probably get it banned 15:34:37 Not such a bad idea! @monero deserves to be banned for its keystone / brave wallet shilling 15:34:41 getting it banned wouldnt be the worst btw 15:34:49 because it is news in itself 15:34:54 and can just be rebuilt 15:34:57 so the biggest risk 15:35:02 is something else 15:35:15 it is being corpo. not standing out. being used by companies 15:35:21 being used by interests 15:35:24 of grifters 15:35:31 to promote their little blog 15:35:33 or BS 15:41:38 agree with you there. but at the same time an rss feed would solve this problem better. twitter needs to be more risque to stand out 15:42:36 or maybe relevant is the better word. the content needs to be relevant to the debate of the day. it needs to connect to what news is or it needs to create news 15:43:37 I don't think Monero's success rides or dies on X, we're not a startup 15:45:01 yeah it doesnt matter in the end. but still good to brainstorm. i am just saying on twitter you communicate with a mass audience that might not care that spirobel wrote an update for his ccs proposal or is yapping about some code shit 15:45:07 the average person just does not care 15:46:08 We got a ton of very intellectual accounts that does this type of "marketing" you are referring to for free because of their belief in digital cash - I think the official account should stay out of all that, just my 2 cents obviously 15:48:44 the question is: if it is not dev updates and not ads for companies, what is it then? i am also not for intellectual accounts and yapping 15:49:12 Does it need to be anything else? 15:49:50 "officialness" in the corpo sense does not really apply. so we need to define clearly what we mean by that 15:50:40 Yeah I guess - If there is interest to define those guidelines it would be best to bring it up during a meeting 15:51:28 even then. not sure the twitter account listen to these meetings 15:51:30 bring it up during a meeting sounds good ---- but maybe this already makes it impossible because it is a very corpo thing to do 15:51:51 +1, that's why it's pointless to start drafting something right now, imho 15:52:20