08:56:48 <m-relay> <f​irst.yemi:matrix.org> If you’re all this payment method and you needs some cash 💵 just clink on my link and join my telegram group 
08:56:48 <m-relay> <f​irst.yemi:matrix.org> Cashapp? Chime Apple Pay? pal? Venmo? BOA? Wells Fargo? Join my channel now
08:56:50 <m-relay> <f​irst.yemi:matrix.org> Got any of these
08:56:52 <m-relay> <f​irst.yemi:matrix.org> Chase?
08:56:54 <m-relay> <f​irst.yemi:matrix.org> BOA?
08:56:56 <m-relay> <f​irst.yemi:matrix.org> Wells Fargo?
08:56:58 <m-relay> <f​irst.yemi:matrix.org> Navy federal?
08:57:00 <m-relay> <f​irst.yemi:matrix.org> Capital one?
08:57:02 <m-relay> <f​irst.yemi:matrix.org> Truist?
08:57:04 <m-relay> <f​irst.yemi:matrix.org> Att &t?
08:57:06 <m-relay> <f​irst.yemi:matrix.org> PNC?
10:51:49 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Is plowsorov around sers?
10:51:58 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> plowsof plowsoooof.
10:53:18 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> hello there
10:53:49 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Check /r/monero mod mail, thanks sir.
10:55:58 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> someone tipping you 200 pepe coins?
10:57:03 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> (you actually did get 200 pepes) but approved 😄 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1hof7sc/help_wanted_coming_up_with_a_new_name_for_mysu/
10:57:25 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Do you know what mod mail is, even?
10:57:48 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Thx bb. xx
11:02:04 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> [@plowsof:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@plowsof:matrix.org) send nudes. 😳
11:02:06 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Hardware⊙go
11:02:43 <plowsof> never heard of a mod mail, thanks monerobull!
11:27:08 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> monderbull*
11:48:19 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> What the fuck...
11:48:29 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/unredacted.org/QFxYWgaTPKueGZrnXaqTokzi
11:48:37 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> A Guide to Protecting the Monero Ecosystem from Corruption
11:48:38 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> https://kewbit.org/how-to-protect-the-monero-ecosystem/
11:49:16 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> LMFAO
11:49:21 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> cc monderbull2
11:49:31 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> *Ways to Donate*
11:49:32 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> *Monero Fund*: A new decentralized platform which is abuse-resistent is currently being worked on as Monero Fund.
11:49:55 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> https://donate.monero.fund/?ref=kewbit.org [@plowsof:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@plowsof:matrix.org)
11:50:19 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Fckn scammer
11:50:27 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> [@siren:kernal.eu](https://matrix.to/#/@siren:kernal.eu) lolol.
11:50:28 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> luigi1111w, Kewbit is trying to steal your piconeros
11:50:55 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> What's magics monero fund site ?
11:51:24 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> https://magicgrants.org/funds/monero/
11:51:59 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Also setup the site first before trying to scam
11:52:15 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Lol wordpress
11:57:45 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Blacklist this prick
11:59:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Bro said coffeezilla. What is this temu shit
12:02:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> sgp_ @sgp_:monero.social:
12:03:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/PdWSucJGJAPVVVkDsAyWlpCA
12:03:59 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Explose proposal sir
12:05:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> monerofund.org
12:05:43 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Like Jesus it's bad
12:05:59 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Worst scam site ever
12:06:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Luigi1111 look at new pic of us (use tor) https://kewbit.org/content/images/size/w1100/2024/12/image--7-.jpg
12:07:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> He created is using grok
12:09:16 <plowsof> Is the image permissively licensed at least?
12:09:40 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Copy left
12:10:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I'm not sure about grok terms
12:11:08 <plowsof> 50% partial payment or he wont release the prompt
12:11:48 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Evil Luigi with evil plans grinning
12:11:52 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Lol
12:12:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> "Evil luigi" "with a bunch of ofrnxmr alts" "Evil alts"
12:13:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> The candles are a nice touch. Romantic
12:23:21 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> Well well well
12:24:39 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Made by Grok!
13:41:20 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> so he made an ai generated article about how tu use monero, titled it guide against corruption
13:41:22 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> and all of that to shill their new scam? damn
13:43:04 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> He surely likes to live in his own parallel realities! Already built a fully-fledged haveno network of his own with haveno.com and supposedly new flashy mobile client, now he's going for his own CCS!
13:44:59 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> lmao I didnt see the fuckg tags
13:46:02 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> #luigi11111 *dont mention luigi at all*
13:46:23 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xavi.lu/zmAoDixNaLZYfpKGleTYQkDt
13:46:42 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> luigi rottenwheel and ofrnxmr
13:47:07 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> ik that they hated ofr for.some reason
13:47:08 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> what did you do tho rotten? xD
13:47:10 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> exept being an ass as alwaS
13:47:12 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> ik that they hated ofr for.some reason
13:47:14 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> what did you do tho rotten? xD
13:47:16 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> exept being an ass as always
13:57:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Rotten and qtip should be besties - they both love ofrn
14:55:43 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Lol wat. [@malori:xavi.lu](https://matrix.to/#/@malori:xavi.lu) [@syntheticbird:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/@syntheticbird:monero.social) [@plowsof:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@plowsof:matrix.org) [@siren:kernal.eu](https://matrix.to/#/@siren:kernal.eu) [@321bob321:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/@321bob321:monero.social)  https://x.com/kewbit/status/1873292441903575<clipped messag
14:55:44 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> 200 // nitter: https://xcancel.com/kewbit/status/1873292441903575200
14:57:12 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lol kewbit blocked me
14:57:15 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i can't respond
14:57:19 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> X is shit
14:57:21 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> fuck elon
14:59:31 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> lmao
14:59:35 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> real
15:00:42 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> https://xcancel.com/kewbit/status/1873346439637598372
15:00:47 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> he is still on about that
15:01:01 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> also twitter is so perfect the only comment he havc is a scam
15:01:27 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xavi.lu/yTtYAIGRpOftzehSvkkNFgWH
15:01:35 <m-relay> <m​alori:xavi.lu> ye plz send all ur money to onchainexpert kewbit
15:05:37 <m-relay> <s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> With a handle like that who wouldn't trust him. He is an on chain expert after all.
15:07:04 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> Clearly that's not the site of the MAGIC Monero Fund
15:08:14 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> Definitely an impersonation attempt though. And they certainly knew about the MAGIC Monero Fund since they applied for the committee...
15:09:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yeah just pinging you about the obv impersonation
15:10:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm assuming that you've seen haveno.com?
15:10:46 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> By "seen", i mean, read the homepage
15:12:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > sensor my website
15:12:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He tags me buy has me blocked.. and still cant spell sensor
15:15:48 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> Just block and ignore them at this point. I appreciate the heads up on monero.fund but they're not going to win in seo for that when they compete with the back links (?) from privacy guides as well
15:18:29 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> Actually what I meant to say is that for us to not get buried, you'll need to donate all your money to MAGIC :p #resistance
15:21:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> How about we send more $ to kewbit? Will that work?
15:27:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://github.com/MAGICGrants/Monero-Fund-Elections/issues/10
15:28:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/DqNjeoJfwukYaqUaFZUftFxj
15:30:20 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> Take this as a friendly reminder to register to vote for the election
15:31:26 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no ofrnxmr we thought about the same
15:31:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Is there a quorum
15:31:49 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> inb4 are you lettin in
15:32:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Quorum for votes or candidates
15:32:24 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> It's a ranked choice election
15:32:50 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> can a rank be a C++ monostate so that one is not elected. asking for a friend...
15:33:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I mean, id there are 4 seats and only 4 ppl apply, does that mean all 4 ppl get in?
15:33:29 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i second this question
15:34:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Or if every candidate only receives 1 vote (themselves), can they also get in?
15:35:29 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> to be clear on the clause of MAGIC rules for applying to committee membership precise that one can be disqualified by the MAGIC foundation higher committee under specific circumstances
15:35:33 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> If no one else wants to run, then there might be a situation that looks somewhat close to that. We can disqualify candidates though, as we probably should do in this case
15:35:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ideally there should be a minimum # of votes to qualify, a min # of voters voting, and a min # of candidates per seat
15:37:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> by ranked voting, do you mean like.. 4 candidates = i'd have to assign them votes of 1-2-3-4?
15:37:58 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes
15:38:24 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> https://civs1.civs.us/faq.html
15:38:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Should probably allow 0 votes, cuz qtip might have some socks in there
15:38:41 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i think ranking vote is fine
15:38:48 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> qbit is an exception and should just be disqualified
15:39:14 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> also in theory there should be more committee member applying
15:39:19 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> Which is why there's a voter application process
15:39:22 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> for it to work well
15:39:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> So no-opinion = 0 vote?
15:40:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nvm > For example, if you give one choice the rank 1, and give all other choices the rank “no opinion”, your ballot becomes useless because it doesn't express any preferences.
15:41:10 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> A voter can vote everyone no opinion and then the vote would not do anything. But they don't need to vote that way obviously
15:43:09 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> The hope is that community members register to vote so that their voice is heard (more than just comments on the side) and for a competitive committee landscape to exist
15:44:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Mebbe get plowsof to add to community meeting agenda
16:45:24 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> binomic is a fed guy i swear
16:52:26 <m-relay> <b​inomic:matrix.org> you got me
18:02:57 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> Waiting for GitHub staff to come back from holidays
18:05:14 <m-relay> <m​idipoet:matrix.org> @monderbull, @plowsof or @deBRUYNE can you please check Reddit mod mail, when you get a chance. Please and thank you.
18:11:14 <plowsof> midipoet yep it was auto removed by reddit for reasons unknown https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1hp1auc/micar_and_the_monero_ecosystem/ 
18:11:27 <plowsof> thanks mdll
18:16:11 <midipoet> thanks
18:22:46 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So monero is exempt
18:27:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "have an inbuilt anonymisation function" i might argue that monero doesnt have an inbuild anonymization function, it has confidential transactions. The monero protocol doesnt protect users anonymity 
18:27:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > In the eyes of MiCAR, however, some (if not all) of these cryptographic components have been interpreted as “inbuilt anonymisation functions”
18:27:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> they nees their eyes checked
18:29:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats like saying ssl is an inbuilt anonymization feature
18:35:00 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> I don't like how vague that article is. Companies will ban anyway since they don't want to FAFO.
19:01:41 <midipoet> As i understand it (but don't have all the details) Kraken and Binance delisted as they had to demonstrate their compliance actions during their licence application with their European regulator, which was/is the Central Bank of Ireland. 
19:02:12 <midipoet> In reality, they couldn't risk not getting their licence. 
20:36:12 <m-relay> <p​rivacyx:monero.social> Qbit on a ofrnxmr: twat🐦 rampage posting stupid shite. He getting little visibilty or replies except when he replies to himself using his other pseudonym
20:37:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 😆😆. I love my kids equally.
21:23:22 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> https://kuno.anne.media/fundraiser/2zbh-increase-the-membership-of-monero/
21:23:24 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> each to there own i guess
21:25:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Simping
22:03:19 <midipoet> That's a funny kuno
22:13:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its funny because its a campaign to try to bribe a couple egirls with 1.5xmr total
22:14:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Need to go bigger
22:22:50 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> There's no real limit on what an "anonymisation function" is. The ability to create a fresh, anonymous Bitcoin address arguably qualifies as one. But that's not practical to enforce in practice, so Monero is the foil. You're welcome Bitcoin
22:25:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> theyre using obscure definitions on anonymity
22:25:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Again, ssl would be "anonymity" by this definition
22:25:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> has nothing to do with the identity of a person, but only applying to the data in transit
22:26:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> which is essentially just a war on encryption and has nothing 2 do with identities
22:28:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> whats the difference between sgp sending me a pgp encrypted email vs sending me some monero?
22:29:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Maybe not the best example, since the email addresses are known. Signal with usernames is a better example, or simplex
22:32:55 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes yes blah blah definition. tl;dr: The polititards behind this document are either completely uneducated, manipulated by lobby, or completely evil. The most important is if a judge would read this shit in courts and say "Yes, seems to me like monero is perfectly falling into this" ? The answer is Yes. You're going to jail. You're welcome.
22:34:18 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I don't expect the average judge to make the difference between security, privacy and anonymity.
22:35:50 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> "Is it hidden to police and used by criminals"?, No => Perfectly fine, Yes => It's been designed for that, it's le bad
22:37:08 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> We're really into this shitty part of our era where people don't realize they are again reproducing the: "Knife has been used to kill someone, then the knife is a criminal tool and should be ban" stupidity argument
22:38:20 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I don't blame them, (not corrupted) judges have other relatively more important things to do/learn. Some people don't realize that Monero's concepts are completely out of touch for the average individual.
22:45:21 <m-relay> <m​x_mandelbrot42:matrix.org> The person who created this kuno (mr58799) should tell them about XMRChat 🙃