00:20:35 <n1oc> [CCS Proposals] plowsoff opened merge request #548: acceptxmr: add funding note / adjust amount https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/548
00:30:05 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] plowsofff opened pull request #548: acceptxmr: add funding note / adjust amount
00:30:05 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/548
00:52:10 <n1oc> [CCS Proposals] plowsoff opened merge request #549: monero signer res: funding note https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/549
00:53:22 <n1oc> [CCS Proposals] plowsoff opened merge request #550: core animated videos: add funding note / adjust amount https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/550
00:54:51 <plowsof> sorry for the spam (and the upcoming echo from xmr-pr that IRC only see)
01:00:05 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] plowsofff opened pull request #550: core animated videos: add funding note / adjust amount
01:00:05 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/550
01:00:05 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] plowsofff opened pull request #549: monero signer res: funding note
01:00:05 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/549
05:24:04 <m-relay> <b​lessed_mind:matrix.org> Hello everyone
05:24:04 <m-relay> <b​lessed_mind:matrix.org> Is this the official monero community group?
06:40:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea
10:35:08 <plowsof> meeting today in 5hrd26mins https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1156 escapethe3ra Lovera 
10:45:05 -xmr-pr- [meta] plowsof opened issue #1156: Monero Community Workgroup Meeting: February 15th 16:00 UTC
10:45:05 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1156
11:16:34 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Excited for it ?
14:00:52 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERA<clipped messag
14:00:54 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> BILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO <clipped messag
14:00:56 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHOR<clipped messag
14:00:58 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> T INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SE<clipped messag
14:01:00 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> LL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED<clipped messag
14:01:02 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org>  :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VUL<clipped messag
14:01:04 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> NERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MON<clipped messag
14:01:06 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> ERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: <clipped messag
14:01:08 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :<clipped messag
14:01:10 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERA<clipped messag
14:01:12 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERA<clipped messag
14:01:14 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> BILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO <clipped messag
14:01:16 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHOR<clipped messag
14:01:20 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERA<clipped messag
14:01:22 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERA<clipped messag
14:01:24 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> BILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO <clipped messag
14:01:26 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHOR<clipped messag
14:01:28 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> T INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SE<clipped messag
14:01:30 <m-relay> <s​hortmonero:unredacted.org> BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERABILITY DISCOVERED :: BUY BITCOIN :: SELL ALL MONERO :: SHORT INCOMING :: MONERO = $0 :: CVE 8 VULNERA<clipped messag
14:01:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Diego Salazar  plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org xmrscott @xmrscott:monero.social
14:47:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/IkEHEquZGLeLAkhflzYQXKOY
14:47:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://xcancel.com/unstoppablebyhs/status/1890717440692162752
14:49:31 <m-relay> <m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> if it wasn't for ofr I'd never know what happens on twitter thx bud
15:07:03 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> Engagement bait
15:09:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> All if their recent monero post are
15:25:52 <m-relay> <b​lessed_mind:matrix.org> I thought they were going to add monero support to their wallet?
15:26:46 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> as sgp said, theyre engagement farming
15:49:04 <plowsof> 👍
15:50:39 <plowsof> meeting in 10 mins woohoo
15:56:57 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> Definitely not excited about this tweet (let me confirm @monero didnt retweet)
15:57:30 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> ok, nope, we're good
15:57:55 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> So he instructed @monero to not tweet it 😅
15:58:03 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> So he instructed @monero to not retweet it 😅
15:59:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> sgp doesnt control @monero
15:59:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Annnnd cut
16:00:24 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> He used to at some point , who controls it now ? Same guy with @cake control ?
16:00:50 <ofrnxmr> Meeting time, shh
16:01:49 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> Oops didn’t see 🙏🏻
16:02:04 <ofrnxmr> Scared plowsof away
16:02:20 <plowsof> oh sorry yes 
16:02:37 <plowsof> thought i was in it lol
16:02:41 <plowsof> Meeting time https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1156
16:02:44 <plowsof> greetings , hello
16:02:59 <ofrnxmr> Hi
16:03:19 <plowsof> i heard monero was under attack and all nods are offline
16:03:58 <ofrnxmr> Yup. I shut my nodes off to make sure they didnt get infected /s
16:04:30 <plowsof> cuprate / boog900 has suggested the possibility of a 'for purpose' seed node that can run on cheap hardware 
16:04:49 <plowsof> Public RPC Node operators are highly recommended to build latest release branch [release-v0.18](https://github.com/monero-project/monero/tree/release-v0.18)
16:05:25 <ofrnxmr> on that ^, tag is coming soon. No real rush for anyone who isnt running a high volume rpc node
16:05:32 <plowsof> monero could use another ipv4 seed node and 2~ tor ones i think if anyone is interested 
16:06:18 <ofrnxmr> Mining pools should close rpc ports if open, and wallet default nodes should update to avoid downtime. Seed nodes as well
16:06:34 <m-relay> <b​tclovera:matrix.org> Hi everyone
16:06:47 <ofrnxmr> really only need some seed nodes to update right away, and some are, so no rush
16:06:53 <m-relay> <b​oog900:monero.social> Also would reduce the attack surface of the seed node not having any protocol logic
16:06:54 <plowsof> hola Lovera
16:07:23 <plowsof> ofrnxmr: monero dot fail is pretty un - recommendable for finding a tor node lol https://monero.fail/?chain=monero&network=mainnet&onion=on 
16:07:24 <ofrnxmr> Boog, the idea is for the seed node to ONLY do peerlists? 
16:07:52 <m-relay> <b​oog900:monero.social> Pretty much
16:08:54 <ofrnxmr> Yeah, i have tor/i2p nodes, but my service provider just chanced my ip so idk if i'd provide an ipv4 seed 
16:09:19 <m-relay> <b​usyboredom:tchncs.de> Joining late, but I'm here.
16:09:52 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> was contemplating moving meetings 2 hour later to 18:00 in the future
16:11:17 <m-relay> <b​tclovera:matrix.org> No problem.  It is a good time
16:11:24 <ofrnxmr> Loverraaa 
16:11:33 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> shou-out to datahoarder the `m-relay` maintainer. he's launched an app service bridge that is feature packed and is in active testing in all p2pool rooms
16:12:02 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> News: [Monero Observer](https://www.monero.observer/) - [Revuo Monero](https://revuo-xmr.com/) - [Monero Moon](https://www.themoneromoon.com/)
16:12:26 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> #p2pool-bridge-test:bridge.p2pool.observer
16:13:41 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we  can move on to ccs updates if nothing else to bring up
16:14:17 <ofrnxmr> We found 0.1xmr or so
16:14:26 <ofrnxmr> No, we found 1xmr
16:14:46 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> and lost 0.01 xmr which i owe to geonic
16:15:10 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> would you like to share an update on your proposalLovera ?
16:16:25 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> forgot to make a payout request i hear. and BusyBoredom is here 💪
16:17:35 <m-relay> <b​usyboredom:tchncs.de> If lovera is afk for a few, I can give my brief update
16:17:45 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> please do, thank you
16:17:51 <m-relay> <b​usyboredom:tchncs.de> AcceptXMR update: working on the WordPress plugin, it's functional but ugly and the currency conversion is unreliable. I'm in the process of prettying it up and caching conversion rates to smooth out the rough edges.
16:18:22 <m-relay> <b​usyboredom:tchncs.de> Taking inspiration on currency conversion handling from monero integrations, they have a great solution.
16:19:08 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> recanmann should hopefully have an monero integrations update for us
16:19:40 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> thanks for pushing this along BusyBoredom, how are they handling conversions? multiple sources?
16:19:59 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> hi
16:21:27 <m-relay> <b​usyboredom:tchncs.de> They've got a job spinning every X seconds to fetch conversion rates from coingecko and stuff them in the DB, then the gateway gets rates from the DB with no direct dependency on coingecko.
16:22:26 <m-relay> <b​usyboredom:tchncs.de> Doesn't look like that have multiple sources, but the solution would scale well for that and its something I'm considering.
16:23:05 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> indeed, sounds great 👍️ (Rucknium has a nice price fetcher idea in use on monerofund iirc) Lovera claim your funds thanks
16:23:21 <m-relay> <b​tclovera:matrix.org> Ok in here again. Sorry guys, was afk. 
16:23:22 <m-relay> <b​tclovera:matrix.org> Yes, sorry but I forget to write my last update for the last milestone. 
16:23:24 <m-relay> <b​tclovera:matrix.org> I will update it today as Since I wanted to mention it at the meeting first
16:23:55 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> yes i checked your socials and noticed you where still active doing monero things
16:25:08 <plowsof> thanks for joining, will look out for your update comment 👍
16:25:28 <plowsof> i think we can move on to merges.. not much changes to discuss on the first 2
16:25:45 <ofrnxmr> Just that noshore posted a comment
16:25:48 <plowsof>   a. [NoShore: Groundwork for on-the-go offline payments](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/525)    
16:26:36 <plowsof> yes, they want to complete the work and seek retroactive funding , at the latest in april. regardless, i wont be bringing it up in meetings until then, or, close and re-open with a retro funding request.
16:27:01 <plowsof> thoughts?
16:27:14 <ofrnxmr> In the meantime, they should prob not wait for us and try to raise the funds 
16:27:52 <ofrnxmr> Close n reopen ack
16:28:07 <m-relay> <a​ntilt:we2.ee> ask him kindly to detail his knowlegde about the role of key images in the protocol -- this will save on precious core dev time.
16:29:51 <plowsof> vthor is busy with the MoneroSigner , which involves just that  
16:30:05 <plowsof> the proposer has not attended any meetings are joined this room afaict 
16:30:17 <plowsof> s/are/or
16:30:23 <plowsof> lets move on 
16:30:47 <vthor> here, will read
16:31:20 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> oh sorry for the direct ping , hello
16:32:18 <plowsof>   b. [dmvp2p: Donate Monero Via P2Pool](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/531)    
16:32:36 <plowsof> no changes with this one
16:32:52 <vthor> hi plowsof, no issue. So I show at least up to a/the meeting :)
16:33:23 <plowsof> somewhat related: the GUPAXX dev has started a kuno for further work https://kuno.anne.media/fundraiser/dsrr/
16:34:34 <plowsof> "- Easy UI (for beginners, automate as much as possible)" - which was one negative point raised by 4rkal about GUPAXX (it has many tabs where as dmvp2p is more streamlined for mining to a donation address)
16:34:49 <m-relay> <b​tclovera:matrix.org> I like this project, but to be honest, I don't see any differents between mining for yourself and then just send some picometos to your favorite creator or person 😅
16:35:14 <plowsof> i feel the same 
16:35:31 <plowsof> and i like picometos 
16:36:51 <plowsof> i think we can move on 
16:37:40 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> It's an interesting idea but I don't expect it to lead to meaningful donations. More of a PR opportunity than something significant unfortunately
16:37:55 <plowsof> 👍
16:38:16 <plowsof> thanks for the feedback 
16:38:25 <plowsof>   c. [Funding Proposal for Unstoppable Wallet: Enabling Native Monero Integration on iOS & Android](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/532)    
16:38:33 <ofrnxmr> Close pending feedback
16:38:59 <plowsof> iirc that was the status from the prev meeting , they've not ack'd it as being real neither lol
16:39:18 <plowsof> tweeting alot about monero though 
16:39:31 <ofrnxmr> They havent acknowledged that its their proposal, and are on a pr campaign right now. Can come back to meeting table if they ack the proposal
16:40:44 <plowsof> most likely the feedback will be that the fdroid version has all features, but the stores have the pay to play stuff? (privacy related)
16:41:37 <ofrnxmr> Theyve also pivoted slightly on the removal/paywall of privacy and security. Fdroid builds will be completely free, and existing gplay users will retain the ability to opt out of analytics and to use duress password. new users may have to pay for duress and ability to opt-out of analytics. So.. better, but still not there. Also dont know of theyre
16:41:37 <ofrnxmr> talking about lws or a full node wallet
16:42:50 <ofrnxmr> Either way, if the proposal is fake, then theyre doing it on their own so no need to discuss here. If proposal is real, they need to respond to feedback 
16:43:22 <ofrnxmr> Close for lack of feedback (or even acknowledgement), come back to it if they speak up
16:43:48 <plowsof> leaning on not bringing it up in meetings then unless its changed 
16:44:15 <ofrnxmr> I'd close so they get the notification and speak up. Lol. 
16:44:33 <plowsof> that would be an easy way to get an alert yes
16:44:54 <m-relay> <a​ntilt:we2.ee> +1
16:45:12 <plowsof> lets move on to the most popular proposal upvoted 
16:45:16 <plowsof>   d. [Btcpayserver plugin](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/538)    
16:45:41 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> You don’t know when some influencer can get a few thousand ppl to mine for them
16:45:47 <ofrnxmr> still needs proposers to finger the pulse and realize that the plugin exists 
16:46:08 <plowsof> no changes so far, although someone contacted me to begin work on the open btcpayserver bounties (working on the new official btcpayserver plugin)
16:46:14 <ofrnxmr> "a few throusand ppl" lol, the entire p2pool list
16:47:18 <m-relay> <s​gp_:monero.social> This should be closed and resubmitted with the acknowledgement that the full plugin exists imo. Maybe Nicolas is done and is waiting on the Monero community to choose a maintainer? But it's currently unclear. That code hasn't been touched in 2 weeks
16:47:42 <ofrnxmr> +1 sgp
16:48:38 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> Right now yes, as there is nobody asking for such donations via mining
16:48:39 <plowsof> +1
16:49:23 <ofrnxmr> Nobody wants their wallet being dusted with transparent outputs 
16:49:40 <ofrnxmr> And by dust, i mean dust
16:50:12 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> moving on while we have time , thanks for the feedback so far
16:50:17 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> e. [hinto-janai full time work (3 months)](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/543)
16:51:11 <ofrnxmr> cuprate bros ack'd
16:52:01 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> boog900 also has a proposal
16:52:02 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> f. [Boog900 full time work on Cuprate (3 months) + January](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/544)
16:52:45 <ofrnxmr> +1
16:53:04 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> 4 months, january back pay + 3 👍️
16:53:44 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> merge x1000
16:53:50 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> both
16:53:50 <ofrnxmr> Also using a flat rate. I personally dont like the "N$ + Nxmr"
16:56:49 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> it makes one number lower and when monero is 100k devs get more moneys, do you want them to starve?
16:57:12 <ofrnxmr> I dont see any reason for it. Pick a side
16:57:54 <ofrnxmr> I dont even like pricing in $ to begin with. Its not like we reimburse volatility 
16:58:35 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> semi related : the 2024 estimated xmr ~ $ ccs earnings https://gist.github.com/plowsof/0401c4823b842580cd0cb1d27b380150
16:58:46 <ofrnxmr> jeffro's latest ccs was priced in xmr, cuz hes based
16:59:18 <ofrnxmr> He used to write a paragraph about how to calculate the amount
17:00:48 <ofrnxmr> 2 proposals remain in funding required: https://ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required/ xmrchat and v1docq47(xmr.ru)
17:01:36 <ofrnxmr> Jeffro and sneedlwoods dev ccs' were merged after the last meeting. Both reached their funding goals
17:02:17 <plowsof> ccs payout waiting list: ofrnxmr, tobtot, selsta, rottenwheel
17:02:22 <plowsof> tobtoht*
17:03:00 <plowsof> the general fund contributed to jeffro and sneedlewoods proposals 
17:04:21 <plowsof> thanks all for attending, any other business?
17:04:47 <ofrnxmr> Need to deduct the 0.01xmr from your next pay
17:04:50 <m-relay> <b​tclovera:matrix.org> Is there any set time that the proposal should be funded?
17:05:02 <ofrnxmr> Nope
17:05:23 <m-relay> <b​tclovera:matrix.org> I mean, is there a time limit in which a proposal must be funded? I don't remember
17:05:29 <plowsof> the community has sent 15 xmr  from netrik ccs  coordinator to v1dos proposal to help 
17:05:41 <ofrnxmr> Yeah, nope (lovera)
17:05:53 <m-relay> <b​tclovera:matrix.org> 👍🏻👍🏻
17:06:19 <ofrnxmr> Plowsof, soon we'll actually send THE funds 😅 
17:06:38 <plowsof> v1do is working on the proposal. his first update 3 days ago https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/517#note_28675
17:07:14 <plowsof> also the monerokon meeting started 7 mins ago
17:07:29 <ofrnxmr> rip. Thanks everyone 
17:07:45 <plowsof> for those interested. an end to the meeting, thanks for joining all 
17:08:46 <m-relay> <b​tclovera:matrix.org> Thanks 🙏🏻
17:09:12 <plowsof> ofrnxmr pls remember via outreach i helped raise a staggering 0.07 monero via https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/ccs_test_update.html 
17:09:22 <plowsof> i hope this is taken into consideration for the 0.01 i owe 
17:09:47 <plowsof> the proposal was also overfunded by more than 100%
17:10:09 <m-relay> <s​pirobel:kernal.eu> I want to mention I am also done with my ccs. I managed to make the checkout dynamic and keep it javascript free at the same time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldyXZB9v31k
17:10:20 <m-relay> <s​pirobel:kernal.eu> writing writeup now
17:10:43 <plowsof> thanks for the update spirobel 
17:11:36 <plowsof> spirobel you need that 1 click highlight html hack on the address 
17:11:45 <plowsof> ux score -1 
17:12:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org  i also donated 0.069xmr
17:13:07 <plowsof> thank you
17:13:50 <plowsof> wait, it was not over 100% funded, it was 0.069 overfunded lol
17:58:17 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> So donation via pool mining would be better ?
18:27:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No, donatipn via sending a transaction
18:30:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> oh, you mean if you mined to _my_ pool address? in theory yes, but not really
18:46:06 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> Why not ? Botnets already do that; make legit donating bots
18:49:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "not really" because its centralized
18:49:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not a good tradeoff. So yes it works, but people will use centralized pools and that doesnt make anything better
18:52:53 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> POV: me when i create a pool that mine inside p2pool so that I can claim to be decentralized despite being centralized until later on i create p2pool pool inside p2pool...
19:01:21 <plowsof> There was a pool claiming to be p2pool but it wasn't. Forgot the name.. he'd advertise on reddit 
19:09:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> minexmr2?
19:09:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Aterx, minexmr2, theres a few of em
19:09:54 <plowsof> Yep
19:10:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They use identifiers as well, so its easy to see their hash on p2pool
19:10:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Also, theres like 50% of p2poolbhash coming from 1 miner. Obv thats pooled hashates, even if not s pool
19:11:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://p2pool.observer/miner/47Eqp7fsvVnPPSU4rsXrKJhyAme6LhDRZDzFky9xWsWUS9pd6FPjJCMDCNX1NnNiDzTwfbAgGMk2N6A1aucNcrkhLffta1p heres minexmr2
19:12:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://mini.p2pool.observer/miner/41jyth3Xv8vJPTRBPNXfLJ29jo2do8aC2CPXXeCNHCFRjjNhZ1GB2HETntXWAJqgr2Y9my5XTanKKWFzRZG8scX13AUNYWq aterx
19:14:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://p2pool.observer/miners half of pool hr is the top miner
19:15:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Aterx is #2 on mini https://mini.p2pool.observer/miners
19:35:01 <n1oc> XMRChat - a service for content creators to receive messages and tips in Monero. is now fully funded! https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/xmrchat.html @luigi1111
19:47:11 <plowsof> FiatDemise
19:54:16 <m-relay> <f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Oh wow!!
19:57:42 <m-relay> <f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Excellent! Great stuff is coming! I need to add comments on more progress made so far too, Content Links feature is done now for instance.
20:12:54 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Cause it will pump when fcmp come !
20:24:02 <NorrinRadd> plowsof: "was contemplating moving meetings 2 hour later to 18:00 in the future" -- sounds good to me. euros might disagree though. any APAC folks? 
20:24:37 <NorrinRadd> Re: "https://www.monero.observer" -- ughhh they posted openmonero 
20:28:25 <plowsof> apparently it's open source now (reason for posting i guess)
21:47:43 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Evolving scam
21:49:59 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> I have yet to see someone here known say it legit
21:50:59 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> In monerotopia there has been a million alts of open monero saying it works
21:51:14 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> And I suspect its qtip
21:52:46 <NorrinRadd> types like qtip 
21:52:52 <NorrinRadd> same dumb ish 
21:56:04 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Also owns localmonero.me
22:00:00 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> zero excitement around it
22:01:29 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> https://monero.town/post/5538748
22:02:16 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Monfluo first release
22:02:43 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> https://codeberg.org/acx/monfluo