00:32:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Somehow were in rottens dms again
00:33:48 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Peoples person data gets exposed every week by databreaches. Why would you rely on a third party vendor, to keep your moneros.
00:34:59 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Thats why we have e2ee
00:35:06 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Unless your in uk
00:43:08 <dukenukem> I am in Leeds, England.
00:43:17 <dukenukem> plow lives couple blocks south.
01:14:57 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Throw a rock at them
12:14:48 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/MVGxpZLpWHzBVeoQOxdZrCbk
12:15:08 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> 😆
12:33:49 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/unredacted.org/TDYCNKhwRzMaCAScolFLZZRq
12:34:02 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/unredacted.org/AvJKdzQbWUloQhnJYUoWPYYF
12:34:49 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> https://xcancel.com/schmidt1024/status/1894664680502710602
12:46:50 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> This project (draw.io diagram / image / interactive html page with links) will be open sourced soon.
12:46:50 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> The Monero Ecosystem Map is mainly for easy navigation around most useful Projects.
12:46:52 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Suggestions are welcome.
12:58:39 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> How about adding colored indicator dots on each logo to mark whether a project is open source or not and if it is decentralized or not?
12:58:40 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> This might be needed for adding useful centralized projects like Trocador and others.
13:00:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Payment part us mixed up
13:00:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Nodo, metronero, pos, -> moneropay -> payment
13:09:11 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> I would consider it rather connected or depentant that mixed up.
13:09:12 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> It also shows the modularity of some open source projects.
13:12:42 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Should I add Anonero, Cupcake to wallets and Hardware wallets like Ledger, Trezor and then Keystone(when relesed) ?
13:13:51 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Should I add Wallets - Anonero, Cupcake to wallets and Hardware wallets - Ledger, Trezor and then Keystone(when relesed) ?
13:17:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> id add monfluo to wallets
13:18:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> service -> powered by -> type of service
13:18:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Reto -> haveno -> dex
13:18:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> metronero -> moneropay -> payments
13:18:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> nodo -> moneropay -> payments
13:19:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'd put cake & monerocom as 1 listing
13:23:27 <n1oc> [CCS Proposals] spirobel opened merge request #555: Monero Browser Wallet https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/555
13:30:05 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] spirobel opened pull request #555: Monero Browser Wallet
13:30:05 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/555
14:04:25 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Yes this makes sense to separate DEXes and CESes
14:04:26 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Reto - Haveno - Decentralized / DEX - Exchange
14:04:28 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> (example) OpenMonero, XMRGlobal - Centralized / P2P CEX - Exchange
14:04:30 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Trocador - Agregators
14:04:32 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> exch.cx, ... - Instat CEX - Exchange
14:04:34 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Regarding
14:04:36 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> metronero -> moneropay -> payments
14:04:38 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> The problem with this is the following:
14:04:40 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> For example some users will be using moneropay as an integrated payment system with or without the Metronero UI. Other users will only face/use Metronero.
14:05:25 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Yes this makes sense to separate DEXes and CESes
14:05:26 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Reto - Haveno - Decentralized / DEX - Exchange
14:05:28 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> (example) OpenMonero, XMRGlobal - Centralized / P2P CEX - Exchange
14:05:30 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Trocador - Agregators
14:05:32 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> exch.cx, ... - Instant/Automated CEX - Exchange
14:05:34 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Regarding
14:05:36 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> metronero -> moneropay -> payments
14:05:38 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> The problem with this is the following:
14:05:40 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> For example some users will be using moneropay as an integrated payment system with or without the Metronero UI. Other users will only face/use Metronero.
14:06:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> other users will only use Metronero/nodo/pos/atm*
14:06:24 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> sure
14:07:44 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> btw ATM is atm.monero.is (in development)
14:08:00 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> btw ATM is atm.monero.is (still in development)
14:08:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I know
14:08:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Metronero is as well
14:09:37 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> My point is that all prohects that depend on moneropay should be fed into moneropay, or vice versa (current). But if vice versa, then isnt reto -> haveno backwards>
14:13:12 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Reto is forked from Haveno. And it is one of the possible Haveno networks.
14:23:34 <m-relay> <u​ser2570:unredacted.org> Please keep in mind that graphs like this include different catigories / contexts + interpretations. Meaning the structure of such general graph will not be fully correct for everybody.
15:01:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm not saying your chart is wrong. Probably ok as is
15:02:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (the payments flow)
15:03:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> looked mixed up to me, but its not wrong
15:58:40 <n1oc> [CCS Proposals] luigi1111 closed merge request #525: NoShore: Groundwork for on-the-go offline payments https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/525
15:59:19 <n1oc> [CCS Proposals] luigi1111 closed merge request #531: dmvp2p: Donate Monero Via P2Pool https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/531
16:15:03 <n1oc> vtnerd full-time 2025 q1/q2 has moved to funding! https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/vtnerd-2025-q1.html
16:15:04 <n1oc> Boog900 full time work on Cuprate (3 months) + January has moved to funding! https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/boog_3_months_cuprate_3.html
16:25:03 <n1oc> hinto-janai full-time work (3 months) has moved to funding! https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/hinto-4.html
23:22:48 <m-relay> <j​0j0xmr:monero.social> Oh no. Left a comment voting against.
23:24:53 <m-relay> <j​0j0xmr:monero.social> Didn't even look at the amount asked. 335 XMR when we have at least 2 full fledged mobile wallets being developed, not to mention an entire SDK, for much less?