00:10:46 <321bob321:monero.social> Secret 00:24:48 monerobull hijacked how? 00:30:50 Is it really? Shouldn't that be public info? 00:35:38 Shoulda woulda coulda 00:36:14 There was a time when seth and sgp knew who ran it 00:53:43 Let's mass report it. 01:18:00 Cake? 01:24:56 Seth and tux say no 01:25:20 So just someone who loves cake, keys, stones, and being excited 01:37:37 if only they had their finger on the pulse 01:56:34 <321bob321:monero.social> Nioc need to be excited 01:58:02 And they gave it to someone else? 01:58:20 Yes 01:58:31 <321bob321:monero.social> Hot potato 01:58:48 OR there was always someone else_ and they dont know who 01:59:53 Once upon a time, @monero got into a drunk argument with $ada founder, chris hopforeskin or whatever his name is 02:02:44 <321bob321:monero.social> Those were the days 07:40:08 erc is crawling back 😂😂😂 07:40:47 looks like his shitcoin cant pay him enough anymore XD 07:48:00 & wants to bring its centalized nature to xmr 10:16:53 hey monerobull why are you convinced that i somehow took money from Haveno? It's something weird to come up with when all the funds are there and all discussions public. WOuld like to know if this comes from you or somebody else 10:18:09 of all things people made up about me, that's definitely the weirded one 10:18:14 I'm not saying you stole anything, I'm saying thanks to your actions Haveno launched without a nice UI even though it raised 150k specifically for that purpose 10:18:19 no wait, my love for zcash is the weirder one 10:18:40 What are your basis to claim something like that? 10:19:16 the fact that when i left i ensured the ui was going to be built reguardless is not enough? I didn't have to at all. 10:19:41 Stop trying to gaslight, I was there when this happened 10:20:28 i'm not gaslighting anything and you are either misremembering or blatantly lie. Why don't you rebuke my claims instead of (easily enough) refusing to answer? 10:20:48 you were no near close haveno development or internals. You know nothing 10:21:10 I know quite a lot, I was voted into the engine council 10:21:54 I had already left by then if this really happened 10:22:02 still doesn't give a good explanation about the lie of me speculating with haveno money or stealing them entirely 10:22:18 That you even have the gall to show up here and continue exactly where you left off 10:23:48 you are spreading lies about me and even pin it on reddit. I would say it's my right to at least ask for explanations and proofs. Which you don't give, because you don't have them, because it's all nonsense 10:24:18 Because it happened what, 2.5 years ago? 10:24:36 I know you are only here because firo is poor now 10:24:47 you might have spent a couple of years telling each other lies about me and be very happy about it, but that doesn't make them true. Like the firo, zcash, haveno, and whatever other bullshit you come up with 10:24:53 Just fuck back off, maybe zano will take you 10:26:13 You've previously shown how mega toxic you are, that's why I'm so toxic in response. 10:26:42 We don't need drama queens like you who don't actually ever contribute anything of value. 10:28:22 ok right kid. Luckily i couldn't care less of what your opinion is. You not even trying to warn people about the risking of using haveno-reto and simply shilling "use retoswap" when somebody asks a question, shows who you are. A shill who doesn't care to warn people. We built monero for years without people like you and we always put users first. 10:29:05 then the swarm of you fine people arrived and the weakness of everybody else empowered your bullying attitude. 10:30:16 where is the translations workgroup i built for years? where is the website workgroup? you are like a virus destroying everything you touch in name of your agenda. I despise you 10:30:28 and that's it from your friendly erc 🙂 have a lovely day and raimbows 10:31:04 >You not even trying to warn people about the risking of using haveno-reto and simply shilling "use retoswap" when somebody asks a question, shows who you are. A shill who doesn't care to warn people. 10:31:21 you literally brought up that argument on reddit and i replied you clow 10:32:44 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1izhfp6/comment/mf7vq8z/ here, in case you missed it 10:33:20 there are hundreds of comments from you on many social media suggesting people to use reto without any more warning. Your reddit history has many examples. 10:33:59 in your opinion, what am i supposed to say to someone who asks where to buy non-kyc monero? localmonero? 10:34:29 there are risks to monero as well, yet i shill monero 10:34:53 its absolutely braindead to expect a disclaimer on everything 10:35:18 don't play stupid. I'm saying that you not warning people about the risks of using reto is disgusting and shows the depts of your ethics. i don't care of what you do i care of the people you put in danger just to push your agenda 10:35:37 it's braindead to suggest to use a tool without warning that the tool is experimental and serious potential issues 10:35:48 its also not really my job? haveno is the best way to do p2p trading we have. I am suggesting people to use the best way to do p2p trading, not my job to also inform them on the general risks of said p2p trading.... 10:36:19 as i said, your ethics and morals show 10:36:21 [CCS Proposals] Wallet Verse opened merge request #556: [Grant] walletverse monero integration https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/556 10:36:23 haha youre just salty because Haveno is actually doing pretty well without you 10:39:57 pretty well? There is total confusion over haveno, reto, retoswap, etc. A few weeks ago somebody was complaining on reddit that in a week there were 10 sellers. Reto is run by unknown individual that might be russian, so under US sanctions. They plan to collect f ees and they did for a while even if now they don't do it. That means that if the operators are really under sanctions, 10:39:58 every user has sent these people a tiny amount of money. Do you get the potential complications of that? Do you think that me busting my ass for months to come up with a structure to make Haveno legally resistant was just for fun? 10:40:57 who are the arbitrators? are they the same operators? so maybe under sanctions as well? 10:41:37 you might not care about any of thise, but if you suggest somebody to use a tool, you should also tell them of the issues of the platforms, otherwise you are being dishonest and putting people's funds in danger. 10:45:05 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] wallet-verse opened pull request #556: Walletverse monero integration 10:45:05 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/556 10:46:28 this is literally the definition of concern trolling 10:46:43 none of this matters if haveno still is the best option for p2p trading 10:47:42 you failed miserably with the frontend ccs and abandoned the project, you have zero right to shit on the current state of Haveno 10:48:31 do I have a right ? 10:48:56 full disclosure: I am ErCiccione, syntheticbird has been a year long cover to infiltrate Monero again 10:49:01 and suggesting i am somehow immoral asshole with no ethics for, checks notes, recommending the decentralized open source p2p option over centralized websites, is frankly insane and you are clearly just trying to attack my character 11:04:43 i don't think it's been a full year since the last round of attacks 11:05:13 <321bob321:monero.social> Must be bored 11:05:56 <321bob321:monero.social> Chaos agent 11:07:03 ok guys, hear me out 11:07:57 Theres a very, very good reason he doesn't like mbll: Monerochan. 11:08:45 ofrnxmr: Synbhebird (Crodyceps infected 🍄☣️) Dan (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Qtip USAID Advocate) Backup plowsof 11:08:46 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/PwELDKvZcHOjyCsztkoXKCwM 11:09:20 really makes you think, doesnt it 🤔 11:09:47 hmh 11:09:55 ok 11:10:13 it's very sus 11:10:17 not an evidence 11:10:20 but very sus 11:10:23 <321bob321:monero.social> Exposed 11:10:54 <321bob321:monero.social> Erc do you know kewbit ? 11:11:41 Yeah, but erc's a total snowflake, and kewbit thought diego was core 11:14:53 honestly I don't think this is him 11:15:06 kewbit could just have profited from the fact that Erc departed to start his operation 11:15:09 yeah its unlikely 11:15:26 but still a funny coincidence 11:15:37 and kewbit political opinion are the exact opposite of Erc + Erc must be a very good actor to act like Kewbit 11:15:42 yeah definitely 11:16:02 <321bob321:monero.social> Emmy award 11:16:33 Never heard erc talk abt tor-over-tor 12:23:08 now i see how completely fabricated lies can spread so quickly around here. You guys have the investigation skills of the pink panther 12:24:23 still sad to see how your n 1 effort is to immediately look around in the hope of finding new ways to attack me personally instead of addressing my concerns. 12:24:58 So.. very good? 12:25:33 yes. You are as sharp as you look 12:27:16 well, "sound" i guess it's better. Your choice 12:34:31 ErCiccione (new account: @erc:cryptoriot.org): is not kewbit btw 12:39:03 the old account or erc / power level of 1 / audit complete 12:41:41 We are just bored and out of the story for real 12:46:02 So.. pretty sharp then? 12:47:18 I understand that youre saying that i'm the sharp one (because i knowbyou're not kewbit) 12:47:25 I am sharp then? 12:50:15 Yes 12:53:21 i am offended by ercs mere presence 12:54:21 the sheer audacity to come crawling back and to do so only after firo didn't work out 12:54:35 it is so obvious that this is what's going on here 12:56:16 and Erc, don't pretend that you did your best to have the haveno UI seen through. I know what actually happened, don't push it. 13:10:59 and he's blaming WHO for translation workgroup>?? Lmao 13:11:06 It was dead before he left 13:17:34 Blurry. Can’t read much of anything 13:39:04 🍿 14:08:49 So this is how all the bullshit get created. You just say something, somebody else who doesn't like me confirms it and suddenly it is the truth. It's so sad to see how low this community have ended up 14:11:11 Shut up erc 14:11:19 we clearly dont want you around 14:11:20 read the room 14:11:22 you havent denied that you are crawling back because firo is now broke 14:11:25 because we all know that that is why you are here 14:11:59 Dear god, why is this what I come back to? 14:13:17 then i ask you again to provide some proof. You claimed that i stole money without giving proofs, i rebuked you argument and told you the many ways to verify. You refuse that too and keep pushing your poin, again without provifing any proof but instead coming upwith a screenshot of some guy claiming that might be me. Get your shit together, you act as a child. I think it's clear t 14:13:18 o anyone at this point that you don't care of what's tru and what's not true, you just want to attack me. Feel free to go on 14:13:22 Also monerobull, could you maybe rephrase your stickied comment to sound more informative instead of provocative? Either that or just unsticky it if it isn’t meant to be informative of the situation 14:13:44 you know that when you get paid the rate of the currency doesn't matter? You get paid always the same amount. 14:13:51 bruhs, please take it somewhere else cc: plowsof 14:14:15 projecting so hard https://matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:matrix.org/$H2CB9R2JQSSm_7OQPugMx2GkoXWiIK5UanVreYf1C5M?via=cypherstack.com&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social 14:14:18 i'm being attacked and i'm answering. I hope that's allowed 14:15:31 i hope the monero community will never fund you for anything again after the haveno ui disaster 14:15:40 you have used up all godwill and trust years ago 14:15:57 sure projecting, crying, scamming. Whatever you want. But you keep claiming things knowing their are false.The mask is down 14:16:17 got damn why can't this room have a fucking mod team plowsof 14:16:24 *sigh* 14:16:24 “Was ErC ever in **direct** possession of the UI money, such that they were able to take the money. Show proof of your point.” 14:16:27 ive been very open with my opinions for years now 14:16:48 prove any of your claim or stop trolling. The money for the UI are still there, since you are so good at shilling, why don't you tke the responsability of coordinating that work on you? Only good for trollling and shilling? 14:16:57 Norrin, which room should this go in? 14:16:59 nobody is claiming erc stole anything 14:17:02 this is manipulation 14:17:04 focusing on that 14:17:08 nobody claims it 14:17:23 the claim is that thanks to his actions Haveno launched without a nice UI even though it raised 150k specifically for that purpose 14:17:25 no. This is me not leaving and pushing you to actually prove your claims for once 14:17:26 it was his job 14:17:36 my claims? 14:17:48 download the client from retoswap.com and see for yourself 14:17:58 i dont see a shiny ui 14:18:11 “This guy has essentially pissed away 150k of community money” 14:18:12 That sounds a lot like stealing that money, especially with the recent context of kewbit. Could you rephrase this please? 14:18:14 this is again false. The UI was not meant to launch at the same time of haveno. it's very hard to understand if you are completely in the dark or you are saying bullshit on purpose. i'm more inclinded for the latter 14:18:25 this shit was one of the bigger scandals in monero when it happened 14:18:37 im not just going to act like it never happened 14:18:40 erc is burnt 14:18:51 pissing away does not mean stealing 14:18:59 i'm arguing with a third grader jesus 14:19:15 erc you havent changed a bit in the last 5 years 14:19:38 you keep repeating that i'm the disaster in person, but never once you even try to back your claim. You are all air 14:19:40 you could have made your comeback with a different approach 14:19:47 i never worked with you. I had actual work to do, not only trolling 14:20:03 i have no interest of coming back if that's what you think. I just want to set some things straight 14:20:16 my claim is that you had a job, raised 150k and fucked it up, blaming the community, leaving for a competitor for two years and are now crawling back 14:20:50 you are a broken record man. Back up your claim or shut up. Nothing of what you claim happened 14:20:52 like an ex that cheats on you and 2 years later asks you for money 14:20:59 i never blamed the community either 14:21:08 you did 14:21:11 you are a compulsive lier, i rake it 14:21:23 you said you are leaving because we didnt want your censorship coc 14:21:45 never said that. This is another 100% lie 14:21:48 this shit dont work on me 14:21:56 *can either of you back up any of your claims with a direct source? CCS PRs? Chat archives? Anything?* 14:22:20 you did 14:22:27 you can also ask the people directly involved how things went 14:22:30 but you wiped your twitter 14:22:35 pretty sure siren was around 14:22:39 i didn't wipe anything. it's stronger than you to lie isn't it? 14:22:43 siren, care to join :D 14:22:54 Synbhebird (Crodyceps infected 🍄☣️): can you make another one of those pages like you did for kewbit but this time for erc 14:22:59 ahahah yeah another one who hates me for my politics 14:23:13 next let's ask rotten 14:23:17 What abt woodser 14:23:20 or ofrnxmr 14:23:33 Sure, ask him too. 14:24:23 i mean, he is another person i'm in very bad terms with, but if he is going to be honest he will say how things went 14:25:30 how come everyone around here hates you? 14:25:41 surely it cant be you that is the issue 14:25:44 Pretty sure whatever I say will get dismissed the same way. 14:26:05 so woodser how is it? Did i steal the money? Did i speculate with ccs funds? Did i withdraw any payment or try to do any funny business? and did i leave haveno ensuring the ui was going to be built or not? even if i didn't have any reason to? 14:26:23 nobody stole any funds 14:26:33 dont 14:26:39 this is his manipulation 14:26:45 ccs funds we received were used for the ui, and many funds remain under ccs custody 14:27:08 thanks woodser 14:27:12 exaggerate regular claims to make them sound ridiclious 14:27:15 nobody said you stole anything 14:27:27 so, this would have taken anybody 5 seconds to verify by themselves, because the ccs is public and all the funds are clearly still there. 14:28:48 best case you severely mismanaged it and directly crippled haveno for years to come 14:29:01 you literally stickied a post on reddit that said i stole funds or speculated with them. Your lies have been uncovered, but my guess it's that you are not goijg to edit your post and apologise 🙂 14:29:08 pissed away 14:29:10 stop making things up 14:29:12 just stop it 14:29:14 you pissed the ccs away 14:29:27 through sheer incompetence 14:29:32 alright go on. Clearly the truth is something you don't like to be bothered with 14:29:59 the truth is that i would like you to leave us alone, youve showed who you are 2 years ago 14:30:01 https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/haveno-frontend.html 14:30:15 Let’s play where’s Waldo. 14:31:03 you wish my dear. The time of saying whatever you want without consequences or fact checking it's over 14:31:37 have you been asleep the past 2 years? 14:31:41 society has shifted 14:31:53