03:51:45 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> New SW release.
11:48:41 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Need to be excited
12:40:54 <midipoet> spirobel: for your Monero web wallet, is the multi-sig 2 of 3, or 2 of 4? It's not exactly clear from the diagram on this: https://monerochan.news/article/15 . Maybe this is this still something to work out, or does it depend on the use-case/implementation?
14:38:22 <superquantum> Howdy, peeps 
15:14:19 <m-relay> <s​pirobel:kernal.eu> people have not fully grasped this yet. FROST can contain hundreds of signers. The threshold / number of total signers is not hardcoded in the wallet. It is up to the specific application to propose a setup to the user. There is a lot of potential for variety to experiment with. One concrete output will be escrow as part of the "stripe payment links"-like product that I started bu<clipped message>
15:14:20 <m-relay> <s​pirobel:kernal.eu> ilding. People will be able to select the self hosted instance of someone else to handle arbitration. During the checkout flow the browser wallet will offer to contact this web service and create a new multisig wallet with them as a partial signer.
15:27:17 <superquantum> -Two Wallets Increase Your Privacy - 
15:27:17 <superquantum> RULE 1: Only share hidden addresses (starting with 8...) for your Login wallet.
15:27:18 <superquantum> RULE 2: Always create a new hidden address for different people or services. For example, do not share the same address on two different exchanges, as this harms your privacy.
15:27:18 <superquantum> RULE 3: Only send funds from your Outgoing wallet, never share addresses from this wallet!
15:27:18 <superquantum> RULE 4: Only send funds from your Incoming wallet to top up funds in your Outgoing wallet. Never send funds to third parties from your Incoming wallet!
15:29:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Dont repeat openmonero's nonsense here, sir
15:30:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bro even edited it
15:30:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Openmonero said "stealth" addresses
15:45:39 <superquantum> That's right, stealth addresses 
15:46:26 <superquantum> m-relay: my apologies 
15:46:54 <plowsof> you just got prompted / pranked 
15:48:02 <plowsof> https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/stealthaddress.html
15:50:18 <superquantum> plowsof: 👍🏻
15:50:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Plowsof, bro just copied something openmonero posted in monerotopia last week
15:51:18 <plowsof> stealth addresses beginning with 8 yeah yeah lol 
15:51:34 <plowsof> new alias - ctrl+v some garbage + hello my fellow monerians 
15:51:55 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And seems to have made his own edits to it, lol
15:52:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://matrix.to/#/!npkmLLzZKkgfwNpmlV:monero.social/$fKF_Zqv5pYkv28lUMIGaaQXBavjyiMQ4G4F1Ov9l-EA?via=xmr.mx&via=t2bot.io&via=matrix.org
15:52:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Openmonero asked a question
18:36:52 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> luigi1111 forgor me its so over
18:48:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> youre like #8 line, dw
18:50:41 <nioc> syncbird do u need a loan?
18:50:59 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> with negative interests yes
18:52:22 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> interest rate*
18:52:29 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> or whatever you capitalist people call it
18:52:49 <plowsof> syntheticbird thank you for your patience - its not yet sunrise on the island 
18:53:28 <plowsof> ofrnxmr was #8 - people who ask wen after  less than a week has passed get put to the back of the line
18:53:31 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ooooooooooooooooh right
18:53:35 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx plowsof
19:05:16 <plowsof> syncing a wallet from block 0 to 3050000 using a remote node was 2x quicker with this PR from jberman https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/9936 , performance gain over a full sync not tested yet 
19:07:03 <plowsof> credits to jeffro256 weeee 
19:08:14 <plowsof> a rewrite of the wallet scanner from c++ to c++ shaping up nicely 
19:08:37 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx for precising plowsof, these days its very easy to assume any PR is a rewrite in Rust
19:08:50 <plowsof> :P
19:08:59 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> You mean, you _don't_ hit monerod with 32 threads of requests simultaneously like I do?
19:09:08 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> Congrats to all involved :D
19:11:00 <plowsof> a new PR from molly dev of a similar note https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/9935 
19:11:25 <plowsof> "if a wallet was restored from a height earlier than the latest checkpoint (now 3375700), wallet2 would fallback to downloading block hashes from height 0 (genesis)."
19:12:54 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> I read complaints about that. Was that bug introduced recently?
19:13:22 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> THATS WHY CAKE WALLET WAS SYNCING FROM 0?????
19:13:30 <plowsof> i think people have been reporting a similar issue to cake
19:13:36 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I got crazy over this
19:13:37 <plowsof> yeah, likely 
19:13:45 <plowsof> c++ to c++ leets goo
19:13:58 * m-relay <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> reacts with 🚀
19:14:16 <plowsof> c++ to c++ then rust for the chefs kiss , 5 stars
19:15:09 <plowsof> if anyone is wondering (Jackie) these 2 are not related to EP159 and EP160 ;-) 
19:15:55 <plowsof> valdrac^
19:18:39 <m-relay> <v​alldrac:matrix.org> I just found that issue while writing unit tests for our Android SDK
19:19:30 <plowsof> valldrac* 💪
19:28:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> valldrac  does it work properly if there are no checkpoints defines? (falls back to old behavior etc)
19:29:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I always thought it was necessary behavior. Wallets have always "fast synced" from 0. I always thought that was expected :D
19:32:25 <m-relay> <v​alldrac:matrix.org> Yes, if there's no checkpoint before the restore height, or no checkpoints at all, it starts from zero