00:32:02 <321bob321:monero.social> Touching grass 09:33:06

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https://youtube.com/shorts/zDJGipGbFZI?feature=share 10:29:08 [CCS Proposals] wikig opened merge request #587: Add moneropen TMA wallet . https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/587 10:30:11 plowsof 10:37:22 yes PyXMR ? are we committing fraud again today? 10:38:46 ? 10:38:50 not me. 10:39:25 what did you ping me for? 10:39:26 what? 10:40:44 Do you remove my gitlab ID? 10:41:49 yes you are banned from the ccs repo 10:42:01 PyXMR2025? 10:43:37 This ID? 10:43:59 is banned? 10:54:39 Why? 11:00:59 ai enthusiast is a crime 11:04:21 so we have a decentralised telegram monero wallet with local synchronisation(?) using some npm things and the author isn't that great at copy and pasting text / editing the authors name to his own 11:11:17 https://www.npmjs.com/package/@tonsprotocol/telegram-cloudstorage-wallet "Telegram Webapp CloudStorage Multichain Wallet Solution SDK" 11:18:15 " - Utilizes the TMA-specific Webapp CloudStorage to store user private keys and wallet data in a decentralized manner, eliminating single-point-of-trust risk. " 11:18:18 oh come on 11:23:44 easywallet 11:25:07 "eliminating single point of trust RISK" 😆 11:26:34 by adding multiple-point-of-failure 11:34:29 <321bob321:monero.social> Is that just openmonero in reverse ? 13:32:55 use telegram who now has to give up data when requested :D 15:12:11 mhm.png 15:12:27 i've so many questions... 15:17:01 checked all the orga and repo 15:17:08 my kewbit vibe check tell me it's not kewbit 15:17:24 but it's very clearly sus 15:21:25 r4v3r23 : i wouldnt rush to add 9936 yet. i was unable to get consistent 'wallet syncing over tor' data (each attempt has wildly different times) and now this comment by MrCyjanek https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/9936#issuecomment-2908802327) 15:56:09 I'm testing now btw 15:56:25 Just regular sync, not background 15:57:20 https://github.com/cake-tech/cake_wallet/actions/runs/15248365169 - if somebody wants to test on cake .apk with that patch 17:44:24 Hm. I ran 4 times, 30mins each 17:46:01 syncing from 3m block height 17:46:01 master = 47348 (outlier) 17:46:03 9936 = 79267 17:46:05 9936 = 81115 17:46:07 master = 81115 (identical to 9336) 17:50:25 hit the ground running 22:32:46 Hello, 22:32:47 I have filed a FTBFS and it is receiving no attention. 22:32:49 I understand and respect that the devs have limited capacity, so I'm just humbly remining myself. 22:32:51 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/9932 22:33:01 Hello, 22:33:01 I have filed a FTBFS and it is receiving no attention. 22:33:03 I understand and respect that the devs have limited capacity, so I'm just humbly reminding myself. 22:33:05 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/9932 22:38:49 well done, dude 22:42:10 Me? 22:42:34 Or is that continuation of something I didn't read? 22:42:56 (Contexts can get very long and asking once is easier for everyone.) 22:43:23 Tag people you respond to!. 22:43:26 Tag people you respond to! 22:51:47 Run `make -j4` 22:53:07 Cmake doesn't even finish configuring - there is no makefile yet. 22:53:30 plowsof extorting honest devs cc NorrinRadd https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1kw7guh/haveno_crossplatform_app_cancelled_ios_android/ 22:57:39 🫵🤣 23:05:04 plowsof 23:05:07 will give an answer 23:05:09 hold on 23:05:15 im back on r/monero 23:08:27 You dont have to run cmake 23:09:13 ANd why on earth would I *not* configure the build for my system? 23:09:18 And why on earth would I _not_ configure the build for my system? 23:09:39 And why on Earth would I _not_ configure the build for my system? 23:09:46 ``` 23:09:47 git clone https://github.com/monero-project/monero --depth 1 --recursive 23:09:49 cd monero 23:09:51 git submodule update --init 23:09:53 make -j4 23:09:55 ``` 23:09:57 success 23:10:43 nah, the committed Makefile is just wrapping cmake. https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/Makefile 23:13:03 thanks mbll syntheticbird 23:13:41 I'll be honest 23:13:51 I've tried to build monerod on arch linux several time 23:14:00 and it's clearly different between bare metal and CI 23:14:20 for example, I can't build it on my machine because Sodium.cmake fail miserably to find libsodium 23:14:33 I can't explain why Arch is being schizo like that 23:14:41 RIght, they use some sorts of container on another OS, right? 23:14:44 I just built it 23:14:54 ofrnAI: you built it in a container? 23:14:58 No 23:15:11 I built it like so ^ 23:15:14 I think it's because of the rolling distro release. you need to have fresh updates to get the same behavior. 23:15:22 I do the exact same and it don't find libsodium 23:15:26 My arch is up to date 23:15:28 I'm telling you Arch is schizo 23:15:33 mine too 23:15:50 Yours is racist 23:15:59 (Just like you) 23:16:11 😂 23:16:38 Ive never built monero on arch before now 23:16:47 In any case, my issue is that I get and error and can't build. 23:16:47 They can build, but have a deprec. warning in their build log, which is also an issue. 23:16:49 Both get fixed to updating the cmakelists of the project to exclue CMake < 3.10 versions. 23:16:59 In any case, my issue is that I get and error and can't build. 23:16:59 They can build, but have a deprec. warning in their build log, which is also an issue. 23:17:01 Both get fixed to updating the cmakelists of the project to exclude CMake \< 3.10 versions. 23:17:03 I clone repo, installed dependencies as listed in readme, and like magic, it worked 23:17:21 Have you tried "make" 23:17:40 I have deprecsted warning too, but it builds 23:17:43 Have you tried imposing a developer mindset? 23:17:59 Have you tried make? 23:18:22 And reading the makefile? Mr developer mindset that doesnt read the makefile?? 23:18:37 I don't need to build it from source right now. 23:18:37 I am preparing a set of projects I'd like to share feedback to and possibly provide some dev cycles. 23:18:52 I just do it to check on issues. 23:18:53 I found some, I will continue when resolved. 23:19:17 No i have not tried imposing a developer mindset. I like to RTFM and if things work by RTFM then its usually a "skill issue" when it doesnt work when i do things "my own way" 23:19:23 This is Monero *Workgroup*, not *usergroup*. 23:19:25 I am here to help maintain stuff. 23:19:43 So fix the build issue 23:19:48 Spitting out deprecation warnings means a failure is imminent. 23:19:57 No it doesnt 23:20:28 Newer version will eventually come that changes deprecation to build fail. 23:21:19 So 23:21:43 Have you tried building according to the build instructions yet? 23:22:39 And is your arch system a clean system? A daily driver? A workstation? 23:23:02 Because mine is clean (a few days old), and built on 1st try 23:25:05 The build instructions ommit the cmake step, true, but 23:25:05 the CI performs a cmake command and has a similar issue: 23:25:07 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/actions/runs/15240535234/job/42860042197?pr=9936 23:25:09 It's my daily driver, this installation is there for about 3 months. 23:25:29 They dont omit the step, its defined in the makefile (!!) 23:26:22 and yes my logs look the same as the ci, but the like the ci, the build succeeds 23:26:45 Yes, so you have no intention on helping fix this issue, so fuck off kindly. 23:27:10 issue "fail to build" << it doesnt fail 23:27:22 Real issue "i dont like the deprecated warning" 23:27:28 Yes, both should be fixed. 23:27:34 They get fixed by the same solution. 23:27:49 Updating CMakeLists to not support old CMake. 23:27:51 I support dormouse 23:28:08 also this should be a #monero-dev:monero.social discussion 23:28:26 we support 20.04 for another year iirc 23:28:29 Whatever cmake is supported there, will remain supported 23:29:03 also fuck the Makefile 23:29:24 U just mad because your arch is schizo 23:29:31 every single distro on earth is packaging monero using `cmake` 23:29:39 directly 23:29:58 I never tried cmake directly, shall ? 23:30:03 Shall i? 23:30:22 Thanks, it means more than you think. Sometimes I feel like I am the only one who cares for proper soft ware maintenance. 23:30:23 But if that were the case, only these douches would 'care' for the projects and they would be long dead. 23:30:31 Thanks, it means more than you think. Sometimes I feel like I am the only one who cares for proper software maintenance. 23:30:31 But if that were the case, only these douches would 'care' for the projects and they would be long dead. 23:30:41 OH I DONT KNOW 23:30:48 Same 23:30:58 MAYBE TRY BEFORE ACTING LIKE A JHACKASS 23:31:15 no douches 23:31:21 Why? Issue said fail to buikd, ci builds and so does my system 23:31:23 you have only interacted with ofnrxmr so far 23:31:30 please take this discussion to #monero-dev:monero.social 23:31:40 and mine doesn't 23:31:47 Skill issue 23:31:54 thx you ofrnxmr 23:32:02 gf yourself 23:32:12 and please talk when you have something sensible to say 23:32:55 Hey, i only entered this convo bcuz _you_ pointed out that it built on ci 23:33:01 But linked to a master ci 23:33:10 And the last release ci was 20 days ago 23:33:29 Oh wait, i built master too, whoops. Disnt even try release 🤦‍♂️ 23:35:01 there was a time before we had an arch workflow, come closer Arch OS users 23:35:30 (just dont make -gui graphical issues please) 23:35:40 Normal people procrastinate by watching porn instead of working. 23:35:41 I wanted to masturbate half an hour ago and all I'm doing is filing open source bugs. 23:36:13 FUCK YOU ALL 23:36:14 we understand and fully appreciate your sacrifice 23:36:16 every single on of you 23:36:17 Thank you. 23:36:31 I like this guy here. 23:36:46 Anyway, bored now 23:36:56 I abandon, dormouse seethe about it 23:37:18 ofrnAI try fucking cmake before talking about the makefile it's literally the same 23:37:23 plowsof i love you as usual 23:37:29 good night 23:37:38 I hate most GUIs, I'm on a toaster computer. 23:38:12 NetBSD toaster? 23:38:25 I only know how to RTFM and do as told in the instructions 23:38:49 I tried OpenBSD, I like it the most of BSDs. 23:38:49 It can't use my nvidia card properly, not even for computing. 23:39:40 So I'm stuck with Linux. But boy it's a Stallman-signed thinkpad! 23:39:44 Yeah, I understand. 23:39:45 Support is mostly burk if it's not a mainstream OS., Specially if you use a card that no real opensource support 23:39:58 He inscriebd "Happy Hacking" 23:40:07 He inscribed "Happy Hacking" 23:40:21 I heard AMD is chill. 23:40:35 So when this new desktop is going to become old, it's gonna receive BSD treatment. 23:40:52 New desktop isn't finished for one more month, so I'm still on this machine. 23:41:23 AMD do opensource support so it's just work better. 23:41:25 And BSD (at least freebsd), do copy Linux DRM stack so it work good on there too 23:43:37 `cmake ..` works on master 23:45:28 Cool, but that doesn't provide a solution. 23:45:29 A dev must either backport the fix and make an 18.4.1 release, or ship it in whatever they plan next. 23:47:50 master will eventually be pushed to release iiuc , do you have a line of the warning during arch build for convenience to add to the issue? the link didnt work 23:47:52 Part of the plan is to ship master in the next release 23:50:41 [@dormouse:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@dormouse:matrix.org) it does fail in the release tag :D 23:50:54 It **is** in the issue. 23:51:22 Hence the issue is filed. 23:51:23 No shit, sherlock. 23:52:47 It does NOT fail on the release branch 23:52:55