02:30:37 <m-relay> <p​yxmr2025:mozilla.org> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-front/-/merge_requests/42
09:14:21 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/yYTpqUujZCPVvcvjtsxgmhdF
09:14:24 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Let's not hire these guys again
09:14:55 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://x.com/dontbuymonero/status/1958595940719218948
09:25:59 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> https://x.com/VeridiseInc/status/1958777888280400114
09:29:15 <plowsof> One if those automated 'whats trending' + AI slop 
09:29:21 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> I understand your anger and your frustration, monerobull, but companies that can audit our stuff are not too numerous, and to apply a "**one** strike and you are out" looks a bit risky to me ...
09:33:06 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> If they can't verify basic information like this they have no business in our codebase
09:34:05 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> At least demand a 15% discount next time, this is outrageous. If we were a company we would have sued them for damages
09:36:40 <plowsof> Let me check kewbits newsite to compare xD
09:38:24 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Lmao
09:38:36 <plowsof> There was another twitter scandal from someone behind mymonero account iirc, something dumb
09:42:04 <plowsof> Their excuse should just be that they generate these top 5's automatically by obtaining the top 5 most trending posts - they looked at the 1st one, didnt check the rest and pushed it - and they have outsourced the twitter account to someone on fiverr who has been replaced now sorry , anyway, back to research and the outstanding bill for 36k the ccs
09:42:04 <plowsof> research fund owes us 
09:58:53 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> Unfortunately, that scenario even sounds a bit plausible
11:08:02 <nioc> •plowsof> There was another twitter scandal <<>> isn't that the purpose of twitter?
11:22:34 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> rbrunner7, they may not be too numerous but we're still very finicky on who we chose for the job. Afaik, Veridise and Cypherstack has always been our primary choices, what about Zellic? I'm sorry but I agree with monerobull, we need to communicate this information to Veridise and have an appropriate response. That's outrageous.
11:25:17 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'm not shy to say there are better competitors than Veridise in town
11:25:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Veridise auditing libs using claude /s
11:39:13 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> exactomondo.
11:39:23 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> be patient. it's a German thing... 😂
11:40:22 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> "we" sounds like a stadium, kitty. check who hit veridise's hotline last and rethink that we.
13:02:53 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> https://xcancel.com/VeridiseInc/status/1958779949222920626
13:03:53 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> Oh rbrunner posted it my bad
13:14:39 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx veridise
15:11:26 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> We need audit of veridse’s audit.
15:15:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats what cypherstack did
15:17:50 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> we need one more. should we engage veridise into reviewing their audit?
16:02:42 <nioc> Cat enjoys sitting on papers
16:02:52 <m-relay> <k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Jokes aside, my assumption is they have someone running 'news' which followed the 'news'. It doesn't say anything about the researchers we worked with.
16:12:26 <m-relay> <a​illia:matrix.org> https://xcancel.com/AilliaLink/status/1958614058883850720
16:14:33 <m-relay> <k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> While I have opinions on the tweet, yeah, I definitely don't want it to demerit their work nor our relationship
16:18:19 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i admit i got heated beyond rational. I don't wanna appear like I blame their researcher whatsoever. It's just the combination of last audit having to be redone + now the tweet that make me very suspicious on there company policy.
16:19:41 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> tho i stick on the statement that there are other competitors, potentially better in town
16:38:47 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Cyphergoat is solo mining with ~18 Mh/s from miningrigrentals. Doing our part 🫡 https://x.com/cyphergoatcom/status/1958930728122560591
16:41:37 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Cyphergoat is solo mining with ~18 Mh/s from miningrigrentals. Doing our part 🫡 https://x.com/cyphergoatcom/status/1958932330862571724
17:06:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Did you rent from someone who was already mining 🙈
17:10:05 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> yeah i think the word needs to get out that renting hashrate is like not great
17:10:10 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> like, like like
17:11:09 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> it'd be different if renting hashrate meant spinning up new AWS instances, but i don't think you can mine on AWS anymore
17:12:08 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> but i have no idea. maybe you can
17:13:03 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> if so, that'd be a good enterprise to counter the lunacy of the current market. some web front, accept payment, backend launches AWS instances with a custom image with p2pool etc
17:14:15 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> or just create a new pool. AWSrentalpool.com . leave poor p2pool alone
17:15:19 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> cause right now there's no guarantee that your not renting hashrate straight from qubic
17:15:33 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> as far as I understand things
17:17:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> unless the hashrate is dormant when you rent it, its probably a bad idea
17:17:20 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> but how do you verify that?
17:18:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Miningrigrentals, afaict, has to have the rig "available" and monitors it
17:18:24 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> basically it'd be neat if anyone had any data on what MRR looked like 6 months ago.
17:18:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> A lot of rentals show their current hashrate
17:18:41 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> gotcha
17:19:17 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> because 50 MH/s ..... thats a lot
17:21:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Lol most of them show 0 live hashrate atm
17:22:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> During qubic marathon they were all mining
17:22:26 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Pretty sure that ours was showing 0 before we rented it
17:22:36 <m-relay> <4​rkal:monero.social> Which I found quite strange at the time…
17:22:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So these are probably mining qubic until you pay them 0.9ltc to rent them (right now 0.43)
17:23:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yeah, looks like most of them are showing 0 today. They were all mining during qubics marathon
17:23:24 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> like this one? https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/159747/?currency=BTC
17:23:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> This smells like they belong to qubic. all stop mining for 24hrs = difficulty drops.
17:24:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yup. Theyre all idle, which is crazy
17:26:32 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> i wonder how much they've made off of this strategy of selling the cure for the disease they created
17:41:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> selling cigarettes to cure cancer
18:32:08 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> gingeropolous: https://web.archive.org/web/20250207161250/https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/randomx
18:49:38 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> hullo
18:50:35 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> what parts do i need for a dedicated miner? i'm looking into a budget setup
18:51:01 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> just mobo, cpu, ram, psu and storage?
19:00:51 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> I think it's time for Dope Wallet to come on the scene
19:39:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Me too
19:42:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> yea. Cooling perhaps
19:47:14 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> hrm, https://aws.amazon.com/aup/ . nothing about mining
19:48:01 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> i have a cpu cooler but idk if i want to put it in a tower
19:48:19 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> i have a cpu cooler but idk if i want to put it in a tower
19:50:49 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> the cpu is a ryzen 9 7950x, does anyone here have a good motherboard that is compatible with it and not too expensive? i found one for €77 (MSI PRO A620M-B)
19:55:03 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Maybe can take some inspiration from here https://xmrbazaar.com/listing/azXJ/
19:55:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> this runs a 7900
19:57:06 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> his mobo has integrated wifi
19:57:12 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> isn't that a security risk
19:57:29 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> + what does he need all that storage and ram for
19:58:53 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> also what does he need all that storage and ram for
20:04:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Doesnt
20:04:32 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> exactly
20:05:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I said "inspiration" beecause you asked about mobo and posted a similar one to the 7900 build at the link
20:06:09 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> the problem is i have a different cpu i'm looking at and this device has some unnecessary parts
20:06:41 <plowsof> Suoerquantum you absolute 🤡
20:06:54 <plowsof> Superquantum 
20:09:20 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 1. this isn't the channel for it. go over #monero instead
20:09:21 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 2. a620 chipset can't overclock
20:09:42 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you'll need b650 or x670
20:09:51 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> thanks i'll move to that channel, also i'm looking to undervolt it to increase efficiency
20:10:19 <m-relay> <d​olus1:matrix.org> and to make it last longer
20:31:00 <m-relay> <m​x_mandelbrot42:matrix.org> Monero Mining
21:18:06 <nioc> dolus1 don't get the (MSI PRO A620M-B), get the cheapest B650on that asrock sells
21:18:25 <nioc> the model is.....
21:19:37 <nioc> B650M-HDV/M.2 AMD AM5 microATX Motherboard
22:36:46 <m-relay> <l​iberlion:matrix.org> Hey guys... does anyone else think that AI will have an impact on Monero sooner or later? 
22:36:47 <m-relay> <l​iberlion:matrix.org> I've written an article on this topic. I don't think it's something to be overlooked.
22:36:49 <m-relay> <l​iberlion:matrix.org> https://medium.com/@liberlion/monero-and-artificial-intelligence-opportunity-or-threat-5c71e2d2b3ce
22:37:50 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> _mmm slop.webm
23:00:22 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> yum less competition
23:00:53 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> to less than stellar results
23:02:34 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> ofrnxmr: where is dopewallet logo?
23:02:37 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its ok. My fcmp testing is the "dope wallet" of audits
23:02:41 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> I think I'll buy onedopewallet.com
23:02:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its in my pocket. Give me 2 secs
23:02:52 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> since dopewallet.com is taken and being resold for a million dollars
23:02:58 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> wtf
23:03:29 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > Only $424.79/mo. for 24 months
23:04:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/xjZtcSCQnhbixgEVanvlLjIr
23:05:01 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> vosto have competition
23:05:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No competition
23:05:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> if being generois, vost is like a 6/10 compared to this.
23:07:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> [@diego:cypherstack.com](https://matrix.to/#/@diego:cypherstack.com)  .org is available
23:08:15 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> some of my best work
23:09:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> seriously. Those eyes are intense
23:13:50 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> .orgs have now been restricted on namecheap
23:14:06 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> probably doesn't like that it says dope
23:14:55 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> This domain contains restricted phrases and can't be self-registered. Contact support to see if we can register it for you manually.
23:15:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Haters
23:15:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "wallet" is probably the triggerword
23:15:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> :P
23:15:58 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> you're right
23:16:03 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> I changed to dopewalle and it let me register
23:16:14 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> didn't go through with it though
23:17:19 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> what about wallel
23:17:27 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> or walleI
23:17:33 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> with a i instead of l
23:39:29 <m-relay> <f​iatdemise:matrix.org> Because it's not a dedicated mining rig. It's a general purpose PC that's tiny, quiet, and looks great in a home office or bedroom, AND is good at mining. If I wanted to make a PC just for mining I'd save a lot by speccing differently and having a big, loud, ugly machine in the basement.