05:20:38 <br-m> <modul8:matrix.org> Who looks after r monero and r xmrtrader. We need some updated sidebar resources... Localmonero and rink still listed.. No mention of haveno...
05:21:59 <br-m> <modul8:matrix.org> *Rino :)
06:08:18 <br-m> <321bob321> Thanks mbll
15:06:21 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> meeting in .. 55 mins https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1276 (then begins my log uploading punishment for my sins) 
16:01:25 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> Meeting time https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1276
16:01:27 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> greetings
16:01:39 <br-m> <rucknium> Hi
16:01:40 <br-m> <4rkal> Hello hello
16:01:42 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Hay
16:01:59 <br-m> <everoddandeven> Hello
16:02:21 <br-m> <r4v3r23> yo
16:02:43 <br-m> <tisktisk:xmr.mx> Aloha
16:02:53 <br-m> <syntheticbird> hello
16:04:16 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> jeffro256's latest CCS update that touches on stressnet alpha progress jeffro256 CCS update + stressnet progress https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/602#note_32245
16:04:16 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org>  
16:05:00 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> Ruckniums spammer has received some updates since last meeting https://github.com/Rucknium/xmrspammer 
16:05:49 <br-m> <rucknium> AFAIK, at least two other people are using it on stressnet. Most bugs have been eliminated.
16:05:50 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> everoddandevens monero-spammer was released also - he is fixing some issues with the monero-python .deb file for ubuntu so i can begin testing it https://github.com/everoddandeven/monero-spammer 
16:07:22 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> you didnt think starting 10 monero-wallet-rpc's was useful but you ended up finding a bug 😅
16:07:28 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> My spammer remains to be vaporware
16:07:30 <br-m> <hbs:matrix.org> hello
16:08:03 <br-m> <rucknium> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Harder to write something usable on another person's machine.
16:08:04 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Due to the the way my spammer works, it stopped working for a while
16:09:08 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> #monero-stressnet:monero.social for those who wish to follow goings on
16:09:30 <br-m> <r4v3r23> ANONERO milestone 3 is complete and users are reporting very positive feedback
16:09:34 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I did make a lot of improvements to it, for it to be usable by others. But major issue atm is the funding step. I currently run 2 variations of the script. One of them funds the spammer, the other does the spamming. I reuse wallets (so they have a large history). This lead to finding some big performance gains
16:09:36 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> #moneroswap:matrix.org hbs is offering to walk people through his evm atomic swaps
16:10:21 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> The next release of stressnet should have lightning fast refresh and wallet opening when there is a large txpool and a karge wallet
16:10:32 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Possibly fixes some issues noted by exchanges over the years
16:10:33 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> and has been discussing https://github.com/hbs/MoneroMisc/blob/master/CARROT-discussion.md 
16:13:08 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> @spackle_xmr:matrix.org: ran a blockchain sync on an ssd vs hdd for FCMP++ from/to a set height on stressnet, and they had similar enough sync times
16:14:01 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> @rbrunner7:monero.social highlighted that although FCMP++ is easier on drives (without looking up decoys) , nodes will still have to sync the "old" chain
16:14:40 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Currently, syncing from scratch on mainnet is faster than migrating 😬
16:15:16 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (like 16hrs vs 26)
16:15:45 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> also i did a torrent, DataHoarder introduced me to webseeds https://github.com/plowsof/monero-torrent/releases/tag/v0.18.4.3
16:16:10 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> uhhh new monero version 
16:16:23 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> https://www.getmonero.org/2025/10/08/monero-0.18.4.3-released.html
16:17:19 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> borked api @ https://miningpoolstats.stream/monero pls use https://blocks.p2pool.observer/ for an accurate view
16:18:37 <br-m> <rucknium> New release has stronger resistance to p2p spying, thanks to @rbrunner7:monero.social for writing the code, @boog900:monero.social for discovering the spy nodes,  and @jeffro256:monero.social  and @vtnerd:monero.social for reviewing the code : https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/9939
16:19:06 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> On subject of community feedback .. (this is for -site but figure i should post here while people are present).
16:19:06 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> do we prefer monero.com or cake wallet to be listed on getmonero?
16:19:07 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> list..[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/8cnD7L0KbGR2QVJn ]
16:19:26 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> Rucknium could you share you asmap web page again? 
16:19:56 <br-m> <rucknium> For everything you wanted to know about the new simple anti-spy technique and probably also some things you didn't want to know, you can read my research note: https://github.com/Rucknium/misc-research/blob/main/Monero-Peer-Subnet-Deduplication/pdf/monero-peer-subnet-deduplication.pdf
16:20:00 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/2541 should be noted that cake wants 1 or 3
16:20:36 <br-m> <rucknium> @plowsof:matrix.org: @plowsof:matrix.org: http://moneronet.info/
16:20:43 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> currently on site "monero .com" is displayed - but the hyperlink takes you to calewallet so thats like 2 SEO's for the price of 1 :P
16:21:04 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> Thanks
16:23:12 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> the original issue on site with monero dot com and cake wallet was that any multi wallet can create a monero only, monero + btc, etc etc version and drown the others out if you get me which would be rejection of 0 , at least back then when it was originally brought up
16:23:36 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> of 1*
16:24:15 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> https://www.getmonero.org/downloads/ for reference 
16:24:28 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> under Mobile & light wallets 
16:26:07 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> to me, it makes more sense to list the monero wallet whenever possible, especially since the monero wallet was created at our request
16:26:59 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> like, firo lists campfire, not stack wallet. They are the same codebase, but campfire ks firo-only
16:27:25 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> [2]
16:27:38 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> the firo is a direct comparison 
16:28:19 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> currently its "show monero .com" -> "link to cakewallet .com"
16:30:31 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> Actually, we have Stack Wallet in the list too, that is also a multi coin wallet, in that case [3] is also fine
16:30:52 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Stack doesnt make a monero only wallet, cuz theyre assholes cc @diego:cypherstack.com
16:31:04 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Firo and epic get their own wallets :( 
16:31:25 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> After the Duo an Uno was teased to be fair
16:31:46 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> They make stack duo (btc + xmr), but it lagged behind stack wallet, so i never recommended it 
16:32:51 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Im not against multiwallet listings, but if there is a "pure" option, we should be listing that. My2c
16:34:43 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> can move onto the CCS ideas if nothing else to share 
16:35:28 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> a. MoneroOS Resurrection (https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/596)
16:35:49 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> no feedback prev meeting
16:36:38 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> not looking like a merge (positive reddit threads alone seem to not be enough) 
16:36:49 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Still feel the sane way about that. I don't think there is an audience for this, at least not as designed / written
16:37:29 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> or as suggested, if the idea has overwhelming support seeking funding for it on a donation platform would be easier 
16:37:59 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> moving on 
16:38:01 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> b. Monero Python Maintenance (https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/598)
16:38:22 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> rabidmining types arent going to use it.  home miners can just use gupax or xmrig
16:38:23 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> @everoddandeven:monero.social through blood sweat and tears has been trying to get this to work on my machine :D
16:38:57 <br-m> <everoddandeven> I'm here if you have any question
16:39:19 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: also, i noticed a home miner using 1 screen and a box (forget the name) that receives video signal from all machines + 1 mouse/keyboard which looked convenient
16:39:59 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> https://github.com/everoddandeven/monero-spammer was created using monero-python - everodd you have used and broadcasted transactions with it on stressnet correct?
16:40:31 <br-m> <everoddandeven> Yes, I have done some transactions on stressnet
16:40:51 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> the .deb package for monero-python under ubuntu has some missing dependencies which you have been fixing ... almost working but not yet (1 hr ago) https://github.com/everoddandeven/monero-python/releases
16:40:54 <br-m> <everoddandeven> Like sending to 15 subaddresses
16:41:17 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Whats your tps look like
16:41:23 <br-m> <everoddandeven> @plowsof:matrix.org: I have fixed that, now v0.0.4 has working deb installer for jammy and noble distro
16:41:28 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> transaction per second 
16:41:51 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> moment
16:42:40 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> ok the deb installed "Setting up python3-monero (0.0.4) ..." 👍️ riiight 
16:42:56 <br-m> <everoddandeven> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: The script is still very basic, and I am waiting for the transactions to be confirmed before sending a new one
16:43:08 <br-m> <everoddandeven> But it can be improved a lot, and I'm working on it
16:43:23 <br-m> <rucknium> Sorry, by the time that the suitability of monero-python for creating a spammer was brought to my attention, http://github.com/Rucknium/xmrspammer was too far along to abandon it.
16:43:40 <br-m> <everoddandeven> @everoddandeven: But wait
16:43:54 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> he is not yet visited the spamming trenches , xmrspammer .... is more of a display that monero-python works Rucknium 
16:44:03 <br-m> <everoddandeven> You can create like 10 wallet and then spam 10 txs
16:44:16 <br-m> <rucknium> Looking forward to seeing how your spammer operates, @everoddandeven:monero.social  . At least, different spammers hit different code paths, so there's a benefit.
16:44:19 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> and the resources used (ideally less than multiple rpc) which i hope to see
16:44:39 <br-m> <everoddandeven> @everoddandeven: each txs can send like to 15 subaddresses for example
16:45:19 <br-m> <everoddandeven> And that's what I have done, I have spammed 4 txs from 4 wallets, each txs was sending to 5 subaddresses for example
16:45:36 <br-m> <rucknium> You could try to do tree expansion like I do, to get more txs waiting to confirm: https://github.com/rucknium/xmrspammer?tab=readme-ov-file#design
16:45:56 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @everoddandeven: Yea, but im spamming using 30 wallets who send to themselves
16:46:28 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> The slowdown is the generation of the txs
16:46:40 <br-m> <everoddandeven> @rucknium: Yes, I was starting doing that, but I have wasted some time fixing things, but I will improve the spammer with tree expansion
16:46:55 <br-m> <everoddandeven> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Yes
16:47:00 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Could be better or worse with curl -> wallet-rpc vs monero python
16:47:08 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> monero-spammer is an 'in good faith' contirbution to prove that monero-python works and is worth maintaining / improving - as per the CCS idea
16:47:21 <br-m> <rucknium> @everoddandeven:monero.social: Let me know if you have any questions about tree expansion, or at least my implementation of it.
16:48:26 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> My spammer doesnt exist on the interwebs, sooo..
16:48:43 <br-m> <everoddandeven> @rucknium: Yes, I will do, becase I have mostly lost in the R syntax 😅
16:49:06 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyway, this is abt monero python, not the spammer per-say
16:50:38 <plowsof> my matrix org account appears to have died for a second there 
16:51:00 <plowsof> moving on?
16:51:37 <plowsof>   c. [v1docq47 - monero konferenco 2025 voice-over and working on xmr.ru](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/607)    
16:51:39 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> AliA has seen ofrns spammer , it is real 
16:51:48 <plowsof> there we go
16:54:11 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> R vs Python fight finally
16:54:17 <plowsof>   d. [Revuo Monero Maintenance (2025 Q4)](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/610)    
16:54:40 <plowsof>   e. [Boog900 full time work on Cuprate (3 months)](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/611)    
16:55:00 <plowsof>   g. [acx part-time work on Monfluo 2025Q4](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/616)    
16:55:08 <br-m> <syntheticbird> lmao
16:55:28 <plowsof> lags
16:55:36 <br-m> <syntheticbird> ah
16:57:16 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> soooo
16:57:59 <plowsof> we can leave it there unless there is some other business to discuss 
16:58:18 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I never comment on skunkwheel, but he seems to have been mis(double)counting some issues. Just a note
16:58:58 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Re boog. Didnt syn threaten to go nuclear if not merged?
16:59:23 <plowsof> rottenwheels latest CCS update https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/593#note_32241 
16:59:35 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> re acx: i wonder if we'll see a pr for monfluo to getmonero soon
17:00:30 <br-m> <r4v3r23> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: ANONERO? or corporate wallets only?
17:00:46 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i didnt mention anoner earlier?
17:00:58 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> an open end
17:01:05 <br-m> <r4v3r23> didnt see just had dinner
17:01:22 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> maybe i didnt send
17:02:01 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> It was something like anonero 1.0 should be rdy, so that another "pure" monero wallet that should be listed
17:02:17 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I waited for acx ccs to some up to mention monfluo
17:02:59 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof: 4 issues: 242-245. 3 more: 245-247. 2 more: 247-248. That totals 9, but theres 242-248 is really 7
17:04:40 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its not the first ccs miscounted like this, so maybe he just cant count. Its not consistent either, so maybe it is an attempt to be slick
17:13:43 <plowsof> An audit shall commence! 
17:26:28 <br-m> <diego:cypherstack.com> Soon. > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Stack doesnt make a monero only wallet, cuz theyre assholes cc @diego:cypherstack.com
17:27:12 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> Ik. Branding is the hard part
17:27:30 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> Like, what do you even call it??
17:28:37 <br-m> <4rkal> Interesting statistic https://x.com/cyphergoatcom/status/1977063392755208482
17:35:18 <plowsof> Duck-duck-gUno wallet
17:35:52 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> That's bcs the crash was orchestrated
17:35:59 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> No real sell pressure 
17:36:10 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> And the buyers were regular people buying the dip
17:36:47 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> Trumps circle probably made a billion plus from this
20:31:54 <br-m> <rottenwheel:unredacted.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/unredacted.org/xObgKyRCwgrtrPaFEETMQzwZ.png (image.png)
20:31:57 <br-m> <rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Nice. ✅️
20:54:39 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: LMAO
20:59:16 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Mr sore knees (rotten) really loves to gossip about me
21:17:59 <br-m> <321bob321> Community announcement ?
21:32:22 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Locker room talk
23:40:14 <br-m> <321bob321> banned the second highest contributor to moneronodo in the last 24months ?
23:40:30 <br-m> <321bob321> https://github.com/MoneroNodo/Nodo/graphs/contributors?from=10%2F7%2F2023