08:54:27 <br-m> <321bob321> We prefer monero only wallet over doge integration
08:59:11 <plowsof> give us xxxx(x) monero or else we dont have liquidity to launch 
08:59:39 <plowsof> lets skip the theatrics and discuss this^ lol
09:00:56 <plowsof> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/619#note_32376 
09:10:19 <br-m> <321bob321> We have moonramp anyways
13:33:47 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof: Nothing to discuss
13:34:37 <plowsof> But they need liquidity to launch :(((
13:38:38 <plowsof> Isnt liquidity provided by users? What would they do with xxxx monero for liquidity? 
13:39:25 <plowsof> Other than offer to sell it , is there some special defi thing they require it for?
13:39:57 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof: Make $ off of it
13:44:08 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> giving money to thorchain is irresponsible 
13:44:16 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> they have what, 200 million in bad debt?
13:44:39 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> their whole protocol will go downhill
13:44:47 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> serai will replace it, its better on all fronts
13:45:51 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> as someone with monero, would you rather provide it for people to swap on thorchain where a percentage of your earnings are taken away to pay for the past recklessness of the protocol or would you just provide it via serai where you get to keep 100%
13:46:20 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> their death spiral was hilariously predictable
13:46:45 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> They prob still make good money w that 5% dev fee
13:46:47 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> "lets build this entire thing on the assumption that our VC dev-fund token will always outperform bitcoin"
13:47:42 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Supposedly 150k/day when rune was $4. Rune is ~1$ now, and i assume volume is greater now
14:14:17 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> i checked thorswaps volume yesterday and damn they fell off
14:14:28 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> from doing 500m a month down to less than retoswap kek
14:15:21 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> So 25mill in fees?
14:16:02 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Or how does this 5% dev fee work
14:37:35 <plowsof> 5% from the 5% goes to devs
14:39:20 <plowsof> Nope im wrong sorry, 5% of all fees* 
14:39:44 <plowsof> https://xcancel.com/THORChain/article/1973855591513698429
14:40:58 <plowsof> Articles dont appear on xcancel , this is the tokenomics as of oct 202t5 https://x.com/THORChain/status/1973855591513698429
14:42:01 <plowsof> Marketing get 5% 💪
14:44:34 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> Isn’t it open source ? Someone will fork it > <@monerobull:matrix.org> their whole protocol will go downhill
14:49:19 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> there already is a fork but the code itself is not that great
14:49:58 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> as an outsider, it makes way more sense to either build directly on, or fork serai
14:50:04 <br-m> <syntheticbird> thorchain value resides in the fact that jp was the only one to have the ball to attempt it at the time
14:50:17 <br-m> <syntheticbird> which as of today means nothing
14:50:19 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> correct, they were the first to do crosschain
15:09:08 <br-m> <sgp_> https://x.com/CBarraford/status/1978781576369492044
15:09:08 <br-m> <sgp_> "Limitations around memo size". They have no idea what they're getting into imo. If they implement XMR, people will lose money
15:12:28 <br-m> <loader009:matrix.org> Can someone give this room a name and upgrade the room version with /upgraderoom ?
15:16:15 <plowsof> loader009 the room appears to have no name for you?
15:27:00 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> @loader009:matrix.org: Leave and re-join