09:19:05 <midipoet> Is anyone able to tl;dr why this might be especially good/bad? Seems relatively sane? https://bitcoinforsignal.org/
09:24:42 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> isnt all the fedimint stuff "trust me bro" tech?
09:26:26 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> "Cashu Mints issue ecash in return for payments on the Bitcoin network. Users deposit Bitcoin to a mint and the mint acts as a trusted custodian for the Bitcoin it receives. Think of it like a community bank, but with strong privacy. Mints allow users to send and receive payments from anyone, anywhere, at any time. Whether its from another Signal contact, or a merchant that accepts Bitcoin." jup
09:27:44 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> crazy how captured bitcoin is
09:28:02 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> that it gets to the point where "never trust, verify" turns into "use the trusted custodian"
09:28:16 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> shows you just how much it has failed at its original goals
09:31:26 <br-m> <rbrunner7> Well, is it Bitcoin's fault if somebody builds something like that "on top of it"? (Indirectly maybe, you could claim that a proper cryptocurrency wouldn't need something on top ...)
09:33:54 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> yes thats my point. monero doesnt need crap like this to work as private e cash
09:37:11 <br-m> <rbrunner7> It doesn't look all like crap to me, as far as I know that "Chaumian e-cash" or whatever, in itself, is sound and interesting. Too bad that if you start with Bitcoin you have to trust some "mint", however.
09:46:53 <midipoet> but if you didn't have the 'fedimint flow' (as i understand it), but wanted integration into Signal, wouldn't it be potentially worse given you'd need to integrate your wallet's private key/spend key into the signal app? with their flow, you are divorcing your bitcoin wallet (and its links) from Signal. 
16:28:30 <br-m> <loader009:matrix.org> fixed, thx > <@ofrnxmr> Leave and re-join
19:16:01 <br-m> <321bob321> Ctrl alt defeat
19:43:35 <br-m> <nymf:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/vFEFIEsPgOuaPlhJwPnnKgZA.xz (mining_algos_npd.tar.xz)
19:43:43 <br-m> <nymf:matrix.org> some fun research on mining pools and stuff
19:50:03 <br-m> <321bob321> Sus
19:50:51 <br-m> <321bob321> So what's the go with revuo
20:43:49 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> crashed out
22:55:31 <br-m> <jeffro256> @monerobull:matrix.org: I think monero.town is down
22:56:00 <br-m> <jeffro256> Ope nevermind it came back. Maybe it restarted?
23:15:06 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> I got a notification that it timed out like 20 minutes ago and then came back up
23:15:15 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> It does that sometimes 
23:15:53 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> Maybe it's out of storage? The new hosting provider sadly doesn't show that on a dashboard so I'd have to ssh in to check