12:22:17 @4rkal:monero.social: hey, moron. I am going to tell you once again, it is in your best interest not to fire back on that Reddit reply. I have more dry powder for you. You've been warned. 12:23:34 First I had to deal with Mr. Abrasive, pay me 1600 XMR to breath and ship a DEX implementation nobody will ever benefit from, then the secretary's blacklist, then the guy who gets the pot taken away from me, replenished and stays in power... 12:24:00 Now it is this nobody that does nothing but copy and paste prior work, both for his bs copy/paste weekly newsletter, and his "business". 12:24:04 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1o8pll6/comment/nlao1m0/?context=3 12:24:39 Last time I say it, hold back on that response like you did in the copy/paste witch hunt. It is in your best interest. 12:24:43 https://redlib.privacyredirect.com/r/Monero/comments/1o8pll6/comment/nlao1m0/?context=3 12:25:12 The ping will let me go off on you, we'll see if you keep fucking around. :) 12:39:11 <4rkal> I was just letting people know about the reason why revuo went self funded, since that was not properly disclosed in the gist. 12:39:55 <4rkal> No hard feelings and please try to relax a bit you’re very intense 12:40:30 <4rkal> Revuo is a good newsletter and your work and dedication to it is admirable 12:54:13 <4rkal> I’m not taking any of this personally. I said my part, so I’ll leave it here. 13:05:26 @4rkal: I don't give two fucks about your kind words. 13:05:35 This is the 2nd time you throw shit at me. 13:05:41 3rd time I won't be holding back. 13:05:49 Have a good weekend, nobody. 13:44:25 @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: when you have a moment could you please read https://libera.chat/policies/ , im not sure if you are aware but as this chat is bridged to libera we have to abide by certain rules outlined in the policies document. your messages here can be seen as threatening and/or harassment thus breaking said policy and the moderation team will have to take action. 13:51:28 @4rkal:monero.social: would you consider a unique URL for twim so its not sharing the same blog page as cyphergoat? 13:53:02 cyphergoat/twim or something? if the newsletter will continue being active it can be discussed for listing on getmonero under newsletters (a unique URL would be a positive) 14:11:36 meeting in 1hrs49min~ https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1286 14:15:20 4rkal doesnt write the "this week in monero" newsletter.. and at least twim is weekly! Revuo hasn't has weekly issues in months and months > <@rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Now it is this nobody that does nothing but copy and paste prior work, both for his bs copy/paste weekly newsletter, and his "business". 14:16:51 So it couldnt possibly be copy/pasting from revuo. If its a ripoff if revuo's format, wouldnt that imply that revuo is a "copy/paste but-not-weekly newsletter" 14:40:58 @4rkal:monero.social the gist hasnt been updated, but it's 7 occurrences. The last ccs delivered 5/12 issues. > <@rottenwheel:unredacted.org> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1o8pll6/comment/nlao1m0/?context=3 14:40:58 * milestone 1 claimed 4/4 issues (242-245), but delivered 2/4 (244-245). The other 2 (242-243) were claimed under the prior ccs. 14:40:58 * milestone 2 claimed 3/4 issues (245-247), but delivered 2/4 (246-247). The first issue (245) was claimed under the prior milestone. 14:40:58 * milestone 3 claimed 2/4 issues (247-248), but delivered 1/4 (248). The first issue (247) was claimed under the prior milestone.[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/sKPAqsIKY2k0Skd4 ] 15:33:10 <4rkal> @plowsof:matrix.org: Will look into it, answer is most probably yes. 16:00:27 meeting time 16:01:13 greetings, hi https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1286 16:01:40 hi 16:01:50 Hello 16:02:24 hello 16:04:55 XMRig gains RISC-V support - sech1 (full credits in PR comment) https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig/pull/3725 ⛏️ improvements can be seen in the linked PR https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig/pull/3724 16:06:04 from 14 H/s to 33 .. to 100~ for the ORANGE PI RV2 16:08:10 to beta test the skywallet (monero LWS wallet) request from sgp with a Play Store account email Skywallet (https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20251024#c601805) , i tried it out briefly earlier, built in tor, connects to any LWS instance.. looks great so far👍️ 16:09:15 @plowsof:matrix.org: Any guide to setup lws instance ? 16:09:43 do you like Docker? xD 16:10:44 @plowsof:matrix.org: sure, i can try on macos 16:10:57 I can definitely use some help for more community lws setup guides. I already made one and probably won't have much time to make others: https://www.privacyguides.org/articles/2025/06/12/monero-server-using-truenas/ 16:11:12 @plowsof:matrix.org: they couldnt find a orignal name ? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sky.wallet.tech 16:11:40 *Skylight Wallet, https://skylight.magicgrants.org/ 16:12:20 much better name, Skylight , sorry 16:12:51 elongated i need to use https://github.com/MAGICGrants/monero-lws-docker myself so ill let you know how it goes later today 16:13:14 @sgp_: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/RqaAxtwZQedUFKFADLFobNLe.png (image.png) 16:13:18 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.magicgrants.skylight 16:13:27 @jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org: You need an invite 16:13:48 @jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org: doesn't seem available in my country 16:14:15 @hbs:matrix.org: also does not work for me 16:14:19 I need to add the email first then it'll work. You all are early, before I've even made an actual announcement for it 16:14:58 I'll add your Google Play email if you DM me, or email me it (justin⊙mo) 16:15:59 The app is in flutter so iOS will work too, shortly after 16:16:45 @plowsof:matrix.org: Use this instead: https://github.com/vtnerd/monero-lws/pkgs/container/monero-lws 16:17:00 Lee now maintains their own 16:17:43 ohh, thanks! 16:18:14 a post quantum monero address: https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lounge/20251022#c601238 16:20:45 thats a CSIDH-512 , 346 char address from https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/151 16:21:07 fits on a QR and could make open alias great again, great again 16:22:55 any other highlights to bring up? https://github.com/P2Pool-Observer/consensus WIP by DataHoarder Monero P2Pool consensus reimplementation 16:23:16 Main URL is https://git.gammaspectra.live/P2Pool/consensus 16:23:22 but this is not WiP it's what runs go-p2pool and observer :) 16:24:17 it also contains many golang utilities to interact with Monero related structures 16:24:47 it can mine, as well, and it was upgraded to support FCMP++ stressnet (this is the WiP part) 16:26:51 something to add under the bare Golang section? @ https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/ 16:27:46 feel free! I even have a monero RPC / ZMQ client within the consensus code, view wallet (for carrot and legacy), proof generation, etc. 16:28:04 for example it gets used on https://blocks.p2pool.observer/ as a general library 16:28:39 will make an issue/pr 👍️ i think we can move onto the ccs ideas, jumping into the most recent one as it has seen the most interaction 16:28:55 e. xmr-support-thorchain (https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/619) 16:30:12 nack. they can fund it, and should do more research into monero current and future multisig etc 16:31:14 they plan to return: " If no financial support is tendered prior to integration, a second funding request will be made for launch liquidity instead." 16:32:12 funding liquidity????? Is that for real? 16:32:15 Yes 16:33:00 A) pay 250k for integration, and we'll provide liquidity 16:33:00 B) pay 250k for liquidity, and we'll do implemtation pro bono 16:33:44 tl: we don't need the $, but we want 250k to trade with 16:33:49 only 250k for liquidity? we want to see numbers here! 16:34:13 10,000 to cover Q1 2026 16:34:29 AFK writing a liquidity proposal for atomic swaps.... 16:35:10 Anyway, i think this is a bit backwards. As a seemingly very profitable service, they should be donating, not taking donations 16:36:13 Especially since an xmr integration should benefit them financially 16:36:45 more info on the dev fee% as of oct 2025 in this tweet https://xcancel.com/THORChain/status/1973855591513698429 16:38:49 75% of all fees go to "Incentive Pendulum Balances Rewards" and i do see an "LP" under there, "Liquidity providers" so .. 🤷 16:40:11 Anyway, i think this is a bit backwards. As a seemingly very profitable service, they should be donating, not taking donations. Especially since an xmr integration should benefit them financially 16:41:53 if i close it after feedback will JP shoot the messenger and throw a tantrum 😬 16:42:05 leave it open 16:42:32 Maybe theyll lower the price to -100xmr as a show of good will 16:43:03 Also, jp not here to defend himself 16:45:05 his twitter handle https://x.com/jpthor 16:46:20 moving on, any other feedback for these prev discussed proposals: 16:46:21 a. MoneroOS Resurrection (https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/596) 16:46:26 (I just caught the reference) > <@plowsof:matrix.org> if i close it after feedback will JP shoot the messenger and throw a tantrum 😬 16:47:25 b. Monero Python Maintenance (https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/598) 16:48:25 everoddandeven made a dockerfile for this proof of concept(that the library works on another machine) but i had dependency issues he was working through https://github.com/everoddandeven/monero-spammer 16:49:08 if the library is proven to actually work by someone or myself, then at least this bounty can be paid out https://bounties.monero.social/posts/171/3-432m-create-python-bindings-for-the-monero-cpp-library and hopefully the ccs merged 16:50:13 c. v1docq47 - monero konferenco 2025 voice-over and working on xmr.ru (https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/607) 16:51:23 i left a comment summarising the last proposal and how it was funded @ https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/607#note_32343 , this looks to not be a blocker but just a note that there is no extra help available if the same happens 16:53:15 d. acx part-time work on Monfluo 2025Q4 (https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/616) 16:53:36 any comments on any proposal mentioned here, feel free to share 16:54:10 I can give further support to you and anyone who wants to verify it works 🙏 > <@plowsof:matrix.org> if the library is proven to actually work by someone or myself, then at least this bounty can be paid out https://bounties.monero.social/posts/171/3-432m-create-python-bindings-for-the-monero-cpp-library and hopefully the ccs merged 16:54:59 recanmann posted a summary of a recent meeting reg a possible Mokerokon location for 2026 https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1284#issuecomment-3446883779 16:56:17 There is a meeting today for that 16:56:52 Oh, it overlapped :D lol 16:57:05 Hello, I just popped in and saw a meeting was occurring 16:57:29 I'd note CSIDH-512 is very unlikely compared to 1024 plowsof 16:58:10 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: And as users could provide that liquidity. they don't need users to surrender that money so they themselves (JP) provide it. 17:03:43 ah i see, looking at the table(s) (https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/151) , CSIDH-1024 is an extra 103 chars, with barely any tx size difference for an attack time of 4×10^7 years as opposed to 512's 9000 years kayabanerve 17:05:36 wallet scan time :( 17:07:36 thanks all for joining, an open end 17:07:57 #monerokon:matrix.org 17:10:45 how did i miss that > <@plowsof:matrix.org> ah i see, looking at the table(s) (https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/151) , CSIDH-1024 is an extra 103 chars, with barely any tx size difference for an attack time of 4×10^7 years as opposed to 512's 9000 years kayabanerve 17:10:57 tevador cooking hard 17:11:00 lets go 17:14:05 the newsletters will continue to increase in numbers until we know everything and morale improves 17:14:58 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: yep in #monerokon:matrix.org 17:23:39 18:28:39 will make an issue/pr 👍 17:23:39 also, as a note I do pass all the monero crypto tests from https://raw.githubusercontent.com/monero-project/monero/refs/heads/master/tests/crypto/tests.txt, except the three ones about create/check ring signatures which are skipped (I don't handle ring signatures) 17:25:49 hi guys 17:25:58 I'm creating a Monero Journal 17:53:11 @xmrtimes:matrix.org: ngl we have plenty of reputable news source, but hey why not a new one. 17:53:45 @syntheticbird: No we dont 17:53:50 Theres a civil war going on 17:53:57 @ofrnxmr: monero.observer? 17:54:00 @ofrnxmr: LMFAO 17:54:26 @syntheticbird: Didnt you see above? cyphergoat's TWIM has been officially warned 17:54:37 no i didn't 17:54:53 That's 2 strikes. One more and revuo uses the samson option 17:55:08 https://matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:matrix.org/$Oe7Jnux7kHa4PMWoun8UsxUhQ_44ZuB3T0lhY8mF57o?via=cypherstack.com&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social 17:55:36 ^ > <@rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Now it is this nobody that does nothing but copy and paste prior work, both for his bs copy/paste weekly newsletter, and his "business". 17:55:55 ^ > <@rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Last time I say it, hold back on that response like you did in the copy/paste witch hunt. It is in your best interest. 18:46:59 Is journal... a news source? > <@syntheticbird> ngl we have plenty of reputable news source, but hey why not a new one. 18:47:08 Maybe in French it might be... 😳 18:47:34 @xmrtimes:matrix.org: Pardon him, he's a bit... special, for lack of a better word. Were you saying, lad? What is this journal thing about? Do share. 18:48:20 Gottem. https://github.com/xmrtimes 18:48:29 https://xmrtimes.github.io/ 18:48:47 Oh, what a disappointment, it is indeed, yet another XMR news site! 18:49:00 Welcome aboard!!! 🥳 18:51:07 YES > <@rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Maybe in French it might be... 😳 18:51:09 GOOD JOB 18:51:16 YOU HAVE SUCCESSFULLY DOXXED ME 18:51:40 @syntheticbird: It's not like you call me rouuaiuasdipourriette every Sunday out here... 18:52:49 Even simple low-effort news aggregation is helpful, but it would be nice if TWIM put in enough effort to catch when the MiningPoolStats piechart is clearly broken: https://cyphergoat.com/blog/twim-6 18:53:21 Ahem: https://cyphergoat.com/blog/twim-6#hashrate-distribution 18:53:49 sgp_ how many subaddresses does skylight wallet attempt to generate from monero-lws? for now i just enabled some high limit to stop the warning about exceeding the max 18:54:36 It looks for the first unused from account 0 18:58:47 ah ok, i must not have set the max subaddresses command, i managed to start a monero-lws instance without needing to read too many docs, but without httpS support and open registration. skylight wallet connects fine, ill try to send/receive some 18:59:08 how is the monero-lws admin panel scene? im only aware of https://github.com/CryptoGrampy/monero-lws-admin 18:59:20 but npm is scary 19:03:53 I personally don't use the admin API at all 19:04:34 @elongated:matrix.org @parasew:matrix.org @rbrunner7:monero.social https://github.com/MAGICGrants/skylight-wallet 19:04:53 for testing im using docker run --name monero-lws --network host ghcr.io/vtnerd/monero-lws:latest --daemon=tcp://127.0.0.1:18082 --sub=tcp://127.0.0.1:18084 --rest-server http://0.0.0.0:8443 --confirm-external-bind --auto-accept-creation --max-subaddresses 20000 19:05:16 with port 8443 open 19:06:05 this is why TLS verification doesn't currently work btw https://github.com/MAGICGrants/skylight-wallet/issues/6 19:07:34 i promised elongated i would set it up, so i have a slight headache because i had to read "--help" a few times :D 19:17:36 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/TdufzfWAFjfZVYhADfiyWFOF.jpg (1000010543.jpg) 19:18:00 Walla try my onion? 19:18:15 sgp_ seems to be working, didnt get a notification though (iirc i did allow the popup, but so far working) 19:28:01 I'm not 100% confident the notifications work correctly 19:30:49 Is there a community LWS matrix channel? Maybe it's time for one 19:41:55 @sgp_: No 20:10:54 sgp is there a community LWS IRC channel? 20:43:41 Maybe? No idea 20:43:53 No 20:57:47 sgp I was hinting that if a room is set up then don't forget IRC :) 21:04:08 never 22:36:39 <321bob321> https://www.digilol.net/case-studies/stackwallet 22:36:39 <321bob321> i assume this was fixed ?