16:53:39 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> Hi everyone 👋
16:53:39 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> I’ve released an Android Monero wallet app focused on privacy, simplicity, and real-world usability, built with the Monero ethos in mind.
16:53:39 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> 📱 Google Play:[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/1d21_9UKM2p5OGRY ]
16:54:52 <br-m> <syntheticbird> @niyid:matrix.org: At the risk of breaking your hopes, you can be sure that no one here is gonna attempt installing a private application made by a random guy
16:55:01 <br-m> <syntheticbird> source code is bare minimum
16:58:58 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> https://github.com/niyid/apo
17:07:17 <br-m> <syntheticbird> thx
17:07:25 <br-m> <syntheticbird> huh
17:07:27 <br-m> <syntheticbird> 404
17:07:55 <br-m> <syntheticbird> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/NfXIgGttIYNrLVBFfXEdHCtD.png (image.png)
17:08:52 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> Oh private I guess 
17:10:01 <DataHoarder> https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-receives-historic-private-donations
17:10:44 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: Apologies. Try again
17:12:21 <br-m> <syntheticbird> DataHoarder: Can they let the fsf die already
17:15:03 <nioc> The connection was refused when attempting to contact www.fsf.org.
17:16:20 <DataHoarder> it's probably IPv6 :')
17:19:26 <br-m> <syntheticbird> IPv6 is a backdoor
18:05:24 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @niyid:matrix.org: https://github.com/niyid/apo/commit/d3ada792a00294c97bcdcda8586a75f7faff5e3a
18:05:24 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> beautiful 40k lines of unreviewable code
18:07:01 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Looks to be a monerujo fork of some sort
18:10:02 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Brought to you by claude
18:10:31 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Thanks. Yes it used an improved xmrwallet library build.
18:14:34 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/compare/master...niyid:xmrwallet:master
18:18:39 <plowsof> ofrnxmr Good catch! Would you like me to add monerujo as a submodule and build upon it?
18:19:18 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> no. Just make a 40k line initial commit then let claude go to town
18:19:30 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Make sure to commit the instructions as well
18:19:55 <plowsof> Wow, i like your direct - to the point approach! 
18:20:07 <plowsof> Bdhxhdhsjxhdjdbdhdjddhdjn
18:20:45 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> 😁
18:22:23 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> It was a POC to demonstrate that AI actually develops more robust code than human developers. Apologies if this touches the ego.
18:23:43 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> It's christmas, not halloween or april fools
18:24:24 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> 😁
18:24:35 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Last i checked, a lot of this code was written by humans ~8 years ago
18:25:43 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Adding slop on top of hard work != more robust. Its just adding slop on top of hard work
18:26:34 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Were some improvements made? Perhaps. It is reviewable? Barely, which tells me that you havent reviewed it either
18:27:04 <plowsof> Contemplating response  🧠 .... Please upgrade to premium if you want more fixes. Would you like me to type out a reddit post and marketing strategy instead?
18:27:16 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> Yes. Foundation is always needed. It fixed a lot of memory leaks. That was the weakest part. Lots and lots of memory leaks.
18:27:36 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> So how can it be more robust, if its indecipherable? By trusting and assuming that no mistakes were made? Just because claude was prompted not to upload wallet files?
18:28:00 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @niyid:matrix.org: I dont recall ever seeing a memory leak in monerujo or monfluo, period
18:28:12 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Sounds like hallucinated memory leaks
18:28:40 <plowsof> Claude did you lie or embelish any of the memory leaks you fixed?  Yes! You're absolutely correct
18:29:20 <plowsof> Sorry, would you like me to re add the memory leaks i never fixed and rewrite monero c in rust?
18:30:24 <br-m> <rbrunner7> Does that m2049r library diff really show tons and tons of generated build related files as part of the "source" in GitHub?
18:30:49 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I don't see any commits regarding memory leaks either (?)
18:32:34 <br-m> <datahoarder> @niyid:matrix.org: https://stopslopware.net/
18:32:39 <br-m> <datahoarder> Specially in the context of Monero
18:32:53 <br-m> <datahoarder> It gets cryptography really bad and will 100% end up in losing all funds
18:33:19 <br-m> <datahoarder> Cryptography is not "glue code" that an autocomplete would get most of the time
18:34:24 <br-m> <datahoarder> It's less ego, instead it's reckless to attempt for this. Let it have a go at the UI so the worst that can happen is users end up with 5fps blob
18:34:30 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/pull/1013#issuecomment-3660135382
18:35:19 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> LMFAO
18:35:21 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> wtf kinda pr is this
18:35:23 <plowsof> Sorry if that touches your ego, lies and bad crypto are of no issue if it builds /s
18:35:44 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 970 commits squashes into 1 💀💀💀💀
18:36:25 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 970 commits 😂 to fkn change a dependcy?
18:37:04 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> "based on ndk29 and boose 1.81 = 970 commits ans 24k lines of code"
18:38:47 <br-m> <rbrunner7> I blame "AI" and the companies that build "AI" that give people the impression that it enables them to build something like a Monero wallet. It's terrible, and cruel, like we can see here live, in Panavision and Technicolor.
18:39:05 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/nvpnDFHpvXawOxFIWsHevQBN.png (share_1278434191811564718.png)
18:39:52 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You dont even look at the fkn slop, but expect other people to?
18:40:35 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> This is literally in the 2nd file listed
18:40:44 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> Oh, that was an unnecessary doc that I generated with a script myself. Easily deleted file. 😄
18:41:02 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 2nd out of 139
18:42:04 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> That was generated by a Python script which I ran by hand. Totally irrelevant file.
18:42:20 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> So why is it there
18:42:59 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> The pr is to "use ndk29 and boost 1.81" yet there are 139 filed ans 24k lines of code ?
18:45:25 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyway, merry christmas
18:47:05 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> 🤣
18:49:04 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> I'm trying not to laugh, bcuz its christmas and laughing would be rude
18:49:41 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Care to explain this?
18:50:19 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> Or is this just a consequence of sending a pr from your master branch, and fkn up the history?
19:35:21 <br-m> <4rkal> https://cyphergoat.com/this-week-in-monero/issue-16
19:35:57 <br-m> <4rkal> Merry Christmas from CypherGoat, wishing everyone good health and warm moments with the people you care about. Take care of yourselves and each other!
21:10:30 <n1oc> [CCS Proposals] acx acx opened merge request #635: acx part-time work on Monfluo 2026Q1 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/635
23:00:17 <br-m> <0xfffc> Has anyone seen Luigi recently?
23:01:15 <plowsof> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/tree/master
23:02:52 <br-m> <0xfffc> Ah, great 17 hours ago he was active. IRC shows he was not active past few days. IRC misled me :)
23:02:58 <br-m> <0xfffc> Thanks plow