10:22:02 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> plowsof:  to be clear, in your comment on “coordination tasks which have been omitted”.. does this mean you will no longer be hosing community meetings or dealing with the CCS process?
10:23:50 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> It appears you are suggesting moving form the CCS coordinator to a more more general helper of miscellaneous tasks
10:38:57 <n1oc> [CCS Proposals] plowsoff closed merge request #638: CipherNerd-educational-articles-highlighting-real-world-uses https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/638
10:39:13 <n1oc> [CCS Proposals] plowsoff closed merge request #639: Monero News App and Monero Magazine: Build a Community Media Platform for Monero https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/639
10:57:01 <n1oc> [CCS Proposals] plowsoff closed merge request #636: Open-source Monero browser extension wallet https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/636
11:15:52 <xmr-pr> [meta] plowsof opened issue #1356: Monero Community Workgroup Meeting: TBD
11:15:53 <xmr-pr> > https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1356
11:56:12 <plowsof> my reliability for chairing the meetings is not adequate enough anymore to claim that role sgp_ ajs_, i would still be involved in the CCS process but more directly with the in-progress list, and this hasn't been what the majority of my time is spent on to call myself the "CCS coordinator"
12:30:52 <xmr-pr> [meta] rbrunner7 opened issue #1357: Monero Tech Meeting #162 - Monday, 2026-03-23, 18:00 UTC
12:30:53 <xmr-pr> > https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1357
16:18:26 <br-m> <pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> plowsof: I believe you ought to find a suitable replacement prior to making this decision.
16:49:24 <br-m> <syntheticbird> I disagree. this falls upon core to decide of a new ccs coordinator if anything. People can of course propose themselves and see how it goes.
17:09:36 <br-m> <sgp_> Yeah this is on core to handle if they want feedback meetings
17:09:54 <nioc> I propose syntheticbird
17:11:55 <br-m> <sgp_> I propose thankful for today
17:41:07 <br-m> <hbs:matrix.org> @sgp_: what is he up to these days?
17:51:43 <geonic> that description is too wishy-washy for my taste. this was one of the problems with diego's role and it would be an issue here as well.
17:52:34 <geonic> ccs coordinator 👍 general help to the project 👎
17:54:00 <geonic> e.g. running seed nodes is not a paid position
18:27:23 <geonic> fwiw I disagree that core needs to be involved in picking a CCS coordinator, since the first C stands for Community, not Core :p
18:55:51 <plowsof> geonic the info in the who section: the wording is not intended to be 'i want your moneys to type ./monerod' - just seems relevant to mention/highlight - that i choose to rent servers and put community/project infra on them, since years, and that im seemingly trustable enough to do so, with funds given to me from donors to my ccs', and genuinely
18:55:51 <plowsof> care that they're online
19:16:14 <plowsof> do note that there are many contributors, who have sunk more of their own time, larger brain power into doing things for us totally unfunded for longer than ive been around, i wouldnt even dream of bringing the above up to people in here as though it where some trophy worthy achievement lol
19:18:14 <plowsof> letting the dev/research groups be self governing in terms of getting proposals into a state ready for funding, or, allocating funding to tasks (e.g. fcmp++ research/dev proposals) has relieved a large chunk of the coordinator roles work, to where i may only have to ask someone to end a file with a new line 
19:27:44 <plowsof> those who fall outside of these groups (myself included) require feedback , which is sometimes hard to obtain, da rule book of the ccs just says goodluck/have fun "Do not expect others (especially the Core Team or other trusted members of the community) to do it for you. Others may share and support if they are excited about your project, but
19:27:44 <plowsof> ultimately it is nobody's responsibility but your own.", so the biweekly community meetings are still a life savour. 
19:29:17 <plowsof> i forgot the point i wanted to make and im doing the media training thing of ignoring the question and answering one ive asked myself then saying 'any more points to address?' as though your concern was handled by a wall of text 
19:46:51 <br-m> <321bob321> Politian
20:29:58 <br-m> <321bob321> Also core never decided on plowsof to be a co ordinator, they were conscripted by community.
20:30:41 <br-m> <321bob321> But previously before conscription it was a love job
20:51:49 <br-m> <syntheticbird> Maybe this situation is an opportunity for the community to "choose" a GROUP of coordinators. Instead of a single individual. I know some people here that are very well served in CCS lore but are very opinionated, so having like 3 people doing the work can help on the burden and make judgement safer.
20:53:06 <br-m> <321bob321> Community votes, you just need a stick to make sure people are doing the tasks
20:53:43 <br-m> <syntheticbird> in what im saying, 3 people would be the stick instead of one
20:54:23 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> And it could still make judgement safer, as multiple people have to come to an agreement on what should be approved/rejected in the first place
20:54:25 <br-m> <syntheticbird> also community votes are too vague. Everyone knows the rough consensus in meeting is based on weighted votes from known members
20:54:39 <br-m> <321bob321> People don't agree here
20:54:52 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @jpk68:matrix.org: This is already the case
20:54:56 <br-m> <syntheticbird> like there has always been a community vote so far
20:55:09 <br-m> <syntheticbird> and plowsof have been doing a good job at identifying consensus state
20:55:11 <br-m> <syntheticbird> I'm gonna kill myself monero.social is lagging
20:55:20 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Plowsof never had unilateral control over what gets approved or rejected 
20:55:25 <br-m> <321bob321> Matrix.moment
20:56:39 <br-m> <321bob321> Scream at plowsof, plowsof do
20:56:40 <br-m> <syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Sure. There is the core veto
20:56:59 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> He doesnt merge proposals, he just relays the consensus to luigi
20:57:07 <br-m> <321bob321> Server on a go slow
20:57:26 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: True, but I mean I agree with what SyntheticBird said
20:58:26 <br-m> <syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Yes. But unless luigi has some veto to make, most of the CCS are based on the consensus gathered by plowsof. Which i'm not criticizing in any way, he has been doing a super job at that. But finding another plowsof is gonna be difficult I think, so having 3 different people doing the "what is the consensus in meeting" part might alleviate issues from one person.
20:58:37 <br-m> <syntheticbird> that is simply the poin i'm trying to make.
20:59:12 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> With plowsof's changes, there would implicitly be at least 2 coordinatoes moving fwd
21:00:49 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Because he still has his roles of coordinating gitlab (nohody else has those ops) and liasing with core 
21:02:22 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I've personally thrown my name in the hat to assist multiple times and either fallen on deaf ears or was NACKd, so shrug. Currently the team is supposed to be diego & plowsof
21:03:44 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> + luigi ofc
23:27:07 <plowsof> thinking more about consensus: i could re-add "- Gather consensus for CCS proposals. (feedback from GitLab/IRC/Reddit)." or , reword to 'relay consensus from community to core for them to decide'. im still in all those places pulsing. if the title of "general helper-ish" is a concern of lowering the bar of those applying for community funds, or a
23:27:07 <plowsof> slap in the face of those who help the project more, i understand, i just dont feel like the majority of my time now is actual CCS coordination, or, it ends up being beneficial to do the bare minimum in some areas so i have more time to contribute elsewhere, i'm also severely lacking in some aspects, e.g. not actively seeking new talent to bring
23:27:07 <plowsof> into the project: i have sought funding for some contributors not on the ccs to help/keep them around though - meeting agendas late, 2 weeks pass by in what feels like a few days being occupied with other things, and calling everyone ai sloppers? come on meow fire me from something please 😭
23:30:43 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You dont get paid to call ppl ai sloppers
23:31:12 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats just the plowsof the community member 
23:33:00 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Being ccs coodinator doesnt stop you from having a vote or an opinion