02:29:57 you can buy those > <@jpk68:matrix.org> Requiring phone number verification to contribute to an anonymity-focused project is perhaps not very ideal 02:30:01 and i never been asked for that 02:30:39 GitHub requires a phone number before contacting support now 02:30:56 i have like 6 github account half created on vpn never dropping vpn and it has never asked me for a phone number 02:31:04 my guess is ungoogled chromium is doing it 02:31:09 i used both chrome and firefox 02:31:14 Tried on other ones, too 02:31:19 and they won't respond to my emails 02:31:36 Did you make the GH accounts recently? As in, less than a year ago? 02:31:44 one yes 02:31:45 rest older than 1y 02:32:09 the new one is 3 mo old 02:32:12 no problems yet 02:32:22 Maybe I'm just unlucky then :P 02:32:30 are you using resi proxies 02:32:32 it might be flagged 02:32:41 Nope 02:32:55 i have no idea why you are having issues then 02:33:14 all i can think of is ungoogled chromium 02:33:27 Because Microsoft is stupid 02:33:29 I appreciate your help though :) 02:33:35 what happens if you buy a phone verification 02:34:02 But this is what I'm trying to say about GitHub - it's not a good situation, especially for a project like this one 02:34:41 @kiersten5821:matrix.org: It works fine. They just respond with the exact same templated email, exactly three hours after I open a support ticket 02:34:51 @jpk68:matrix.org: agree, i saw jackie's backup didn't have any of the pr or issues ported either 02:34:52 It's been like a month at this point and I can't talk to an actual human 04:23:23 When will Monroe join the fight against quantum computer algorithms? 04:24:43 🤔 06:52:28 Who or what is Monroe? 06:53:58 @rbrunner7: Brother of moonro 06:56:04 https://github.com/jeffro256/carrot/blob/master/carrot.md#211-address-conditional-forward-secrecy 06:56:13 https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/151 08:19:57 [CCS Proposals] plowsoff opened merge request #659: dangerousfreedom: repurpose 26.25 xmr https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/659 08:30:38 [css-proposals] plowsofff opened pull request #659: dangerousfreedom: repurpose 26.25 xmr 08:30:39 > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/659 08:31:31 xmr-pr broke a pinky promise? :-O 09:48:55 Jackie's Repo (https://repo.openenet.cn/) is deployed on an LCPI-H616 development board, with 512MB of RAM (excluding ZRAM and swap), a MariaDB database, and 64GB of reliable storage. Nginx is adopted for reverse proxy, and public network access is achieved through Cloudflare Tunnel. Tor deployment is planned for the follow-up [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/5cr5k_QKX2N1Z281 ] 09:50:43 Within the monero-project backup scope, only the code repositories are preserved (issues and pull requests are excluded), while CI/CD pipelines and user registration functionality are disabled. 09:52:09 Issues and pull requests (PRs) can be converted into logs via GitHub Actions and stored under the meta directory; these logs will be synchronized automatically when the meta directory is synced. 09:54:16 plowsof User registration will be disabled in approximately 72 hours (10:00 UTC, April 1, 2026). Relevant personnel are requested to complete registration as soon as possible, as it may be required for subsequent use. 09:55:59 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/neLqvMJOUDVUfojIWBpSEcwK.png (image.png) 09:56:09 oh hell yeah long live china gfw 09:56:54 (that sounds like a critics, its not, im just joking. dont mind me) 09:57:23 @syntheticbird: sorry, I will add proxy after 3 days 10:13:42 https://repo.openenet.cn/monero-project 10:19:02 Hello guys, I hope this is the right channel to raise a question. I’m wondering how I would be able to integrate Monero into buying at shops locally. Since it takes up to 2 minutes to verify a payment. I’ve figured that most people use the 0 verification method, where the backend will track in incoming payment, which then [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/p-XnlPQKSmh0ZFpJ ] 10:57:56 <321bob321> @rbrunner7: https://monroe.com.au/ 13:31:41 @mrsamsepiol:matrix.org: go to https://matrix.to/#/#monero-support:monero.social ? 13:58:46 #monero-community-dev:monero.social ** 14:00:04 well, depends on the question. If its "how to accept monero at my shop" then#monero:monero.social . If its "need help to develop this program" then #monero-community-dev:monero.social 14:01:07 Just use Merchant Mode™ in the GUI 14:02:27 Or bitcoin.com's merchant thing, or bitrequest.io, or btcpayserver, or bitcart.ai 14:34:25 <0xdosto:matrix.org> well, hello beautiful. I am investigating stressnet + FCMP++ integration work. Where can look at the open tasks? (To submit CCS eventually) 14:45:04 hello fyodor, how is your investigation going so far? 15:17:13 re:User registration will be disabled in approximately 72 hours (10:00 UTC, April 1, 2026). Relevant personnel are requested to complete registration as soon as possible, as it may be required for subsequent use. 15:23:30 @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: It looks like the ccs-proposals mirror is currently failing 15:24:14 @jpk68:matrix.org: yeah,proxy can;t use 15:25:47 Why? 15:26:22 emm,server in china 15:26:27 can't connect repo.getmonero.org 15:26:36 I try to use wg 15:27:04 i dont think repo.getmonero is blocking, its probably the great firewall? 15:27:05 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.org/7f6d03f46f835cacd03c2afbc26d11184a1185712038276760222564352.png (image.png) 15:27:20 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: yeah,and isp 15:28:02 What does that have to do with a proxy? 15:28:27 Also, it seems the CCS frontend/backend repos synced just fine 15:28:58 tor,cf,are very slow or can't use in china 15:29:27 @0xdosto:matrix.org: would be wise to join #monero-stressnet:monero.social (if not already https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/issues ) and check no wallet left behind / monero research lab meetings 👍️ 15:30:00 And why would u host this from home instead of on an accesible vps 15:30:05 I run a server in usa make a vpn 15:30:26 And why would u host this from home instead of on an accesible vps 15:30:35 Don't you think VPS is easily attacked 15:33:54 Better if my vps gets attacked than if my home internet does 15:44:08 vps aren't free 15:44:42 * he said he is using cloudflare for front-facing 15:48:17 @syntheticbird: They are if they are a gift 🧠 15:50:28 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I'm sorry to say it to you like this, clearing up a misconception from a year ago, the librejovps wasn't sponsored. 15:50:47 by kyun.host. 16:10:55 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: but I buy vps to make vpn 16:11:22 I can't trust VPS providers 16:12:54 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: china isp are not give us ip,they use nat 16:14:36 I use 4usd to by a usa vps > <@syntheticbird> vps aren't free 16:19:34 @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: 2h2g 50Mbps 16:51:54 [CCS Proposals] Mondetta opened merge request #660: monero.eco 2025-2026 compensation https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/660 17:00:38 [css-proposals] mondetta opened pull request #660: monero.eco 2025-2026 compensation 17:00:39 > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/660 17:02:30 6tpr5ewpc4kevnm76i2bzxori3ofi46phqghkb5736r5wb7gq47yh3yd.onion 17:07:57 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.org/bd1be883a38a504e99ed7c68f7a1c0fb99b8448a2038301991800668160.png (image.png) 17:07:58 tor is ok now 17:14:22 <0xdosto:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: Slow, but steady! 17:16:36 <0xdosto:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: Thanks. Checking/joining now 17:45:38 [meta] PyXMR2025 opened issue #1362: Monero Repository Mirror Public Notice 17:45:39 > https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1362 18:05:47 @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org any reason for using gitea instead of forgejo? 18:08:25 Forgejo good 18:09:49 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: no 18:10:52 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: will change to Forgejo 18:13:05 Is the matter of having core-run mirrors something we could/should bring up at a research meeting? 18:13:07 @syntheticbird:monero.social ^ 18:14:12 @jpk68:matrix.org: core? 18:14:49 The core team, yes 18:15:05 Are they run mirrors? 18:15:16 @jpk68:matrix.org: idk, you can ask rucknium to add this topic in the meta issue for the next MRL meeting 18:15:21 If someone else is running the mirrors they wouldn't really be considered 'official', would they 18:15:23 ask on github 18:15:32 No 18:15:59 Sure, will do. I can't ask on GH ;) 18:16:19 Is this something you would be willing to advocate for? Just wondering, since you seemed to be in support of it 18:16:35 emm.look "Community" > <@jpk68:matrix.org> If someone else is running the mirrors they wouldn't really be considered 'official', would they 18:17:17 Yes, but my point is that it would be useful to have official mirrors for submitting PRs 18:17:27 Backups are nice to have, but it's not like they're an actual development space 18:17:37 @jpk68:matrix.org: The core team would never run something like this. Just look at what's on GitLab—do they have any official mirrors? 18:18:39 Dude, my whole point is asking them if they would be willing to do so. No, there aren't mirrors at the moment 18:18:51 If they did, why would I be asking? :) 18:19:22 Also, we are already covered in terms of backups. According to selsta, core already uses backup solutions and whatnot from some company 18:20:10 @jpk68:matrix.org: uh.ok, you can @ selsta or luigi on irc 18:20:24 remember the mirroring thing that used githubs bandwidth quote in a day because the now privated archive was being mirrored by something yeah 18:20:35 quota* 18:20:52 https://github.com/monero-project/monero-downloads 18:21:28 another place for submitting PRs isn't ideal, it does not have our CI suite there and discussion would be split between platforms 18:21:38 but I also see your issue with account getting deleted 18:22:14 Yes, and I am not the only one :) 18:22:30 plowsof: Sure, which tool was it? 18:23:03 Clearly it would require a huge amount of time/effort, but would it not be worth looking into moving to self-hosted eventually? 18:23:15 Tor project was forced to do that, and it has apparently worked decently well 18:23:28 I'm not suggesting that this happens now, of course. Just something to consider perhaps 18:24:05 ah i think LFS is unrelated, but it was here https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-dev/20260303#c659327 18:26:04 i self host a gitlab runner that checks if people didnt end a file wiht a new line on the ccs repo if that inspires anyone 18:26:20 plowsof: yeah,3/day-->1-2GB/1 18:27:07 plowsof: A bold leap towards the paragon of freedom that is not being forced to deal with Microslop 18:27:43 Hopefully we can migrate the "official" repo to codeberg.org or somewhere esle with more privacy and less censorship > <@jpk68:matrix.org> If someone else is running the mirrors they wouldn't really be considered 'official', would they 18:27:44 plowsof: https://github.com/monero-project/guix how big 18:28:37 @user2570:unredacted.org: Self-hosted would be better, but even that would be an improvement 18:28:39 i also tried mirroring the dependencies repos but gave up at boost (iirc) 18:29:10 IIRC, Wownero moved to GitLab a while ago, and a bunch of Monero people already have accounts on Codeberg 18:29:14 memory blurry but i had gitea has an auto mirror thing which didnt like chains of submodules 18:29:36 *Codeberg, not GitLab 18:31:05 jackie i dont know about the guix repo sorry 18:31:30 plowsow did I do something wrong that could cause this parser pipeline to fail? 18:31:30 https://repo.getmonero.org/mondetta/ccs-proposals/-/pipelines/1211 18:31:39 plowsof: don't worry. need I backup this? 18:32:34 we already tried to move to gitlab back when microsoft bought github 18:32:47 the overall experience was worse and we decided against it 18:33:09 i run it manually because its sus letting the world run things on my home machine :D 18:33:24 selsta but what about forgejo 18:33:25 selsta: yeah.too big.and ci need dev 18:33:31 i'm sure this will be different this time 18:33:35 right? 18:33:39 selsta: Perhaps Forgejo is worth a shot? 18:33:49 Validation error: File must end with a newline character 18:33:56 https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/236 18:34:09 incredible title lmfao 18:34:12 I don't really see anyone disagreeing with this in principle, just that it would take a fair bit of time/effort 18:34:34 plowsof: and me? 18:34:50 letting the internet run code on machines you are responsible + pay for is quite the ask 18:34:59 reg self hosted runners 18:35:34 selsta: Discussion looks very active :) 18:35:45 two 8 cores 32GB dedicated servers are pocket money for the GF without wanting to sound like money shouldn't be accounted responsibly 18:36:14 plowsof: what's the correct way to fix the proposal? 18:36:39 Didn't binaryFate mention that we already pay for increased GH bandwidth 18:36:41 The other users triggering the CI tho, yes thats a concern 18:36:54 we run ubuntu 16.04 here, im certain if we had self hosted runners people would do evil things to us 18:37:11 incredible maintenance 18:37:41 with no updates like this maybe we deserve it 18:38:01 Why doesn't anyone just ban the spammers in the GitLab issues 18:38:11 dockerised so you just turn it on and off again until the hacker gets bored i think 18:38:34 @jpk68:matrix.org: gitlab has millions of accounts, many every second 18:38:35 GitHub CI is the main blocker for moving to something like Forgejo 18:39:12 @plowsof:matrix.org: Approved signup like the GitLab has currently? 18:39:13 i try to clean things up https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/issues 18:39:55 IF the email gets to you then you self approve otherwise its manual, so we shuld move to manual approval flat out tbh, so many spam accounts 18:40:12 selsta: yeah. 18:40:17 there are currently 5,073,500 users on the gitlab 18:40:46 I'm sorry, i'm half of the users 18:40:57 i just woke up and decided to register 2.5 million time 18:40:59 @syntheticbird: me too 18:41:00 @rucknium:monero.social Would you be willing to add this to the meeting agenda? 18:41:06 a warm welcome to our newest user https://repo.getmonero.org/bigbamboo 18:41:12 Wrong channel, yikes :( 18:41:16 LMAO 18:42:07 well at least its a game. Some bot made a repo on librejo to store cheese pizza. 18:42:08 i _think_ its a search engine optimisation trick - as your url appears linked by getmonero 18:42:09 happened only once fortunately 18:42:37 in the past core maintained buildbot but that was a bit of a disaster, with build failing constantly and no quick way to fix 18:43:16 Can you please help me to fix the issue? > Validation error: File must end with a newline character 18:43:16 Should I edit the file and create a new merge request? 18:43:16 Or is there a easier way? 18:43:40 CI/CD have progressed considerably in 6 years. Gitea/Forgejo actions have become a suitable replacement for Github CI nowadays. 18:44:40 selsta: Do you think you/others would be willing to look into this? Just asking :) 18:44:54 I think it would be worthwhile 18:45:35 linux CI would work, macOS / Windows runners would be more difficult 18:45:37 For me the primary question is, if someone or some people, are willing to setup a full ass Forgejo/CI setup, would core be willin to migrate development to it. 18:45:50 with how inactive core is I don't think it's realistic 18:45:59 afaik people have had success with projects like docker-windows and docker-macos 18:46:20 ARM CI however? 18:46:33 we are also getting hammered with Hackerone reports thanks to AI so I don't have time to even think about moving away from GitHub 18:46:35 i don't think we will see an arm macOS CI anytime soon 18:46:45 fair 18:46:54 can you share some slop you receive 18:47:08 it has gotten better recently sadly 18:47:18 so you can't even quickly detect if it's slop or not 18:47:47 the imitation game 18:49:07 for mac os we can just get plowsof to buy one and leave his machine on 24/7 18:49:51 Buy a MacBook Neo for $600 18:50:02 Buy an iphone farm 18:51:05 @syntheticbird: One of these things? > https://www.cnn.com/style/vietnam-farms-jack-latham-beggars-honey 18:51:26 yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 18:51:30 that's the one 18:51:36 You can mine on them when they're not running actions :) 18:52:30 selsta: RIP 18:52:59 i doubt anyone would be willing to let me mine on hardware i'd purchased with the CCS while not in use https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/gingeropolous_zenith_storage.html XD 18:53:04 Datahoarder. Can irc users sees answer with the new bridge? 18:53:22 it does a short quote where possible, yes 18:53:28 or ping if recent enough 18:53:39 i see thx 18:53:53 if the server is IRCv3 compliant with message tags it makes an actual reply 18:54:03 if not (like libera) it does the short quotes 18:58:00 No > <@pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> don't worry. need I backup this? 19:01:09 what is guix 19:01:40 Package manager 19:03:07 20:53:04 Datahoarder. Can irc users sees answer with the new bridge? 19:03:07 ^ I just got this push notification, thanks matrix for delays 19:03:43 see an example reply https://irc.gammaspectra.live/7b2d09cc225ff1bd/image.png 19:03:58 DataHoarder: https://libera.chat/news/new-and-upcoming-features-3 19:04:20