09:00:26 https://github.com/PyXMR2025/monero-community-archive/tree/meta 09:00:41 You see, PR/issues are in there! 09:26:35 [CCS Proposals] SNeedlewoods opened merge request #664: SNeedlewoods-04_part-time-dev-Q2-26 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/664 15:03:57 [CCS Proposals] Lee Clagett opened merge request #665: Mark vtnerd 20225 Q4 Part 3 Completed https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/665 15:05:33 Is there a previsional agenda for that meeting? > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Community Workgroup meeting tomorrow @ 1600utc 15:08:25 @hbs:matrix.org: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1363 15:09:13 50 minutes to go 15:18:29 @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: FYI: I am not sure I will be able to participate in full capacity while traveling, but I will try. 15:18:55 Meeting in 49 mins https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1363 15:19:36 @user2570:unredacted.org: ever since kids got addicted to traveling they never wanna pause it to help out their mum 15:19:56 breh it did it ahain 15:20:18 damn traveling, it also make them violent 15:20:35 @syntheticbird: wut?🙂 15:20:40 element is so bad sometimes 15:20:49 @user2570:unredacted.org: replace traveling with online games 15:20:56 Message delay? 15:21:07 Yeah 15:21:29 I sent the message at 15:11 and it didnt send til 15:18 15:21:58 @hbs:matrix.org: And this message wasnt even visible to me when i sent it 15:22:05 idea: let's fucking hate matrix 15:23:24 Idea: use IRC instead 15:26:18 Can confirm: IRC still working without issue 15:31:10 @jpk68:matrix.org: I do 15:31:41 I play rock-paper-scissors when i decide which account to post from 15:31:50 Joking, but yes, I do as well :) 15:31:55 *use IRC 15:32:14 You don't like janken? 15:33:06 I just flip a coin instead 15:33:47 Id rather play janken against myself. Better odds 15:34:12 Bad entropy. Seems insecure to me 15:37:06 @jpk68:matrix.org: me when all the thoughts passing through my brain needs to be signed. I refuse to let rogue intruders play against myself 15:37:31 I sample 10 seconds of thermal noise from my CPU, get the sha256sum of the output file, check the parity of the hash represented in binary, and use IRC if it's even. Never let them know your next move 15:42:38 Does anyone know it's midnight over here? 15:43:00 I’m sleepwalking through this meeting. 15:43:41 When the sun comes up its almost time for bed 15:44:09 plowsof: yeah 15:44:29 I'm on holiday 15:47:39 You need to change your clocks to UTC > <@pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Does anyone know it's midnight over here? 15:48:56 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.org/ada4a778a05bd1e62d634b81906f54e73748a6bb2040456581472059392.png (image.png) 15:49:26 The bottom right clock is right 15:49:32 Is wrong*** 15:49:52 I think the point is that he has UTC clock 15:50:00 周六 15:48 15:50:07 UTC should be the only clock 15:50:14 he knows what UTC absolute based timezoneless approved timezone it is 15:50:22 All of my clock are in 0 timezone 15:50:37 exactly 15:50:42 utc supremacy 15:50:50 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I don’t just have meetings — I also need to use UTC+8. 15:50:57 My 3rd alt uses UTC 15:51:42 @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: I dont have any use for whatevwr timezone these grass touchers use 15:51:49 It’s fine, addition and subtraction are easy anyway. 15:52:04 THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY ADD SUB. 15:52:09 THE WORLD SHOULD RUN IN UTC 15:52:37 @syntheticbird: OK, BUT OUR SCHOOL USE UTC+8 15:53:31 @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: DESTROY YOUR SCHOOL THEN TELL THEM THEY COULD HAVE PREVENTED IT IF THEY USED UTC 15:55:08 5min to go 15:56:35 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.org/5925fa7f892ed755806b3c68168bc1480ac6c8632040458503763525632.png (image.png) 15:56:38 irc 15:57:27 Irc working fine here 15:59:23 I use a crappy AI to translate what you guys are saying. 16:00:03 Meeting time. Agenda: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1363 16:00:22 Hi 16:00:29 Hello 16:00:30 Hi 16:00:31 Hi 16:00:32 gmorning 16:00:35 Hello 16:01:14 agenda make no sense. first greetings then introduction 16:01:17 Hey 16:01:31 introduction of the meeting, then greetings 16:02:00 yeah mb i thought introduction was community news 16:02:01 it was just below 16:02:10 3. Community highlights -- anything anyone would like to share? 16:02:16 sech1 linked to people already submitting randomxv2 benchmarks https://xmrig.com/benchmark?algo=rx%2F2 16:02:27 I've launched a fully operational Monero repository mirror & backup service, with clearnet + Tor access, dual-node redundancy, auto-syncing all core repos. Access: https://repo.openenet.cn/monero-project and see more: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1362 16:02:35 Linked as in her shared the link lol 16:02:48 He* 16:03:17 Cake Wallet was at EthCC this week, while the focus was Ethereum, some conversations were about Monero too. Did quite a few demos of the EVM-XMR atomic swaps. 16:04:09 News: [Monero Observer](https://www.monero.observer/) - [Revuo Monero](https://revuo-xmr.com/) - [This week in Monero TWIM](https://cyphergoat.com/this-week-in-monero) <<- observer still on break, revuo and cyphergoat are active 16:04:38 anything else to share? Else we can move on to the CCS proposals 16:05:56 4. CCS proposals 16:06:04 a. Baltsar - [monero-mcp Maintenance, Guides, and Demos (2026 Q2)](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/652#note_35519) 16:06:26 Since the last meeting, Baltsar has closed the proposal 16:06:59 b. JackieXMR - [Set up a temporary news aggregation website](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/655) 16:07:11 One more key point I want to emphasize: Monero Observer has been offline for 4 full months now. For half a year, our community has been without a daily-updated, real-time news aggregation hub that covers core dev updates, CCS progress, community meetings, and critical security alerts. Weekly newsletters can never fill this gap [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/_bn7lfYKaTBfQXFw ] 16:07:21 I can deliver a fully functional demo version within 144 hours, and will provide consistent daily content updates for the community over the next 3 months. Should 3RA return to rebuild the original site, all of my code and content will be made fully open-source to serve as a reference for his site upgrade work. 16:07:47 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.org/11f4b7c75c690f0cda1f90f4e165e0e6328ce4342040461320356102144.png (屏幕截图 2026-03-23 233236.png) 16:07:47 The code and content needs to be fully open source the entire time, btw 16:07:59 Have you started this project already? 16:08:32 ofrnxmr: yeah, but not pull 16:08:45 I plan to submit everything in a single pull request once I finish the work(demo). 16:09:16 ofrnxmr: and https://github.com/PyXMR2025/monero-observer 16:09:33 I run hexo on https://monero-repo.openenet.cn 16:09:45 to build pages ci and vercel 16:10:10 How do you plan to keep up with the news like observer did? 16:11:09 ofrnxmr: but it's not merge.I will make the pull request as soon as possible. 16:12:06 does anyone have any comments? 16:12:37 The monero moon also does a good job of delivering news 16:13:02 @user2570:unredacted.org: But it’s not real-time. 16:13:11 @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: Ah yes 16:13:27 how do you plan to keep up to date? 16:13:56 We're spending a lot of time on this one, maybe people can comment on the proposal or would anyone present like to cast a vote now? 16:13:59 Update daily just like 3RA did. 16:14:09 I'm neutral on this proposal 16:14:56 no guarantee that it will last, but its dead cheap imo. why not 16:15:08 I'm also neutral. I think its easier said than done, otherwise every newsletter would be doing it already. unless its like, ai 16:15:13 This could also help 3RA refactor Monero Observer. 16:15:20 @syntheticbird: The rates were increased since last meeting 16:15:34 @ofrnxmr: Will it be AI? 16:15:57 I assume so 16:15:58 @ofrnxmr: No, I’ll work on it every night when I get back from school 16:16:00 @hbs:matrix.org: no 16:16:07 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/655#note_35289 16:16:08 someone hold the count for how much time AI is gonna pronounced in this meeting 16:16:35 "2. Removed discussions on the two content creation options (AIGC-generated content and manual writing)" 16:17:03 The ccs was clearly written (and modified) by an ai 16:17:07 ^ > <@pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I use a crappy AI to translate what you guys are saying. 16:17:14 Is it used for writing as well? Just asking 16:17:19 @jpk68:matrix.org: No 16:17:56 ofrnxmr: That's true. 16:17:57 ok lets move on for now. Come back at rhe end if there is time 16:18:10 c. mondetta - [monero.eco 2025-2026 compensation](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/660) 16:19:05 This ccs seeks retroactive funding for the monero.eco project 16:19:11 against 16:19:28 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.org/5c984b280f165cf52618e4f1b39299a8879f802c2040464268381388800.png (image.png) 16:19:29 too expensive, he got fun doing it, shared it on twitter. 16:19:41 Pls provide reason 16:20:09 @user2570:unredacted.org: I hate peoplek having fun 16:20:35 His website https://xcancel.com/schmidt1024 is 403 16:20:42 If too expensive pls provide suggestion 16:20:53 Thats the original creatoe, not the current maintainer @jackie 16:20:59 @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: nah you're just banned for some reason. it works for us 16:21:01 That's a Nitter instance 16:21:06 User2507 (mondetta) doesnt have twitter 16:21:19 2570* 16:21:25 @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: Schmidt is hoster and promoter 16:21:35 ofrnxmr: True 16:21:52 @user2570:unredacted.org: sorry, I think I used VPN 16:22:28 Sorry I am late, here to help answer I2P questions re: the CCS if necessary, otherwise I'll just watch 16:22:50 @user2570:unredacted.org: ok after thinking with my noodlebrain i don't have a better suggestion. consider my opinion worthless. I'm neutral 16:23:45 my personal take is that i dont like it. Not the website, i think its fine. I don't like the proposal 16:23:47 I am not favorable to retroactive CCS proposals 16:24:03 @hbs:matrix.org: same. reason why i am neutral 16:24:56 @hbs:matrix.org: Why in this case, I do not understand 16:25:16 i'm not saying that monero.eco shouldnt have some funding, but to request 15k for work done on a voluntary basis is s diffrrent story 16:25:30 Project is well documented and transparent enough 16:25:57 question of principle. I would be tempted to be for it because its you and you are nice. But the fact that people can launch themselves into project without wanting compensation and then seek for it because they hear its possible is disturbing to me. 16:25:59 I commented on the ccs that the (16?)logos designed with input from the respective project maintainers didnt seem accurate at all 16:26:02 We can recalculate and revisit another time 16:26:18 And if those projects wanted logos, why didnt they pay for them 16:26:22 @user2570:unredacted.org: In all cases, not just this one. Did not seek it for my own projects and I don't think anyone should. 16:26:23 I agree with @ct:xmr.mx here 16:26:29 @ofrnxmr: I have answered plese check 16:26:53 i saw your response and the majority of the ones listed werent responded to 16:27:11 maintainers for cli, gui, docs, onion explorer, monero block, etc 16:27:21 What about all other designes 16:27:22 In my opinion, the website is indeed helpful, but it's too expensive. 16:27:52 the pricing match the efforts, i have no doubt in that, but the total price against the final product doesn't match to me 16:28:19 @ofrnxmr: Yes this is true, however I have tracked zero negative feedback for the design 16:28:21 that would be discriminatory yet i'll say it, that's a rather simple website for 49 XMR 16:28:32 @user2570:unredacted.org: if you did a desogn for monerokon, and monerokon raised a 100xmr ccs, why are you asking for funds from the community and not from monerokon (who already commissions and pays for designs etc)? 16:30:01 I also agree with (don't remember who), but this would still bea hard sell if not retroactive AND a lower rate 16:30:54 Can we revisit this next week unfortunately I can't answer today unfortunately 16:31:12 im all for a revisit 16:31:18 Please skip this time 16:31:21 i mean i support a revisit instead of closing 16:31:53 Ok, we'll revisit in 2 weeks 16:31:55 d. rainbowsofhopeorg-oss - [Exploratory Research on Metadata-Private Network Participation Metrics](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/658) 16:32:13 Close 16:32:17 NACK 16:32:25 AI 16:32:33 PIECE OF SHIT 16:32:50 looks like monero space 16:33:05 Close 16:33:16 +1 16:33:35 e. redsh4de - [CCS Frontend Redesign & Backend Upgrade](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/641) 16:33:43 And 16:33:43 +1 16:33:46 f. SyntheticBird - [Site and CCS UI/UX, Transitions & Animations work (4 months)](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/644) 16:33:51 +1 16:33:59 e. f. +1 16:34:01 +1 to both 16:34:07 I spoke with luigi1111 and they will comment regarding the backend stuff 16:34:25 there was a website meeting a week ago that none of you's came to 💢 16:34:28 nice 16:35:09 yeah it was announced 5 minutes before the start, I don't understand how people weren't aware 16:35:33 Hopefully we can get the meeting logs uploaded, but a few design things were discussed, and rando later noted that deno might not be a good option. Diego ack'd a backend upgrade 16:35:46 Exactly this, lol 16:36:12 We (redsh4de isn't there but i can confirm) saw rando comment. 16:36:15 Still need signoff or commentary from core, since theyll be running and using it 16:36:23 We'll develop with node compatibility in mind 16:36:58 Moving on for now, seems positive sentiment 16:37:02 g. jpk68 - [I2P SAMv3 support](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/650) 16:37:58 +1 for both of them 16:37:59 I left a request on the proposal for the milestone 1 and 2 to be combined into a single milestone 16:38:00 +10000000000000 16:38:09 Which would mean that the first milestone includes a tangible deliverable 16:38:17 @sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org: Of the website proposals? 16:38:28 I believe this has a decent amount of support :) 16:38:37 (redsh4de and SyntheticBird) 16:39:15 And is clearly something that needs to get done generally 16:39:17 Sorry, my messages aren't sending :P 16:39:37 @ofrnxmr: I'm willing to adjust this if it's absolutely necessary. But I feel like I have already been very accomodating with adjustments 16:39:55 I haven't noticed how many times he's submitted proposals, but I thought he did a decent job assisting with Monfluo's I2P stuff? 16:40:10 @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: I didn't do anything related to I2P in Monfluo 16:40:16 Zero concessions for relatively new alts taking on tasks that can span more than their own lifespan, and require collaboration with the monero project repo , which resides on github currently 16:40:25 I do some stuff in Monfluo but not that 16:40:51 @jpk68:matrix.org: I forgot which library it was. 16:40:54 The whole point of not doing the bounty is to have milestones instead 16:41:07 At some point, if we keep reducing the milestones, it's effectively a bounty 16:41:44 <0xdosto:matrix.org> In between your meeting, to create CCS, you have to submit a PR, to create PR, you have to fork. But gitlab does not allow forking with this error message: 16:41:44 <0xdosto:matrix.org> Limit reached You cannot create projects in your personal namespace. Contact your GitLab administrator. 16:41:54 A contract to complete work, not a bounty 16:41:56 Also, is consistent activity for over 7 months really a 'new alt'? 16:42:17 The only adjustments i see are changing from monthly to deliverables and a rate change? 16:42:19 I have a decent amount of contributions to many related projects 16:42:42 I would appreciate if you did > <@jpk68:matrix.org> I'm willing to adjust this if it's absolutely necessary. But I feel like I have already been very accomodating with adjustments 16:43:00 @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: P2pool 16:43:07 I vaguely remember in the last meeting we discussed you using AI to write code. 16:43:10 @ofrnxmr: And more strictly defining certain milestones, and saying the bounty isn't a part of it, and already removing the final milestone 16:43:21 @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: No, we did not? 16:43:34 @0xdosto:matrix.org: Contact plowsof or remind after the meeting plz. We have a lot to get through 16:43:56 If I was an AI slopper I wouldn't ask as many stupid questions as I do currently 16:44:01 @jpk68:matrix.org: sorry, I foget 16:44:04