02:35:50 PSA: everyone needs to remove your offers IMMEDIATELY, there is a protocol exploit being actively used 02:36:06 From woodser, re haveni/retoswap 02:36:43 Is this related to Bisq? 02:37:00 retoswap/haveno 05:13:23 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Thank you. I hope you can fix it soon. Please update when all is ok. 07:01:27 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: whoa 07:02:43 whoa 19:17:57 <78g3r9uh:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/smhxtAsHfMoNmbmGQAVIvMjx.mp4 (IP_Address_Meme_Extended.mp4) 20:20:50 😔 ai will be finding bugs in bisq and people in monero are like it's a worthless random word generator 20:23:15 @kiersten5821:matrix.org: Prove us wrong 20:23:40 Take a LLM, discover multiple vulnerabilities in monerod 20:23:43 @syntheticbrid AI is not going anywhere... 20:23:45 make a write up about it 20:24:29 @syntheticbird: https://xcancel.com/bisq_network/status/2050917456512999579#m 20:24:49 let me know when you find a bug worth 12 btc 20:24:54 otherwise ai is smarter than you 20:24:59 Just because I break my sentence doesn't mean I consider bisq to be a proof 20:25:22 If you want people to reconsider do as i just said 20:25:47 @kiersten5821:matrix.org: very mature response 20:25:57 factually true as well 20:26:00 kiersten do you believe that AI is here to "stay"? 20:26:30 for some definition of stay, yes 20:26:52 @kiersten5821:matrix.org: whatever turning people against you is not gonna lead you closer to your goal. 20:27:03 yes, so don't you believe it's important to adapt it as early as possible, because it's inevitable that it will get to the point (Claude Mythos as an early example) of finding extremely critical vulnerabilities in software? 20:27:35 After all, as I like to say, nothing is impenetrable. Even something that's shut down, offline, disconnected, whatever you want to say. There is still some way to hack it. 20:29:07 @syntheticbird: whether or not a person helps themselves is not up to me, neither is the benefit mine 20:31:07 @kiersten5821:matrix.org: "I'm so much into progress and have the noble goal of bringing X into Y that I feel free to be hostile to people against X because they are simply not helping themselves accepting X" is an interesting character design. Bold of me to assume I could have a discussion with you. 20:31:16 ro1m: it already has 20:31:21 Everything’s hackable given enough resources, chill. 20:31:29 I do believe that AI hs some-what damaged the human's strong understand of subjects though. It is extremely hard these days to learn a new programming langauge without AI because the temptation. We've all had those problems in programming that are *really* hard to solve, but when you use AI to solve that problem, you don't gain the same 20:31:30 understanding as you would have if you solved it yourself. 20:31:53 @syntheticbird: I also like bringing X into Y. 20:32:02 It's a lot of fun 20:33:43 either ro1m is world champion in keytyping or he is a copy pasting alt account to serve someone else narrative. The former is surely more plausible than the latter. 20:34:00 What's the problem with my typing? 20:34:08 it's too fast 20:34:09 you must be a hacker 20:34:14 it must have been you! 20:34:44 I just have an abnormally fast WPM compared to the average human. 20:36:40 @syntheticbird also I don't push any narrative but my own, which isn't really a narrative at all, since that's technically what everyone does. 20:37:15 So in a way, I didn't do anything but burn a fraction of a calorie. 20:37:17 Do you really think that Anthropic, an AI corporation in kahoots with the DOD, is going to give Monero access to Mythos out of pure benevolence or something? 20:37:58 I would assume not, since they probably just want it for the big names for marketing and branding reasons. 20:38:17 Yes, one would think that would be the clear answer here 20:39:21 Scroll down to the "identifying vulnerabilities and exploits..." section of https://www.anthropic.com/glasswing 20:39:21 Look, they got a testimonial from Cisco, AWS, Microsoft, crowdstrike, Google, and more. It's 100% for marketing. 20:39:32 highly doubt that anyone involved in the bisq thing had mythos either 20:40:05 Closing thing that monero could get is probably https://chatgpt.com/cyber 20:40:06 Which I haven't personally tried, not sure how "remarkable" it is. 20:40:10 Closest* 20:40:26 And it's primarily based towards just individuals, not projects/companies/organizations. 20:42:23 "users must complete a government ID check" 20:42:24 Any takers? 20:42:31 this just stops "suspicious" requests from being refused > Closing thing that monero could get is probably https://chatgpt.com/cyber 20:42:32 Nope. 20:42:54 so you can use the usual tools that're publicly available for certain usually-forbidden topics 20:43:22 Oh, I thought this was a model.... I guess not... 20:43:35 somebody using their real life name, go sign up 20:43:42 That's hilarious, if you ask something that they detect as a cybersecurity "action" (whatever the hell that means), they block it unless you do this. 20:44:08 correct 20:44:26 I'm not so sure that anything from OpenAI can do anything meaningful in cybersecurity anyway, even without this "safe guard". 20:44:35 Someone must have been in a hurry to make this webpage. The "What do I need to verify?" section is duplicated 20:44:48 That's funny. 20:45:08 Now we know the webpage was created with AI. hilarious