00:19:17 <br-m> <bawdyanarchist:matrix.org> @hbs:matrix.org: There will be a proposal in the meeting on Saturday, to separate the custodian of the MoneroKon socials and infra, from the organizer of future MKs.
00:19:17 <br-m> <bawdyanarchist:matrix.org> You're one of the trusted and competent community members that was proposed to custody the resources (whether as primary or backup).
00:20:27 <br-m> <bawdyanarchist:matrix.org> We just wanted to ping you, if you're willing to fill that roll or not. It doesn't necessarily have to involve a significant amount of work, but at a minimum you would grant access to future MK organizers on the basis of community sentiment.
00:37:37 <br-m> <321bob321> Hbs we need a new fall guy
00:48:55 <geonic> hbs would be an excellent choice
00:54:00 <br-m> <stnby:kernal.eu> Why not dark macau or vegas?
00:54:50 <br-m> <siren:kernal.eu> They cannot promote gambling like that
02:48:17 <br-m> <bomb2222:matrix.org> I’ve been working as a senior full-stack engineer on freelance platforms like Upwork, and I’ve been able to generate solid income through international clients. One thing I’ve noticed, though, is that clients sometimes tend to offer higher rates to developers based in Canada or the US compared to other regions, even when [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/2dGX8pQLenlOSC1v ]
06:29:50 <br-m> <hbs:matrix.org> @bawdyanarchist:matrix.org: Thanks for the summary of what seems to be three days of drama! I am one of the custodians of MK funds, roles shouldn't be mixed I think.
07:12:13 <br-m> <pw:xmr.mx> @bomb2222:matrix.org: https://bounties.monero.social/
07:12:13 <br-m> <pw:xmr.mx> I think this is the correct bounties page.
07:12:58 <br-m> <pw:xmr.mx> I'll ask the bot @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx the the above link the correct source for Monero bounties
09:23:46 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> hi
09:25:46 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> status update: MoneroKon socials, domains, DNS/CDN and other accounts are being handed over to core
09:26:24 <br-m> <hashido:matrix.org> Hi, nice to hear that
09:27:44 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> MoneroKon started out as a Monero Community Project, and thought it would be best for all assets to be transferred to the Monero Project while the dispute over MoneroKon's future is being resolved
09:32:34 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/PNGgUzdPjNciGAZQgRaCOexV.png (image.png)
09:34:30 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/yGASlivhehXcfrUYSxDZXooV.png (image.png)
09:34:52 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/mAZHZjDGFbPVcUzpRzOVtNTi.png (image.png)
09:36:37 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> For MK6, OrangeFren’s LLC received over $100k in revenue and only donated 3 XMR (~$921) back to the 
09:36:52 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> MoneroKon Fund
09:40:18 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> MK6 was the first edition under a "for-profit" model with no community oversight or financial transparency
10:26:41 <br-m> <ct:xmr.mx> The CCS column should not be yes/no, but show the amount taken from the community, because it puts the profit/loss column in perspective > <@ajs_:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/PNGgUzdPjNciGAZQgRaCOexV.png (image.png)
10:29:34 <br-m> <@TheFuzzStone:matrix.org> And the funny thing is, if the people (whom you've known personally for many years) had voted for you and your LLC, nothing would have come of it. > <@ajs_:matrix.org> MoneroKon started out as a Monero Community Project, and thought it would be best for all assets to be transferred to the Monero Project while the dispute over MoneroKon's future is being resolved
10:29:34 <br-m> <@TheFuzzStone:matrix.org> I can only imagine how much that must have hurt your pride - that, in essence, your friends publicly showed their lack of trust by refraining from voting in your favor.
10:37:52 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @ct:xmr.mx: It also talks about volunteers, but doesnt say anything about how much $ those volunteers were pair or reimbursed/ such as the (iirc) over 20k to subsidize msvb merch, or the 6k from a sponsor for badges for mk3. "non-profit" for whom?
10:39:31 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> According the the math here, orangefren gross generated 115k. How much did the prior cons generate, gross?
10:54:50 <br-m> <orangefren:matrix.org> MK6 had a high revenue. I'm sure this doesn't surprise anyone who attended. Everything was more expensive, higher quality and we couldn't count on as many tickets as previous MKs because of short notice
10:54:50 <br-m> <orangefren:matrix.org> Venue went from outskirts of Prague -> heart of Warsaw
10:54:50 <br-m> <orangefren:matrix.org> Booths went from garden table covered with a cloth -> premium booths with a TV, lights, prints on all sides, assembly, disassembly...
10:54:50 <br-m> <orangefren:matrix.org> Refreshments went from a water cooler -> a team of people continuously providing coffee, tea, water, popcorn[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/oqWNgJULZDZIY0Q2 ]
10:57:25 <br-m> <remsee99:matrix.org> And there was a shooting side event too right
10:58:51 <br-m> <stnby:kernal.eu> @remsee99:matrix.org: For an extra side ticket
11:01:45 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> in the interest of having an adult conversation during the meeting, I am withdrawing my alternative offers from the table. @orangefren:matrix.org offer to host MoneroKon under a for-profi model will rise or fall on its own merits
11:05:14 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> if @orangefren:matrix.org  offer is rejected, I would suggest to make a public call for bids to manage MoneroKon so other offers can come in and you have more options to select from
11:06:03 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> similar to how Monero Research Lab contracts for audits from companies
11:06:32 <br-m> <ajs_:matrix.org> what do they offer? what is the benefit to the Monero Community?
12:17:10 <nioc> <ajs_:matrix.org> MoneroKon started out as a Monero Community Project, and thought it would be best for all assets to be transferred to the Monero Project while the dispute over MoneroKon's future is being resolved <<>> MoneroKonferenco started out as an initiative by MRL to have a technical conference for Monero.  What made it a Monero Community Project?
12:23:17 <nioc> does calling it a project created by the monero community equate it with the entity know as The Monero Project ?
12:24:44 <nioc> forgive me if not clear, I am having my first cup of tea rn
12:46:13 <nioc> bridge not working?
12:50:49 <plowsof> DataHoarder the bridge seems to have stopped
13:46:50 <baima> Hallo everyone
14:27:37 <DataHoarder> plowsof: is matrix up?
14:27:50 <DataHoarder> "Connectivity to the server has been lost. Sent messages will be stored until your connection has returned."
14:28:08 <plowsof> that'll do it
14:39:33 * nioc sets up his cans and string
14:53:07 <sech1> jpk68 looks like your Github account is back https://github.com/jpk68
18:25:23 <rbrunner> Please bring up monero.social as soon as possible. I want the MoneroKon drama to continue, top entertainment in the otherwise deep summer lulls
18:33:39 <nioc> I received my popcorn delivery last night 
18:33:52 <geonic> but is it nonprofit or for-profit popcorn
18:39:49 <nioc> it was bought with profits
18:40:29 <nioc> no idea about the popcorn itself since most marketing is BS
19:51:40 <geonic> true. what matters is that there’s popcorn