08:37:57 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> forwarding from basicswapdex room, they have "identified a security issue affecting BasicSwap swaps and a fix is on the way" ... "Withdraw all of your active offers, and don't post new ones." cc ofrnxmr https://matrix.to/#/!EibThndZDDXEHahsoJ:matrix.org/$EJXw6AfIWbO7Rtk--WR9-FELbrZBRdSkGh1sJ6OZj88?via=matrix.org&via=monero.social
09:39:43 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Thanks plowsof
09:40:19 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> Atomic swaps have fallen 🥶
09:40:59 <br-m> <hashido:matrix.org> Long life to atomic swaps
09:41:01 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> Monero itself is so going to get exploited, won't it
09:41:16 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> All software is insecure 🥲
09:42:39 <br-m> <hbs:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: some have
09:43:00 <br-m> <servers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Vulns are getting crazy this day and it's only gonna get worse with all the Ai pentesting out there. 
09:43:24 <br-m> <servers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Just had to reboot 60+ nodes for Januscape. 
09:46:24 <plowsof> just a humiliation ritual / community funded audit at this point and not surprising anymore 
09:46:42 <br-m> <loop.ster:matrix.org> @monerobull:matrix.org: Yes. Yes it is
09:46:46 <plowsof> we have zero details of bsx's issue though afaict 
09:48:19 <br-m> <loop.ster:matrix.org> @servers.guru:matrix.servers.guru: It'll end up making us more anti-fragile. Rough road short-medium term. Safer long-term
09:49:08 <br-m> <servers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> @loop.ster:matrix.org: Well. I hope so. But it depend how long the arm race will go on.
09:49:27 <br-m> <servers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> The medium term can last for a while. And do a lot of damage. 
09:50:44 <br-m> <loop.ster:matrix.org> I'm not denying that.
10:00:00 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof: Post mortem will follow release
10:57:24 <br-m> <321bob321> Probably someone pointing AI at it
11:02:35 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> could be, but opus and fable didnt find it and didnt agree that it was exploitable until i fed it plenty of context
11:09:20 <plowsof> ofrnxmr thanks
11:38:48 <br-m> <tempetassum:matrix.org> BSX just released an poster right before that too
11:40:46 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> yeah, the update hardened other, semi-unrelated paths
12:52:00 <br-m> <tempetassum:matrix.org> I see they just released the fix
13:08:58 <nioc> so ai is going to protect us from............ai
14:49:58 <br-m> <loop.ster:matrix.org> I mean, it's just a tool. The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, right?
14:56:30 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> need a bigger gun
15:01:30 <br-m> <loop.ster:matrix.org> True. This is why gatekeeping Mythos (or any frontline tools) is idiocy. Bad guys (incl the gvt) will get hold of the biggest guns by hook or crook. If you want to give the good guys a chance, they need access to the best tools asap. 
15:19:10 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> Even if the good guy have access to the tools, the bad guys have unlimited token budget
15:19:38 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> Then can affort to run it everytime someone press merge
15:48:21 <br-m> <loop.ster:matrix.org> We can run it before we merge. And there is assymetry. They have to spend tokens against every target. We only have to protect our own.
16:00:28 <nioc> <loop.ster:matrix.org> I mean, it's just a tool. The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, right? <<>> doesn't seem to be working in murica
16:03:08 <br-m> <bawdyanarchist:matrix.org> The best way to stop a lethal heat wave is with air conditioning (since that kills more people in Europe than guns in 'murika) :P
19:15:05 <nioc> DataHoarder: the issue with the bridge for the monerokon rooms was that there are 2 rooms, one on OFTC which I have been in forever and one on libera
19:15:49 <nioc> the OFTC bridge went down on July 11 and libera is currently bridged, I don't know it's history with a bridge 
19:34:16 <br-m> <321bob321> standard > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> could be, but opus and fable didnt find it and didnt agree that it was exploitable until i fed it plenty of context