13:54:58 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> I have set up a public GitHub repository to show my commitment to this project and provide a transparent development process:
13:54:58 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> https://github.com/FrancoisBVillon/monero-shopify-gateway
13:54:58 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> Regarding Speedingfile: I want to clarify that this is not spam or an advertisement. It is a fully functional, privacy-first file transfer service that I built. It demonstrates my ability to build production-grade web applications with a strong focus on security and privacy – which is directly relevant to this project.
13:54:58 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> [... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/osfMlaQLRDdxYkRt ]
13:55:52 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> tldr what is speedingfile and how is it related to shopifygateway
14:01:26 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> was thinking why isn't it https://github.com/monero ? but /monero-project
14:03:51 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> Regarding the budget concerns:
14:03:51 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> I understand that 120 XMR seems high compared to some other payment gateway proposals (e.g., Pago at 50 XMR, NoShore at 45 XMR, xmrSale at 85 XMR)[reference:0][reference:1][reference:2].
14:03:51 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> However, I want to put this into perspective by looking at the broader CCS landscape. The Monero community has approved significantly higher budgets for development work:[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/mKDtlaQLUUtHUGJs ]
14:08:46 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> Speedingfile is a privacy-first file transfer service I built (zero-knowledge encryption, Swiss servers, Icelandic jurisdiction).
14:08:46 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> It already accepts cryptocurrency payments – I am currently implementing PayRam, a self-hosted, multi-chain crypto payment gateway that supports BTC, ETH, USDT, USDC, and TRX across Bitcoin, Ethereum, Base, Polygon, and Tron[reference:0]. PayRam is fully self-hosted with no middleman, no chargebacks, and complete control over funds[reference:1].
14:08:46 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> The reason I mentioned Speedingfile in the proposal is to show documented, real-world demand for Monero payments. By building a Shopify plugin, I am solving a problem I personally understand and have a direct use case for.
14:09:39 <nioc> You can't compare development work to build monero with work on a payment processor 
14:10:16 <br-m> <redsh4de:matrix.org> +1
14:10:38 <br-m> <redsh4de:matrix.org> The work you are comparing against requires specific domain knowledge that not just everyone has
14:11:27 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> nioc: You're right – core Monero development is certainly more complex than a payment processor plugin. My intention wasn't to compare technical difficulty, but to show that 120 XMR is within the range of what the CCS has funded for similar scopes of work (3 months of part-time to full-time development).
14:11:27 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> I'm not asking for core developer rates – I'm asking for a fair compensation for ~420 hours of work, including full Node.js backend, React admin UI, webhook integration, documentation, and a security review. If the community feels this is still too high, I'm open to adjusting the budget.
14:11:27 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> Happy to discuss further.
14:12:13 <br-m> <redsh4de:matrix.org> Can we have a rule against pasting AI output when responding to people
14:13:26 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> I write my own responses. If they sound structured, it's because I try to be clear and professional. Happy to have a real conversation here – just ask me anything directly. ok ?
14:14:56 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> it's funny because you're pasting the exact replies AI gives you lol
14:14:57 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> no human would say this:
14:14:57 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> > However, I want to put this into perspective by looking at the broader CCS landscape. The Monero community has approved significantly higher budgets for development work:
14:14:57 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> [... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/0-WVlqQLU2h0dWdY ]
14:15:46 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> the people you compared to are literally monero maintainers who have been working on monero for years
14:16:06 <nioc> Yes, the CCS is for people that have already proved their worth
14:17:41 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> the last msg he sent sounds exactly what siri would say lmao
14:18:13 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> I came here with a serious proposal, a working reference project (Speedingfile), and a clear plan. I expected fair discussion, not ridicule.
14:18:13 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> My GitHub account is new because I separated this work from my other projects. That doesn't make the proposal less real.
14:18:13 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> If the community is not interested in a Shopify plugin, just say it directly. But don't mock someone for making an effort.[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/vPShlqQLTkpvRHBI ]
14:18:19 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @banhammer:matrix.org:
14:19:02 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> unless you dont speak english, kindly fuck off. youre not even answering the questions, youre asking a clanker to respond on your behalf
14:19:28 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> nioc: like, nioc, "you" is wrong. he didnt compare anythign
14:19:44 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Bruh
14:19:47 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @redsh4de:matrix.org: same here. "you" = duck.ai 
14:20:28 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ok, sorry
14:21:25 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> can you tell me what skills you have? im interested in how you plan on completing, speak like a pirate, this proposal in onlly 13 weeks
14:24:17 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> I came here with a serious proposal, a working product, and a clear vision. Instead of fair discussion, I got mockery, hostility, and a Stasi-style inquisition.
14:24:17 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> That's fine. I don't need the CCS to build this plugin. I will finance it myself and recoup the investment through the plugin itself.
14:24:17 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> A Shopify plugin for Monero will be built – just not through this process. This is not the community I expected. You are destroying, not building.[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/_4u4lqQLbUJPbkJa ]
14:25:26 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> is this the moment where you leave?
14:26:45 <nioc> A CCS for a for profit project, hmmm
14:29:36 <br-m> <wvrld:matrix.org> @2209lasvegas:matrix.org: good for you dude! the only cost for this “project” will be only ai tokens, right ?
14:29:57 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: asking AI how do I leave this room, I can't find the button for it
14:33:48 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> Honi soit qui mal y pense.
14:42:48 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> a plus tard
14:45:11 <br-m> <wvrld:matrix.org> @2209lasvegas:matrix.org: holy just stop crying already please
14:46:12 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> You should ask somebody to translate.hahah
14:47:00 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> Im French and can't understand what u said
14:47:45 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> Hahahaha
14:48:44 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> "On y soit qui mal y pense"?
14:48:57 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> "a plus tard" is obvious
14:49:20 <br-m> <wvrld:matrix.org> go ask some venture capital to fund your little project, or go take a loan if you believe it so much
14:49:46 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> It means "i cant see my penis" i think
14:51:09 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Disclaimer: i am only trained on broken English
14:51:19 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Yeah that might be it
14:52:05 <br-m> <wvrld:matrix.org> yeah thats what my translator said
14:52:17 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> hahahaha
15:02:44 <DataHoarder[m]> there was never a speedingfile link even
15:02:49 <DataHoarder[m]> so much clanker hallucinations :D
15:03:18 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> https://speedingfile.com    Hahahaha
15:04:00 <DataHoarder[m]> now I know not to use, thanks. probably this clanker output can go onto #monero-offtopic:monero.social as it wasn't even a proposal repository
15:04:02 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> what clown show ...
15:04:16 <DataHoarder[m]> 🤡 > <@2209lasvegas:matrix.org> what clown show ...
15:04:30 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> is this a comedy chat ?
15:08:02 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Filipino? > <@2209lasvegas:matrix.org> Honi soit qui mal y pense.
15:08:09 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> you come from Manila, cher ami ? hahaha 
15:08:39 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> I must go to another circus show. So long. It will be very hard to be more amused ....
15:09:01 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> You're the clown here buddy
15:09:25 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Circus go to a WhatsApp group
15:09:44 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> hahaha said the clown as the king lost his crown hahaha Buddy
15:11:29 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Can someone ban this guy?
15:11:51 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> hahaha 
15:12:34 <br-m> <2209lasvegas:matrix.org> i made already protocols This will a big show 
15:34:43 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Ty
16:15:52 <br-m> <clausewitz4.0:matrix.org> Instead of implementing a new self-hosted payment server? Have you thought of contributing to brcpayserver? > <@2209lasvegas:matrix.org> Speedingfile is a privacy-first file transfer service I built (zero-knowledge encryption, Swiss servers, Icelandic jurisdiction).
16:15:52 <br-m> <clausewitz4.0:matrix.org> https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver
16:15:52 <br-m> <clausewitz4.0:matrix.org> It already have a good user base
16:34:12 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> https://github.com/btcpay-monero/btcpayserver-monero-plugin
16:38:58 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Or https://xmrpay.shop if you don't want to deal with monero-rpc
16:39:21 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Setup, view key + wallet address and a node, you're good to go
17:22:46 <nioc> Ask not what monero can do for you, ask, what can I do for monero?
18:04:05 <br-m> <r4v3r23> nioc: right, so merge ANONERO